Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I am resending my reply to Ken, as I received a warning from the server that my message was too long. For the whales and the surfers I rely mostly on my K-5 II S and the 70-300 zoom. I would use the GoPro more for filming the sail to and from the harbor and the views of the mountains and other

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-05 Thread Ken Waller
Dan I think you'll be out of range with the Go Pro if unless your going to be up close and personal with the whales and surfers. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Go Pro

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 3/1/15, Zos Xavius, discombobulated, unleashed: You should just shoot progressive (30p or 60p) unless you really know what you are doing as converting 1080 60i to 30p can be kind of a pain in the rear. People shoot interlaced by choice still because they can render it out at 60p with a slight

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I may not be doing as much ocean canoeing as I had planned: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en-GBshva=1#inbox/14ab39e0e7135517 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: On 4 Jan 2015, at 05:11, David

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-04 Thread Paul
Hmmm. That link only takes me to my gmail inbox... -p On 1/4/2015 9:05 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I may not be doing as much ocean canoeing as I had planned: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en-GBshva=1#inbox/14ab39e0e7135517 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/1/15, Paul, discombobulated, unleashed: Hmmm. That link only takes me to my gmail inbox... Nope, you're definitely wrong Paul. It takes me to *my* gmail inbox. ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-04 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 4 Jan 2015, at 05:11, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I have given thought to making a film about training and racing but it'd be well beyond my skill and budget to produce to my satisfaction. All you need to make a good film is a girl and a gun --- Jean-Luc Godard --

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Sorry for the brain fart. Here is the story: Storm Damages Canoes and Beach at Kihei Canoe Club Last night’s storm wrecked havoc at Ka Lae Pohaku Beach, home of Kihei Canoe Club. The heavy rain and winds combined with unexpectedly high surf and a high tide to cause extensive damage at the club

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-04 Thread P.J. Alling
No, it want's me to sign into my G mail inbox... On 1/4/2015 11:10 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 4/1/15, Paul, discombobulated, unleashed: Hmmm. That link only takes me to my gmail inbox... Nope, you're definitely wrong Paul. It takes me to *my* gmail inbox. ;-) -- I don't want to

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for you comments, David. There undoubtedly are annoying videos out there done with the GoPro, but probably no more than are made with any other camera or video camera. You said you don't know what you would like to achieve with it. The best GoPro videos I have seen are ones that capture

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 3/1/15, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed: Knowing nothing about Gopro cameras, this is also interesting to me. Only because I see so much footage that annoys me because of a fisheye effect. Do the narrower views eliminate the distortion or just reduce it? Yes the narrower fields of

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-03 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 3 Jan 2015, at 21:28, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 3/1/15, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: Not quite correct when talking to a US-based list member. In the US, there are two different formats used for broadcast HD TV; 720p (1280 x 720 progressive), and 1080i

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 3/1/15, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: Not quite correct when talking to a US-based list member. In the US, there are two different formats used for broadcast HD TV; 720p (1280 x 720 progressive), and 1080i (1920 x 1080 interlaced). (IIRC CBS broadcasts in 1080i, while ABC NBC

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-03 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 04:12:00PM +, Steve Cottrell wrote: In broadcast TV all material is shot in interlaced (hence 1080i) and broadcast interlaced. . . Not quite correct when talking to a US-based list member. In the US, there are two different formats used for broadcast HD TV; 720p

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 3/1/15, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed: That's interesting but it makes me wonder why we'd ever shoot interlaced if all the end use nowadays is progressive. If you're not filming for broadcast, you don't need to! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlaced_video I think it will

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-03 Thread Bill
On 03/01/2015 3:14 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 3/1/15, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed: Knowing nothing about Gopro cameras, this is also interesting to me. Only because I see so much footage that annoys me because of a fisheye effect. Do the narrower views eliminate the distortion or

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-03 Thread Zos Xavius
You should just shoot progressive (30p or 60p) unless you really know what you are doing as converting 1080 60i to 30p can be kind of a pain in the rear. People shoot interlaced by choice still because they can render it out at 60p with a slight loss in vertical resolution. A lot of cameras (video

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-03 Thread David Mann
On Jan 4, 2015, at 1:51 am, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: You said you don't know what you would like to achieve with it. The best GoPro videos I have seen are ones that capture an experience, for example sky diving, dirt bike racing or ski jumping. I dare not look for

OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have acquired a used Go Pro Hero 3. I intend to use it for certain parts of my winter trip to Maui, such a Kayaking and Outrigger Canoe trips and drive up the mountain. I thought it might also be useful this spring, when we are venturing off to Japan, with a brief stop in China. Does or has

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/1/15, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera? Is so, what have you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it? Any tips about how to use and operate it to advantage would be appreciated. Now there's a thing. Hints and

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Steve Cottrell Fri, 02 Jan 2015 08:15:22 -0800 On 2/1/15, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: 24p will produce 24 separate images in one second of video. 24i will produce 24 frames of 2-fields each = 48 separate images in one second of video. The 24p will be a bit more 'jittery'

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I think this short write-up covers the different frame rates+scan type combination in a practically reasonable fashion: http://www.steves-digicams.com/knowledge-center/video-frame-rates-24p-25p-30p-60i.html Thanks for the

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Ever the lawyer Dan! You caught me, Chris! I'm also a terrible typist! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Bill
On 02/01/2015 7:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera? Is so, what have you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it? Can't you lawyers ever think of anything else? bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/1/15, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: 24p will produce 24 separate images in one second of video. 24i will produce 24 frames of 2-fields each = 48 separate images in one second of video. The 24p will be a bit more 'jittery' giving a film-like look. 24i will be a smoother 'video'

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Jack Davis
Good'n, Chris! Jack - Original Message - From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 7:41:45 AM Subject: Re: OT: Go Pro Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera? Is so, what have you sued

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera? Is so, what have you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it? Ever the lawyer Dan! Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread J C OConnell
not quite, there is analog video which was/is NTSC and there is digital video which is ATSC which can be one of many formats either interlaced or progressive at various resolutions and frame rates. jco On 1/2/2015 11:12 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 2/1/15, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated,

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread David Mann
On Jan 3, 2015, at 5:12 am, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: In broadcast TV all material is shot in interlaced (hence 1080i) and broadcast interlaced. Cathode ray tube TVs display interlaced images. All LCD and LED and Plasma TVs display progressive images - they convert on the fly

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thank you, Steve. That is most helpful. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 2/1/15, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera? Is

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread John
On 1/2/2015 8:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera? Is so, what have you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it? Alimony! -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/1/15, Igor PDML-StR, discombobulated, unleashed: I think this short write-up covers the different frame rates+scan type combination in a practically reasonable fashion: http://www.steves-digicams.com/knowledge-center/video-frame- rates-24p-25p-30p-60i.html Yep, good explainer

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/1/15, J C OConnell, discombobulated, unleashed: not quite, there is analog video which was/is NTSC and there is digital video which is ATSC which can be one of many formats either interlaced or progressive at various resolutions and frame rates. The GoPro does not support ATSC, so moot

Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
Incidentally, as far as accessories go, the GoPro branded bits are pretty good, but one thing I wouldn't recommend is their suction cup mount. Instead, I have several of the Delkin mounts and they are absolutely bullet-proof: http://tinyurl.com/q8ol75b (links to amazon page) cheers -- PDML