From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/09 Wed PM 05:03:22 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: One lens only...
David J Brooks wrote:
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:11 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All right pull over, this is the lens police
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/09 Wed PM 09:16:16 GMT
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: One lens only...
Now let's have someone use it in a quotation worthy of a PDML/NCCF
t-shirt and I'll make it available in the store...
The Lens
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:34
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: One lens only...
Dave,
I didn't find the 31mm limited was a bad lens for the South Island.
There are so many opportunities...
Here are some samples from a trip in the fall of '06.
http://picasaweb.google.com
From: Jos from Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Missing an opportunity is much
worse for me than not having the best optical quality
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/09 Wed AM 12:47:25 GMT
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Subject: Re: One lens only...
Steve Desjardins wrote:
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens
only rule here. I don't know how many
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:47:25 -0400, Mark Roberts wrote
Steve Desjardins wrote:
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens
only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar
question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a situation
I like interiors so I've tried walking around with a 8mm Peleng. It's
unlikely that I'll ever be allowed ro stand where I like in the Blue
Mosque in Istanbul again. ( I was with a party of police officers )
More practically the 12-24mm Sigma is good in churches too.
The essential accessory is
From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/08 Tue PM 07:55:40 GMT
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Subject: Re: One lens only...
Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:25:24 +0200 schreef Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 8/4/08, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed:
My wife
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 8, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Bob W wrote:
The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude.
Bob W wrote:
It's not actually my opinion, it's just a cynical attempt to get on
the quotes list before the snow melts.
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From: John Whittingham
Subject: Re: One lens only...
Now let's have someone use it in a quotation worthy of a PDML/NCCF
t-shirt and I'll make it available in the store...
The Lens Police
Is this your lens sir?
The Lens Police dismisseth us.
William
On 9/4/08, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed:
The Lens Police
Is this your lens sir?
Put your exposures where I can see them.
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The Lens Police dismisseth us.
This is the Lens Police, you're under-exposed.
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Subject: Re: One lens only...
Steve Desjardins wrote:
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens
only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar
question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a situation
where
I wonder what the former soloist of lens the police would have to say? ;)
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/4/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
The Lens Police dismisseth us.
This is the Lens Police, you're under-exposed.
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Cheers,
Ooh, Good one.
But you missed the triple entender.
This is the Lens Police, you're under developed...
Cotty wrote:
On 9/4/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
The Lens Police dismisseth us.
This is the Lens Police, you're under-exposed.
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David J Brooks wrote:
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:11 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All right pull over, this is the lens police...
All right buddy. Stop down and pull over.
Do you know how fast that lens is?
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Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:05:59 +0200 schreef Jos from Holland
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One lens only? I would take the widest I have: the 18-55 kitlens, I can
always crop later but never expend! Missing an opportunity is much
worse for me than not having the best optical quality
Greetz, Jos
The lens police always PRIMEd and on the lookout to EXPOSE FAST lenses
ZOOMING by
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: One lens only... (Lens police)
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date
Now let's have someone use it in a quotation worthy of a PDML/NCCF
t-shirt and I'll make it available in the store...
The Lens Police
Is this your lens sir?
Now then, sir. Let's just see how wide your aperture can go, shall
we?
(sound of latex...)
Bob
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Hi guys,
My wife and I are off to the south island of NZ in September for a couple of
weeks. I want to travel light, and am considering taking just one - prime -
lens for my ist-DL. Trouble is, I'm not entirely sure what focal length to
take. I'm currently drawn to something around 24mm, due
Pete, don't hamstring yourself. In that type of landscape no matter
what you take, it won't be wide enough.
On digital 16mm would be my minimum starting point.
Last year on my Canada GFM trip I took my 31mm, 50mm, 77mm, 16-45mm
f 1.7x AF Adapter). As much as I've bad mouthed it in the past,
- I've been on many a photo expedition with nothing but a normal lens
and gotten great results. On the Pentax DSLRs that would be 35mm, so
40mm is in the ballpark.
- However, it's a trade off between that and the 21mm. So my choice
would be to take the 21mm and the 40mm or 43mm. Both lenses
I guess it depends a lot on what you want to photograph.
I agree with Dave - if landscape is what you're after, 21 and 24 mm are
both a bit limiting. If you don't want to take a zoom, then I'd be
looking at the 14 mm DA - I haven't used it but a few people on the list
love it - wish I could
Hate to be a deviant but...
If size was an issue, then I'd take my FA 20-35mm f4 zoom lens. This by
far has been my most used lens over the past 12 months (probably an 3-to-1
ratio with all others combined). At the end of the day, philisophical
debates aside, the quality of this lens is
Jerome wrote:
Hate to be a deviant but...
If size was an issue, then I'd take my FA 20-35mm f4 zoom lens.
I'd probably go with a prime, but it would, coincidentally, most likely
be an FA series lens: Either the FA 20/2.8 or the FA 28/2.8AL.
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On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Peter McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
My wife and I are off to the south island of NZ in September for a couple of
weeks. I want to travel light, and am considering taking just one - prime -
lens for my ist-DL. Trouble is, I'm not entirely sure
31mm limited because the lens is as good as the countryside. Regards, Bob S.
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Peter McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
My wife and I are off to the south island of NZ in September for a couple of
weeks. I want to travel light, and am considering
But you're not a singular deviant . . . ;-)
I have actually used the FA20-35 as my only lens. Had the 40 as well,
but never used it. This lens just works well, all prime/zoom issues
aside. I keep thinking of getting the DA 21, but the FA20-35 is so
light (and not much slower) that I'm not sure
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
31mm limited because the lens is as good as the countryside. Regards, Bob S.
Hey, Bob,
That would be about the perfect focal length (in terms of what I was
talking about in my last post) if I had only one lens to live with
On 8/4/08, Peter McIntosh, discombobulated, unleashed:
My wife and I are off to the south island of NZ in September for a couple of
weeks. I want to travel light, and am considering taking just one - prime -
lens for my ist-DL. Trouble is, I'm not entirely sure what focal length to
take. I'm
I felt the same way with the FA20-35 ... until I had the DA21. Then my
use of the zoom pretty much stopped as I found the prime to be that
significant increment more capable a performer. A 20-35 plus a 70 is a
remarkably complete kit for a tremendous amount of work.
Godfrey
On Apr 8, 2008,
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:57:54 +1000
Peter McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
S... What focal length would you take? And why?
I tend to use my 28 mm as my walking around lens as the FoV is a good
normal.
my second choice is usually 55mm for the short tele FoV
it occurs to me that my K10d has
The FA20-35/4 is good enough to be considered four prime lenses in
one, IMO. Very handy, and still quite reasonable in size/weight. :-)
Biggest reason to select any of the primes in this range is to get a
little more speed for low light (and its not much more in the case of
the DA21/3.2
Peter McIntosh wrote:
Hi guys,
My wife and I are off to the south island of NZ in September for a couple of
weeks. I want to travel light, and am considering taking just one - prime -
lens for my ist-DL. Trouble is, I'm not entirely sure what focal length to
take. I'm currently drawn to
If I'm doing the one lens thing, the one I use most often is the
FA35/2AL. I've shot whole trips with that lens and been quite happy.
Peter McIntosh wrote:
Hi guys,
My wife and I are off to the south island of NZ in September for a couple of
weeks. I want to travel light, and am
If I'm taking one lens, I definitely want the flexibility of a zoom with fairly
wide range. I would probably take a DA 16-45 or DA* 16-50.
Paul
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From: Bran Everseeking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:57:54 +1000
Peter McIntosh
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:57 AM, Peter McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My wife and I are off to the south island of NZ in September for a couple of
weeks. I want to travel light, and am considering taking just one - prime -
lens for my ist-DL. Trouble is, I'm not entirely sure what focal
the FA*31mm
On 4/8/08, Peter McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
My wife and I are off to the south island of NZ in September for a couple of
weeks. I want to travel light, and am considering taking just one - prime -
lens for my ist-DL. Trouble is, I'm not entirely sure what
Peter, I think that Godfrey's suggestion is the wisest one. With (DA 40
or FA 43) and DA 21 you will not break the travel light requirement
yet you will get excellent quality. My trip to UK three years ago was
with FA 43, FA 77 (also rather small and light) and Sigma 18/3.5 (chunky
a-la Tokina
Well, I would take my 17~70 Sigma that I just purchased. It has proven
to be very good quality and actually focuses a bit faster that the
Pentax kit lens I had.
I will be a little disappointed however if the yet to arrive Pentax
17~70 turns out to be a better lens :-)
Walt
On 4/8/08, Peter
I definitely have some lens purchase coming. As always, I start
thinking about zooms and end up buying primes. I'm definitively getting
the DA 70 as it fills a gap in my lens lineup. I've decided to blow off
the FA 31 or FA 35 and just wait for whatever nice DA*30 eventually
emerges. I have
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Subject: One lens only...
Hi guys,
My wife and I are off to the south island of NZ in September
for a couple of
weeks. I want to travel light, and am considering taking
On Apr 8, 2008, at 13:59, Lucas Rijnders wrote:
Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:57:54 +0200 schreef Peter McIntosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
S... What focal length would you take? And why?
My wife puts me on a strict two-lens budget for holidays, so I know
your
problem.
Man, if I was required to
frank theriault wrote:
One of my favourite trips, to NYC several summers ago, I had rather
severe restrictions of what I could travel with (a bike in a hardshell
case kind of used up much of my allowance). I ended up taking my
Leica CL with a 40mm.
Funny, but I never found it limiting at
Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:57:54 +0200 schreef Peter McIntosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
S... What focal length would you take? And why?
My wife puts me on a strict two-lens budget for holidays, so I know your
problem.
On digital I would doubt endlessly between the K24/2,8 (because it's my
Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:10:04 +0200 schreef Charles Robinson
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On Apr 8, 2008, at 13:59, Lucas Rijnders wrote:
Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:57:54 +0200 schreef Peter McIntosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
S... What focal length would you take? And why?
My wife puts me on a strict
Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:25:24 +0200 schreef Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 8/4/08, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed:
My wife puts me on a strict two-lens budget for holidays
Mark!
Ehm, I would prefer not to have this in the quotes list, if you don't
mind...
Besides, it's not a bad
Lucas Rijnders wrote:
Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:25:24 +0200 schreef Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 8/4/08, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed:
My wife puts me on a strict two-lens budget for holidays
Mark!
Ehm, I would prefer not to have this in the quotes list, if you don't
mind...
On Apr 8, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
But seriously - trip of a lifetime to some place you may never go
again? Why limit yourself so strictly? Bring a few lenses and have
fun with it - or maybe just leave the camera at home???
I went to Salamanca, Spain in 1999 on a business
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens
only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar
question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a situation
where the lens police won't let me have another lens or two or at
least a zoom to cover
On 8/4/08, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed:
My wife puts me on a strict two-lens budget for holidays
Mark!
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What ever you wind up taking, take a convertor some closeup diaopter screw
in lenses for maximum flexibility.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Peter McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: One lens only...
Hi guys,
My wife and I are off
Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:00:13 +0200 schreef Godfrey DiGiorgi
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sometimes, limitations and a lack of equipment choices to distract us
begets more creativity and better photographs. I still often carry
just one prime lens when I'm out shooting.
Agreed. I even find that if I do
Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:00:54 +0200 schreef Scott Loveless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Lucas Rijnders wrote:
Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:25:24 +0200 schreef Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 8/4/08, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed:
My wife puts me on a strict two-lens budget for holidays
Mark!
To Serve and Diffract.
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/8/2008 4:27 PM
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens
only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar
question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a situation
where the lens
One lens only? I would take the widest I have: the 18-55 kitlens, I can
always crop later but never expend! Missing an opportunity is much
worse for me than not having the best optical quality
Greetz, Jos
Steve Desjardins wrote:
To Serve and Diffract.
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/8
Bob W wrote:
The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude.
I disagree.
But only because I *like* moral turpitude.
;-)
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The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude.
Bob
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Sent: 08 April 2008 21:28
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Subject: Re: One lens only...
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going
What Godders says is valid. On a couple of short business trips to
Paris and Madrid I took only a Leica iiif RD and a 50mm Summicron.
The resulting photos ended up in a gallery, and I've sold quite a few
of them. It was fun. But on a vacation, I'd still opt for a DSLR and
a zoom. Or two
On 8/4/08, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed:
Ehm, I would prefer not to have this in the quotes list, if you don't
mind...
Publish and be damned!
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The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude.
Mark.
(But then you knew that anyway)
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On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 22:40:15 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude.
Bob
...and you see a problem with that??
:-)
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia
Of Bruce Dayton
Sent: 08 April 2008 21:28
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Subject: Re: One lens only...
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one
lens
only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar
question - I can't answer it because I can't come up
:15PM +0100, Bob W wrote:
The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude.
Bob
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Sent: 08 April 2008 21:28
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Subject: Re: One lens only...
Makes you wonder
I don't believe in the fold. Let's stick with moral turpitude. ]'-)
Godfrey
On Apr 8, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I shunned zooms for thirty years or so, but they've come of age and
are to be welcomed into the fold.
The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude.
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From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: One lens only...
Bob W wrote:
The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude.
I disagree.
But only because I *like* moral turpitude.
;-)
You are not so much disagreeing as saying that you reek.
William Robb
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only...
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one
lens
only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar
question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a
situation
where the lens police won't let me have another lens or two
Take several lenses and leave behind a pair of shoes
if you don't have space!
Rick
--- Peter McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
My wife and I are off to the south island of NZ in
September for a couple of
weeks. I want to travel light, and am considering
taking just one - prime
lens only...
I shunned zooms for thirty years or so, but they've come of age and
are to be welcomed into the fold.
Paul
On Apr 8, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Bob W wrote:
The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude.
Bob
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On my 3 week trip this summer, I hauled everything. My wife ended up using
my *ist D with the 16-45, and I used my K 10D with the 70mm limited almost
exclusively. I did put a f 100-300 on for a couple of wildlife shots, but
other than that, we would just trade lenses. I felt I learned a lot by
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted
Beilby
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 7:12 PM
To: Pentax Mail List
Subject: Re: One lens only...
On my 3 week trip this summer, I hauled everything. My wife ended up using
my *ist D with the 16-45, and I used my K 10D
Subject: Re: One lens only...
If I'm taking one lens, I definitely want the flexibility of a zoom with
fairly wide range. I would probably take a DA 16-45 or DA* 16-50.
Paul
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From: Bran Everseeking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:57
On Apr 8, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Bob W wrote:
The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude.
Bob W wrote:
It's not actually my opinion, it's just a cynical attempt to get on
the quotes list before the snow melts.
Mission accomplished.
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Steve Desjardins wrote:
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens
only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar
question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a situation
where the lens police won't let me have another lens or two
IF YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE LENS, ITS GOT TO BE NORMAL, (28MM ON DSLR)
EVERYTHING ELSE IS LESS CALLED FOR.
JCO
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On Apr 8, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Steve Desjardins wrote:
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens
only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar
question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a situation
where
Steve Desjardins wrote:
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens
only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar
question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a situation
where the lens police won't let me have another lens or two
At 08:54 AM 9/04/2008, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
IF YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE LENS, ITS GOT TO BE NORMAL, (28MM ON DSLR)
EVERYTHING ELSE IS LESS CALLED FOR.
JCO
While I tend to agree with the underlying sentiment, that kind of
generalisation doesn't take into account what you may be shooting on
a NZ
: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:00 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: RE: One lens only...
At 08:54 AM 9/04/2008, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
IF YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE LENS, ITS GOT TO BE NORMAL, (28MM ON DSLR)
EVERYTHING ELSE IS LESS CALLED FOR. JCO
While I tend to agree with the underlying
Dave,
I didn't find the 31mm limited was a bad lens for the South Island.
There are so many opportunities...
Here are some samples from a trip in the fall of '06.
http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Sabbatical
http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/NewZealand02
I used the 31mm limited
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Subject: Re: One lens only...
Steve Desjardins wrote:
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens
only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar
question - I can't answer
- for those
who don't get it.)
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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Subject: Re: One lens only...
Steve Desjardins wrote:
Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens
only rule
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