Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-22 Thread Miserere
On 21 March 2012 22:57, P. J. Alling wrote: > On 3/21/2012 10:02 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: >> >> On 22/03/2012, at 6:27 AM, Miserere wrote: >>> >>> Paul, >>> >>> The problem I see with your sales pitch is that is fails to account >>> for those users who are growing *into* mirrorless, not *out* of it..

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-22 Thread P. J. Alling
One could hope. On the other hand I think that maybe they hired an outside consultant to put lipstick on this pig. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EO9piAKCkcU/TO25dQE6NSI/GdA/Nzro6wDF7S8/s400/prototype.jpg Which looks like a 1980's portable radio in design aesthetic. On 3/22/2012 9:43 AM,

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think (hope) that the K-01 is really a prototype and that a more refined, smaller, etc. K-02 will follow. The K20 was the K10 fixed, as was the K5 to the K7. On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:57 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > On 3/21/2012 10:02 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: >> >> On 22/03/2012, at 6:27 AM, Misere

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-21 Thread P. J. Alling
On 3/21/2012 10:02 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: On 22/03/2012, at 6:27 AM, Miserere wrote: Paul, The problem I see with your sales pitch is that is fails to account for those users who are growing *into* mirrorless, not *out* of it. That's just the point - this isn't a camera aimed at that segmen

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-21 Thread Paul Ewins
On 22/03/2012, at 6:27 AM, Miserere wrote: > Paul, > > The problem I see with your sales pitch is that is fails to account > for those users who are growing *into* mirrorless, not *out* of it. That's just the point - this isn't a camera aimed at that segment of the market. Pentax now has tw

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-21 Thread Miserere
On 19 March 2012 23:54, Paul Ewins wrote: > > On 20/03/2012, at 1:51 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that this /is/ a mirrorless camera targeted at the Pentax >> faithful.  Really if you were looking for an EVIL camera stepping up from a >> P&S and didn't have an investment in K mou

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-20 Thread steve harley
on 2012-03-19 23:16 Brian Walters wrote The problem for many people (me included) is that while you can use almost any lens on other mirrorless systems, you lose autofocus. I still have and use the odd manual focus lens but more and more I'm becoming dependent on autofocus. Laziness is part of th

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Paul Ewins : If I was marketing the K-01 the message would be "Do you want to be locked into a system with few lenses and no room to grow or would you like to be part of a system with a wide range of lenses which will still work later if you graduate to an SLR". To me that is the

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread Paul Ewins
On 20/03/2012, at 1:51 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I'm pretty sure that this /is/ a mirrorless camera targeted at the Pentax > faithful. Really if you were looking for an EVIL camera stepping up from a > P&S and didn't have an investment in K mount lenses what system would you > choose. If

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm pretty sure that this /is/ a mirrorless camera targeted at the Pentax faithful. Really if you were looking for an EVIL camera stepping up from a P&S and didn't have an investment in K mount lenses what system would you choose. Every other system is better integrated, some have much faster

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >I wonder if what we'll get is a K-01 with and EVF I think that's likely to happen eventually. The K-01 is intended for newbies (to both photography and Pentax) but I expect a mirrorless camera targeted at the Pentax faithful before too long. -- Mark Roberts - Photography &

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
2012 3/19/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor On Mar 19, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > Mirror Slap would be an excellent name for a band, especially one made > up of guys old enough to actually remember what mirror slap was. > When

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 19, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > Mirror Slap would be an excellent name for a band, especially one made > up of guys old enough to actually remember what mirror slap was. > When this 52 year old looks in the mirror in the morning, it is > definitely a mirror slap. Now that I thi

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread David Parsons
I understand that the uses I mentioned use power. I also noted that it would not be difficult to have a physical catch for the mirror. It's not a priority for Pentax to offer it, so it probably will never happen. I also do not think that it would require a redesign of the entire mirror assembly t

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread P. J. Alling
All those methods use power, which is sucked out of the battery. Larry want's a passive mechanical lockup. I understand why, I just don't think it's likely given that it would probably require a complete redesign of the mirror/shutter mechanism. Electronic lockup, as you've noticed, is easy.

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread Darren Addy
Mirror Slap would be an excellent name for a band, especially one made up of guys old enough to actually remember what mirror slap was. When this 52 year old looks in the mirror in the morning, it is definitely a mirror slap. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread P. J. Alling
I noticed that mirror slap was much quieter with the MZ-3 and ZX-5n. and while those mirrors were a bit smaller than the LX mirror they weren't all that much smaller. The *ist-D seemed to use the same mirror box reflex mirror assembly that the MZ/ZX series film camera used. On 3/19/2012 6:5

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread steve harley
on 2012-03-19 16:57 Larry Colen wrote I'm surprised you couldn't just have some mechanical catch that holds it up. just build a special shelf into those new short-throw lens bodies ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread David Parsons
They've managed to find a way to keep the mirror up for sensor cleaning, live view, and video... Adding a catch to keep the mirror up is not a major ordeal. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:53 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > On 3/19/2012 6:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Brian Wa

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:53 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > I don't think that the new electronic shutter/mirror designs allow for a > mechanical lockup mechanism, and a redesign is probably beyond the means of > Pentax or any other manufacturer, not to mention part of the reason shutters > are so mu

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 3/19/2012 6:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Matthew Hunt: http://photorumors.com/2012/03/19/pentax-k-r-successor/ My eyeball-based deconvolution algorithm says "K-z". I don't care what they call it but a K-r with 16 MP? I'm interest

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > Quoting Matthew Hunt : > >> http://photorumors.com/2012/03/19/pentax-k-r-successor/ >> >> My eyeball-based deconvolution algorithm says "K-z". >> > > > > I don't care what they call it but a K-r with 16 MP? > > I'm interested. Here's

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Steven Desjardins I think it's K-french poodle. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: http://photorumors.com/2012/03/19/pentax-k-r-successor/ My eyeball-based deconvolution algorithm says "K-z". Get ya' a big red nose & a Bozo-the-Clown rainbow wig and the security gu

Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Matthew Hunt http://photorumors.com/2012/03/19/pentax-k-r-successor/ My eyeball-based deconvolution algorithm says "K-z". The K-E-double-L-O-double-G-good! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Matthew Hunt : http://photorumors.com/2012/03/19/pentax-k-r-successor/ My eyeball-based deconvolution algorithm says "K-z". I don't care what they call it but a K-r with 16 MP? I'm interested. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydn

Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think it's K-french poodle. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: > http://photorumors.com/2012/03/19/pentax-k-r-successor/ > > My eyeball-based deconvolution algorithm says "K-z". > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml

Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread Matthew Hunt
http://photorumors.com/2012/03/19/pentax-k-r-successor/ My eyeball-based deconvolution algorithm says "K-z". -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions