RE: Where are the Portrait lenses?

2009-03-09 Thread Desjardins, Steve
It's funny. He points out that perspective of a 75 is not that useful for portraits, which is one reason why there aren't many around to be portrait lenses for the DX format. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Lib

Re: Where are the Portrait lenses?

2009-03-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Quoting: "Pentax (the one company, I think, that really understands primes right now, as evidenced by the new 15mm F4". They have my, ummm, sympathy ;-). I mean the article author. Boris Tim Bray wrote: Nice piece in DPReview: http://blog.dpreview.com/editorial/2009/03/where-are-the-portra

Re: Where are the Portrait lenses?

2009-03-06 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks for posting, Tim. Really enjoyed the insights of the article. Learned a lot & decided I agree. :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Tim Bray" To: "?Pentax-Discuss? Mail? List??" Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:57 PM Subject: Where

Re: Where are the Portrait lenses?

2009-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 6, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Nice piece in DPReview: http://blog.dpreview.com/editorial/2009/03/where-are-the-portrait-lenses.html Comments are interesting too. -T Thanks for that. I posted a comment on the ideas. I'm progressing on my Frankensteinian, Cotty-like lens projec

Where are the Portrait lenses?

2009-03-06 Thread Tim Bray
Nice piece in DPReview: http://blog.dpreview.com/editorial/2009/03/where-are-the-portrait-lenses.html Comments are interesting too. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above a

RE: Non K-mount portrait lenses

2004-10-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
K-mount portrait lenses Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >I know you asked about lenses other than K-mount, but ... > >I may give the M75-150 a go for a portrait. It's reasonably sharp and >a good range, with optimum sharpness definitely from 80-120mm. > >Sincerely, > >

Re: Non K-mount portrait lenses

2004-10-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis" Subject: RE: Non K-mount portrait lenses On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Take a look at the Pentax M 75~150 Zoom. I don't care much for it except as a portrait lens. Seconded, though it's widest aperture

Re: Non K-mount portrait lenses

2004-10-26 Thread Henri Toivonen
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I know you asked about lenses other than K-mount, but ... I may give the M75-150 a go for a portrait. It's reasonably sharp and a good range, with optimum sharpness definitely from 80-120mm. Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl I got me one for portraits, it has a nice feel and

RE: Non K-mount portrait lenses

2004-10-26 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I know you asked about lenses other than K-mount, but ... The A100/2.8 goes < $200 on eBay. There's one from GB listd right now. It's just a little long, but still very good for bust shots. And the contrasty A coatings help. Interestingly, M100/2.8 lenses, with slightly warmer coatings, have

RE: Non K-mount portrait lenses

2004-10-26 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Take a look at the Pentax M 75~150 Zoom. I don't care much for it except > as a portrait lens. Seconded, though it's widest aperture is f4. Only came out of my bag when I bought the more versatile and AF F70-210. However, the 75-150 is light and short

Re: Non K-mount portrait lenses

2004-10-25 Thread Caveman
You may also take a look at the 90mm macro lenses out there. Jon M wrote: I've been looking for a while at getting a portrait lens in the 70-85 range. The A85/1.4 is prohibitively expensive, the K85/1.8 is also out there, and even the "lowly" M85/2 tends to go for more than I can swing at this poin

RE: Non K-mount portrait lenses

2004-10-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Take a look at the Pentax M 75~150 Zoom. I don't care much for it except as a portrait lens. You might get one fairly inexpensively. Jupiter lenses are a pretty good buy, IMO, having used a couple on the Leica. Expectations are such that an M42 version would be comparable. There were lots of M4

RE: Non K-mount portrait lenses

2004-10-25 Thread Don Sanderson
MAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Non K-mount portrait lenses > > > You might look for an M42 Super Takumar 85/1.9. It's more affordable > than the M42 SMC Tak 85/1.8, yet it's quite good. Far superior, I would > guess, to any of the very early M39 lenses. > Paul Stenquist

Re: Non K-mount portrait lenses

2004-10-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
You might look for an M42 Super Takumar 85/1.9. It's more affordable than the M42 SMC Tak 85/1.8, yet it's quite good. Far superior, I would guess, to any of the very early M39 lenses. Paul Stenquist On Oct 25, 2004, at 9:02 PM, Jon M wrote: I've been looking for a while at getting a portrait l

Non K-mount portrait lenses

2004-10-25 Thread Jon M
I've been looking for a while at getting a portrait lens in the 70-85 range. The A85/1.4 is prohibitively expensive, the K85/1.8 is also out there, and even the "lowly" M85/2 tends to go for more than I can swing at this point. I occasionally see M42 and M39 lenses in this range on ebay, some Zei

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? > William Robb: trainer of dogs and models. > Is there a correlation between the two? Youth > wants to know! Positive reinforcment, my friend. And never ask either to do more tha

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-26 Thread Lon Williamson
William Robb: trainer of dogs and models. Is there a correlation between the two? Youth wants to know! William Robb wrote: ... When I am training a new model, I start with 35mm and work through to medium format, and then large format over several sessions before I expect to get anything good from

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Every bride has a concept of what a bride should look like, but doesn't realize that the marketed bride image is that of professional models. Knowing your veneration to "professional" everything... did you get a professional bride too ? cheers, caveman

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
This is why the people skills of a photographer are very important for things like wedding photography. Every bride has a concept of what a bride should look like, but doesn't realize that the marketed bride image is that of professional models. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non professional s

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Caveman Subject: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? > > > Non professional subjects tend to be intimidated by large equipment. > > I sense a lewd something here ;-) You would. William Robb

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
William Robb wrote: Non professional subjects tend to be intimidated by large equipment. I sense a lewd something here ;-) cheers, caveman

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Andre Langevin Subject: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? > > The A85/1.4 hood is monstrous also, but with a cooler shade, the lens > is not that frightening I think. A nice hood I found for it is the > one for the Hexanon 85-210/3.5.

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Andre Langevin
The time that I still had my FA*85/1.4, everyone was frightened whenever I point that damn thing at them. Everyone of them were amazed by how big the hood was. No such problem with the 77. :-) regards, Alan Chan You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the f2

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Alan Chan
The time that I still had my FA*85/1.4, everyone was frightened whenever I point that damn thing at them. Everyone of them were amazed by how big the hood was. No such problem with the 77. :-) regards, Alan Chan You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the f2

RE: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Jens Bladt
t: 25. juni 2003 04:25 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? >Hi Jens, > >as I have written before, I have done my own resolution etc. tests >of portrait lenses: See http://www.arnoldstark.de/pentax.htm >Here are the results in line pairs/mm average

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Rfsindg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: > You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot > them with the f2 lens? No, they all hide in the corner when the f1.4 comes out. ;-) > Does the front element makes it? I mean, would a 85/2 on a PZ-1 or K > camera be fine while a 85/1.4 o

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Andre Langevin
Bob S.: I can say that the A85mm f1.4 is sharper, but the size frightens small children and dogs, not to mention the relatives you might want candid portraits of. You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the f2 lens? Does the front element makes it? I mean, wo

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-24 Thread Anthony Farr
No matter how good the sample is, it simply cannot exceed the performance that its designers bestowed on it. The 'on-paper' design is the best it can be, manufacturing tolerances or wear-and-tear will always move the lens to a lower performance level. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-24 Thread Andre Langevin
Hi Jens, as I have written before, I have done my own resolution etc. tests of portrait lenses: See http://www.arnoldstark.de/pentax.htm Here are the results in line pairs/mm averaged from f2 to f11 and from centre to corner: M85 65 K85 61 A*85 62 FA*8566 FA77 69 My

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-24 Thread Alan Chan
Where I find 100mm too long is shooting something like a wedding reception, which I've done 3 times now. Inside, there is a significant chance that some guest will pop into the foreground. Outside, the 100 works well. I just shot a wedding this weekend, and slapped on the A35-70mm f4 because the

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-24 Thread Jens Bladt
Hi I own both the 2.0/85 and the 2.8/105. Nither of them are very good (sharpness/resolution) and I hardly ever use them. I guess my best portrait lenses are Tokina Pro II 2.6-2.8/28-70mm (sharp) and the latest (repurchased recently - off ebay/USA) the K2.5/135mm. Regards Jens

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-24 Thread Lon Williamson
Where I find 100mm too long is shooting something like a wedding reception, which I've done 3 times now. Inside, there is a significant chance that some guest will pop into the foreground. Outside, the 100 works well. I just shot a wedding this weekend, and slapped on the A35-70mm f4 because the

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Prime portrait lenses - which one? > I find my M100 f2.8 to be a tad long in many portrait situations, > and am pondering the purchase of an 85mm. > > The cheapest is probably the M85 f2. I expect I'd find it >

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-23 Thread Bob Blakely
K85/1.8 Regards, Bob... "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" -Martin Luther From: "Lon Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-23 Thread Fred
Hi, Carlos. > Probably the M 85 mm. f:2 is an excellent choice for portraits. The M 85/2 is a pretty good portrait lens, despite its unpretentious seeming design, and is the most economical Pentax K-mount 85. > The lens I use the most for portraits is a K 85 mm. 1.8 and I love > it. [and] The

Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-09 Thread dave o'brien
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Dan Scott wrote: > My wife has forbidden me to photograph her with the FA 100/2.8 macro. I > comply, but it baffles me--other than a reversed l/r image what do women > see in a photo that they haven't seen in a mirror? Nothing, but at least the mirror image stays in the bathr

Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-09 Thread T Rittenhouse
In the old days they used a 5x7 camera and retouched the negative. These days I would recommend Photoshop. --graywolf - Original Message - From: wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:21 PM Subject: Portrait lenses > A

Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-09 Thread Bgpentax
Wendy..you are So right...extreme sharpness is NOT desirable in a lens used for portraiture or fall foliage, etc lenses have unique characteristics which make them excellent for an application and mediocre for others. So many times I've read here how guys are disappointed with their 70-2

Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-09 Thread Robert Woerner
I've shot "portraits" (candid photo ops at weddings, etc.) using a PZ1p with AF500FTZ flash and an F 100 2.8 macro with great results. The FA 28-105 (power zoom model) is also a stellar performer. The film I use is Fuji NPS shot as rated (160) and processed by a good lab and printed on Kodak Roya

Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-09 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
ight flash placement. Collin At 11:29 PM 2/8/02 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 23:21:39 -0500 >From: wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Portrait lenses > >A couple of days ago there was a thread about portrait lenses and macro >lenses of roughly the same f

Re: Portrait Lenses

2002-02-08 Thread Ryan Charron
rtrait. A Fellow Pentaxian, Ryan Charron Wendy Beard wrote: Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 23:21:39 -0500 From: wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Portrait lenses A couple of days ago there was a thread about portrait lenses and macro lenses of roughly the same focal length (around 1

Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-08 Thread Alan Chan
>My wife has forbidden me to photograph her with the FA 100/2.8 macro. I >comply, but it baffles me--other than a reversed l/r image what do women >see in a photo that they haven't seen in a mirror? The "true-self"? regards, Alan Chan

Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-08 Thread Dan Scott
My wife has forbidden me to photograph her with the FA 100/2.8 macro. I comply, but it baffles me--other than a reversed l/r image what do women see in a photo that they haven't seen in a mirror? Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Anyway, I would just like to iterate, if anyone is thinking of going in