On 2 Nov 2005 at 18:37, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 1 Nov 2005 at 14:42, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Am I obligated not to show anyone the other pics? What about the one she
saw
and didn't want me to show?
Forget that you ever pressed the shutter when she was in front of the camera,
leave her
Shel, it sounds to me like you think they are good -- she thinks they are
bad. And that you think if you show them to others they will think they are
good. Ergo, she will change her mind and then think they are good too.
But I wouldn't count on it.
For instance, personally, I rarely like
greetings
Markus
-Original Message-
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:18 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: A Small Dilemma
If she explicitly said not to post her photo, take that as generic
regarding all photos of her.
Unless
Hi!
At least this is what I would do... I too have some very nice pictures
(to my eye at least) that I cannot show anyone *sigh*.
Boris you kinky bugger ;-)))
ROTFLMAO...
Nothing really kinky, Cotty... Not in a sense you might have thought
about it anyway ;-).
--
Boris
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:01:45 -, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Tom C wrote:
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How about a little more relaxed attitude toward sharing the picture.
I'll take a shot of my wife, and she'll say, Oh, I hate that one,
don't show anyone. I
On 11/1/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about
photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph
one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she
didn't like. She
On 11/1/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you show that one pic at this point, she could probably successfully sue
you. snip
sue for what? she knew the photo was being taken and didn't object to
that, she only objected to shel showing it, afaik. assuming shel will
not be showing
Show me the pics and I´ll give you my answer ;-)
All the best!
Raimo K
personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho/
Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about
photography and cameras, and ended up
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: A Small Dilemma
On 11/1/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you show that one pic at this point, she could probably successfully
sue
you. snip
sue for what? she knew the photo was being taken and didn't object
On 11/2/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A person can launch a lawsuit for pretty much any reason, if they desire.
true. implicit in my question was that the lawsuit not be frivolous
or vexatious.
If she finds the final picture to be defaming, and has given specific
instructions to
frank theriault wrote:
--SNIP--
with the greatest of respect: wrong! defamation is the publication
or utterance of an untruth about someone. truth is a complete defense
to the charge. assuming that shel hasn't manipulated the photos, he
can't be sued for defamation.
--SNIP--
-frank
How did George Galloway prove that defamation isn't the publication of an
untruth about someone?
John
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 14:56:23 -, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
frank theriault wrote:
--SNIP--
with the greatest of respect: wrong! defamation is the publication
or utterance of
On 2/11/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
At least this is what I would do... I too have some very nice pictures
(to my eye at least) that I cannot show anyone *sigh*.
Boris you kinky bugger ;-)))
ROTFLMAO...
Nothing really kinky, Cotty... Not in a sense you might have thought
In some jurisdictions judges like to make the law. A good judge who
knew and respected the law would throw a baseless lawsuit out, but with
some you can't be sure they even know the law it's not required
frank theriault wrote:
On 11/2/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A person
On 11/2/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In some jurisdictions judges like to make the law. A good judge who
knew and respected the law would throw a baseless lawsuit out, but with
some you can't be sure they even know the law it's not required
a plaintiff must make out a prima
In some jurisdictions judges like to make the law.
I don't think this is limited by jurisdictions.
Kenneth Waller
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From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Small Dilemma
A good judge who
knew and respected the law would throw a baseless lawsuit out
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about
photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph
one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she
didn't like. She specifically asked - in fact told me
Hello Shel,
Part of the obligation depends on the relationship. If you wish to
maintain the relationship, then you should probably comply with her
requests. When I am confronted with a situation like that, I do try
to probe as to what the objection is. Sometimes we can take a few
shots to
On 1/11/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about
photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph
one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she
didn't like. She
Show us the picture(s) so we can make a determination of your obligations.
;)
rg
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about
photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph
one another. I got a few nice shots of her,
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:42:13PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about
photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph
one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she
didn't like.
On 11/1/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about
photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph
one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she
didn't like. She
If this acquaintance is a friend, I would want to retain the friendship
and not publish any of the pictures. How about showing the ones she took
of you?
Jim A.
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about
photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras
Why are you surprised, John? I'm a curious fellow and would like to hear
what others think or may do in such a situation. The question was prompted
by comments made in another thread, and it's been on my mind for a while to
get a sense of how others see this situation.
Shel
You meet the nicest
Interspersed
[Original Message]
From: skye
Am I obligated not to show anyone the other pics? What about the one
she
saw and didn't want me to show?
Pardon me for saying so, but it kind of sounds like you're asking for
an excuse to do the opposite of what your acquaintance wants you
Depends on what?
Shel
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
[Original Message]
From: Cotty
Am I obligated not to show anyone the other pics? What about the one she
saw and didn't want me to show?
Har, this is straight out of a 'Scruples' box.
Depends.
They hoovered ... not a one was in focus ... which surprised me considering
that she's a photographer of some skill. Maybe her heart wasn't in it ...
Shel
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
[Original Message]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How about showing the ones she took
of you?
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: A Small Dilemma
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about
photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to
photograph
one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which
I'd have thought there was a pretty strong moral obligation not to
show a picture you were asked not to show by the subject, unless
there was a pretty good reason not to respect her wishes. And if
you have a good reason to believe she would object to you showing
the others, I think you should
Just my opinions...
Am I obligated not to show anyone the other pics?
If its anything like the one she specifically warned against - yes.
What about the one she saw and didn't want me to show?
I think you know the answer to this one.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Shel
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't have enough friends and aquaintances to risk alienating any of
them.
Just go for it. ;-)
Tom C.
If she explicitly said not to post her photo, take that as generic
regarding all photos of her.
Unless you just want to piss her off, that is. ;-)
Godfrey
On Nov 1, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about
photography and
Legally, you probably have no worry because of implied consent. She most
likely could not prove she told you not to show that one, and even if
she could it would only be binging on that particular photo, if the
situation was as you described it.
Morally, if you subscribe to any moral system,
Common sense would seem to dictate that one respect the wishes of a
friend, particularly when it comes to such things as making public an
image the friend doesn't want displayed.
Paul
On Nov 1, 2005, at 7:17 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Why are you surprised, John? I'm a curious fellow and would
How about a little more relaxed attitude toward sharing the picture.
I'll take a shot of my wife, and she'll say, Oh, I hate that one, don't
show anyone. I happen to like it. I'll email it to other family
members. They all tell her how much they like it, and suddenly she's
glad I sent it to
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How about a little more relaxed attitude toward sharing the picture. I'll
take a shot of my wife, and she'll say, Oh, I hate that one, don't show
anyone. I happen to like it. I'll email it to other family members.
They all tell her how much they like
Tom C wrote:
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How about a little more relaxed attitude toward sharing the picture.
I'll take a shot of my wife, and she'll say, Oh, I hate that one,
don't show anyone. I happen to like it. I'll email it to other
family members. They all tell her how
Ain't THAT the truth! LOL.
Tom C.
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But every wife is different (and even the same wife can be different on
different days)... ;)
Dave
- Original Message -
From: David Oswald
Subject: Re: A Small Dilemma
But every wife is different (and even the same wife can be different on
different days)... ;)
Your wife is that stable?
Lucky guy.
William Robb
Hi!
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about
photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph
one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she
didn't like. She specifically asked - in fact told me on no uncertain
On Nov 2, 2005, at 11:42 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Am I obligated not to show anyone the other pics? What about the
one she
saw and didn't want me to show?
If she expressed strong dissatisfaction with the one pic you showed
her, I'd be hesitant to show any of the others without first
On 1/11/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Depends on what?
Depends on how close the acquaintance is.
Depends on the true facts of the situation as interpreted by the
photographer and the sitter, and how those facts relate to one another in
context.
Depends on how strongly they
On 2/11/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
At least this is what I would do... I too have some very nice pictures
(to my eye at least) that I cannot show anyone *sigh*.
Boris you kinky bugger ;-)))
Cheers,
Cotty
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Shel
I'd choose not to show the pic she didn't like and asked you not to show.
If the other pics are very much like this one, don't show these either?
If they are quite different, you could publish them or perhaps show them to
her and ask if you can publish them.
Unless it is otherwise important,
On 1 Nov 2005 at 14:42, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Am I obligated not to show anyone the other pics? What about the one she
saw and didn't want me to show?
Forget that you ever pressed the shutter when she was in front of the camera,
leave her to her personal image issues.
Rob Studdert
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