Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
What format? 35mm or medium format? Most of my B&W film work in landscapes was done with ASA 100 films ... TMax 100 and Ilford Delta Pro 100 were my two favorites when stopped using film on any regular basis. Shooting medium format, ASA 400 works well but the ASA 100 films have better acuta

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Any High Speed film will be grainy, and 400 is a high speed film. I'd use the slowest speed film I could find. That's likely to Plus X Pan, I'd recommend Ilfords Pan F but I've found Plus X to have a nicer grain structure. Joseph Tainter wrote: I need to photograph, in black-and-white, some

RE: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Bob W
You might consider a light yellow-green filter, X0. The green in the filter is very effective in bringing out the many different tones of green in a landscape. The yellow has a very naturalistic effect in bringing down the blue of the sky to heighten the clouds. It also reduces haze. The effect is,

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Lewis Matthew
I prefer either Ilford Delta 100 or Kodak TMax 100 to Plus X. Lewis Any High Speed film will be grainy, and 400 is a high speed film. I'd use the slowest speed film I could find. That's likely to Plus X Pan, I'd recommend Ilfords Pan F but I've found Plus X to have a nicer grain structure.

RE: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Joe ... There are way too many variables to consider besides film brand, speed, and type. I've gotten finer grain and a smoother look from TX than with slower films like Delta 100 and the Kodak Tmax 100. There's the question of which developer will be used and how the film is actually process

RE: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Gasha
Thanks Shel for the URL below. I was looking exactly for information about color filters. Gasha > > http://tinyurl.com/8oum4 or > http://www.schneideroptics.com/filters/filters_for_still_photography/black_&; > _white/ > > Tiffen also makes some interesting filters that will help tame a scene >

RE: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Joseph Tainter
Shel's questions to me (and my answers embedded): 1) Will you be making darkroom prints directly from the negs? I expect so, but I may have the negatives scanned too. I don't remember whether my Nikon LS 2000 can scan b/w negatives. I know it won't scan Scala. 2) How large do you ex

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" Subject: B/W Film Advice Needed So what do b/w shooters recommend for a low-grain landscape film with good tonal range? I don't like the T-Grain film at all, this includes Ilford Delta. I don't like the look of the grain. My first choi

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 10, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: 1) Will you be making darkroom prints directly from the negs? I expect so, but I may have the negatives scanned too. I don't remember whether my Nikon LS 2000 can scan b/w negatives. I know it won't scan Scala. I'm sure your LS2000 ca

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Mark Roberts
"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: "Joseph Tainter" >Subject: B/W Film Advice Needed >> >> So what do b/w shooters recommend for a low-grain landscape film with good >> tonal range? > >I don't like the T-Grain film at all, this includes Ilford Delta. >I don't like the look of the gr

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Glenn
On 7/10/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Joseph Tainter" > Subject: B/W Film Advice Needed > > > > > > > > So what do b/w shooters recommend for a low-grain landscape film with good > > tonal range? > > I don't like the T-Grain film at all, t

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 10, 2005, at 6:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: A man after my own heart! I shoot Pan-F whenever I can. Microdol-X seems to keep the harshness in check. My test bed for film and chemistry evaluation was Minox subminiature format, where tiny changes in exposure and processing become imme

RE: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Interspersed Shel > [Original Message] > From: Joseph Tainter > Shel's questions to me (and my answers embedded): > > 1) Will you be making darkroom prints directly from the negs? > > I expect so, but I may have the negatives scanned too. I don't remember > whether my Nikon LS 2000 can s

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi ... I tend to agree with you about the T-grain and Delta films. Never liked their grain nor the tonality. Conventional B&W like PX, TX, and others, always seem to deliver more pleasing results. I've played with Pan-F over the years and have always been a little dissatisfied with it, although

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: B/W Film Advice Needed On Jul 10, 2005, at 6:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: A man after my own heart! I shoot Pan-F whenever I can. Microdol-X seems to keep the harshness in check. My test bed for film and

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 10, 2005, at 9:06 PM, William Robb wrote: When I tested T-Max, I discovered that it has an almost straight slope when processed in T-Max developer. I never did try it in X-Tol. TMax developer never returned me any decent results at all. XTOL and HC-110 worked well, XTOL the best. A

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 10, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi ... I tend to agree with you about the T-grain and Delta films. Never liked their grain nor the tonality. Conventional B&W like PX, TX, and others, always seem to deliver more pleasing results. I've played with Pan-F over the years an

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Your experience with Microdol X is similar to my own. I used it for quite a few years back in the seventies, mainly because it was conveniently available pre-mixed , but eventually realized it wasn't giving me the kind of results I needed, particularly for car photography. I eventually switched

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-11 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
The results you get often depend on the technique you use. That is, in exposing and developing. Fuji Acros, Agfa APX-100, TMax 100, TechPan & so many do a fine job but do so differently for each individual. Some personal recommendations: 1. For landscapes, if it's rocky, use a yellow or orange fi

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: B/W Film Advice Needed On Jul 10, 2005, at 9:06 PM, William Robb wrote: When I tested T-Max, I discovered that it has an almost straight slope when processed in T-Max developer. I never did try it in X-T

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If you're willing to bulk load, you can get 100ft rolls of Pan F under >the Arista brand name from Freestyle for $16.99 each. Interesting. Where did you get this information? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-11 Thread Glenn
On 7/11/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >If you're willing to bulk load, you can get 100ft rolls of Pan F under > >the Arista brand name from Freestyle for $16.99 each. > > Interesting. Where did you get this information? > > -- > Mark Roberts >

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-12 Thread Frantisek
Here in Central & Eastern Europe, Ilford is selling two cheaper films called Ilford Pan 100 & 400. They are essentially the same as FP4+ and HP5+, and I have heard many different accounts on why they sell them here and cheaper as well (both HP and FP are sold too). In my and others testing, the 400

Re: B/W Film Advice Needed

2005-07-12 Thread Mark Cassino
Hi Joseph - WRT film - I've settled in on APX100 for most of my landscape work (which is most of my B&W shooting.) I shoot 120 format, develop in HC110 1:100. For low contrast scenes I develop 15 minutes and agitate every 30 seconds. For high contrast exposures I set the time to 21.5 minutes, a