Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-18 Thread P. J. Alling
They do in Pentax's Digital Camera Utility. Any settings in your camera are the starting point for rendering the final raw image. To see the raw output without those settings you have to change them in PDCU. I don't use Lightroom the current version simply won't run on my system, so I

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-18 Thread Bruce Walker
OK, I'll admit it makes some sense to do that, but afaict LR and ACR (I use both) completely ignore that metadata. I don't use PDCU as LR PS cover all my needs. -bmw On 11-03-18 1:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: They do in Pentax's Digital Camera Utility. Any settings in your camera are the

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-17 Thread David J Brooks
: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky Bruce suggested I add the photo to Dropbox so here is the link to one of the photos that has blue sky. I am not sure why the JPEG version looks way better than the DNG/RAW version of the file. I am beginning to think it is perhaps my

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-17 Thread David Parsons
pixelized. John -- http://www.jacelio.com -Original Message- From: Jeffery Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 6:58 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky Bruce suggested I add the photo to Dropbox so here is the link

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-17 Thread P. J. Alling
I opened it in I saw what looked like blocky mottling in the sky at camera settings, it was pretty subtle. However when I changed to Daylight balance, and natural that disappeared. I think there may be a problem with the way the image processing software is rendering in camera settings. I

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-17 Thread P. J. Alling
I really should read these before I hit send Software, Pentax Camera Utility. (insert that after I opened it.) remove the in after camera settings. Instead of a period after I could be wrong change that to a comma and add the word but Carry on. On 3/17/2011 11:11 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-17 Thread steve harley
On 2011-03-16 19:58 , Jeffery Johnson wrote: Bruce suggested I add the photo to Dropbox so here is the link to one of the photos that has blue sky. I am not sure why the JPEG version looks way better than the DNG/RAW version of the file. I am beginning to think it is perhaps my monitor and if it

RE: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue, sky

2011-03-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: Jeffery Johnson LOL no the monitor is not dirty. I am still working out what the issue might be with blue sky. I am not sure yet if it could be an issue with my monitor or not. This has become an interesting puzzle to try and figure out what is causing the issue. Something that hit me I

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-03-16 9:58 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Bruce suggested I add the photo to Dropbox so here is the link to one of the photos that has blue sky. I am not sure why the JPEG version looks way better than the DNG/RAW version of the file. I am beginning to think it is perhaps my monitor and if it

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-17 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:02 -0400, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Jeffrey, I see no banding in that image, just the usual low level of ISO 200 noise. Your sensor looks very clean, but you would have got less shake if you'd used a tripod for that shot. :-) Here's another wild

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-03-17 4:50 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:02 -0400, Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, my take is that the images from your camera are fine. Both PJ and I have confirmed that there is subtle banding pixellation in the sky when viewed with the Pentax

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Those in-camera image adjustments, like brightness, contrast, saturation, sharpness, etc., only apply to JPEG image creation. That applies to both JPEGs saved on the SD card as well as the rear-LCD preview images. But those settings have no effect on the RAW images. I don't believe they even

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-17 Thread David Parsons
The only time in-camera settings are applied to RAW files is when you are using a RAW converter that can read and understand the metadata. LR, ACR, and other apps apply their own defaults to the data. As far as they are concerned, that data does not exist. Even things like the WB presets are

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-16 Thread John Celio
: Need you to contact me about blue sky Bruce suggested I add the photo to Dropbox so here is the link to one of the photos that has blue sky. I am not sure why the JPEG version looks way better than the DNG/RAW version of the file. I am beginning to think it is perhaps my monitor and if it is then I

RE: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-16 Thread Jeffery Johnson
:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky I opened the file in Photoshop CS4 Camera Raw and saw nothing wrong with the sky. Are you sure your monitor is not just dirty or something? Actually, you would know if it's your monitor

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-16 Thread Paul Sorenson
://www.jacelio.com -Original Message- From: Jeffery Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 6:58 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky Bruce suggested I add the photo to Dropbox so here is the link to one of the photos

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-16 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-03-16 22:47, Paul Sorenson wrote: I opened the file in Photoshop Elements 9 Camera Raw and got the same results as John. Didn't see any banding in the sky. Same here, also with Photoshop Elements 9. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-16 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:16 -0700, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: I opened the file in Photoshop CS4 Camera Raw and saw nothing wrong with the sky. I also can't see any pixellation issues using CS3. However, opening the image in the Pentax Digital Camera Utility 4, I think I'm seeing

Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-16 Thread Paul Sorenson
Grasping at straws, here. I know you checked the monitor resolution. What about the refresh rate? LCDs typically like low refresh rates - around 60hz. -p On 3/16/2011 9:50 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2011-03-16 22:47, Paul Sorenson wrote: I opened the file in Photoshop Elements 9 Camera

RE: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-16 Thread Jeffery Johnson
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky I also can't see any pixellation issues using CS3. However, opening the image in the Pentax Digital Camera Utility 4, I think I'm seeing what you describe when viewed at 100%. There seems

RE: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you to contact me about blue sky

2011-03-16 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Yeah I have been planning around with the settings and is set at 60hz. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sorenson Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bruce, Bob, David RE: Need you