RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Both 80's vintage CD players I bought new died early deaths. One was a 1984 Sony and the other was a 1988 Magnavox. Since prices were falling so fast in the 80s I replaced them both with new units rather than pay for repairs. I then bought a Carver in 1991 but even it acts up once in a while now.

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-10 Thread Mark Roberts
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 10 Jan 2002 at 16:35, Rob Brigham wrote: > >> alternatively, I bought a CD player for £100 in 1985. It still works as >> new today. > >You're very very lucky, there aren't many CD players of that era that >functioned flawlessly for more than 5 years

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Jan 2002 at 10:52, John Coyle wrote: > Have to add my 1989-vintage Marantz CD player to that list Rob! Hi John, You wouldn't want to know how many of those things I have repaired/written off :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PRO

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-10 Thread John Coyle
Have to add my 1989-vintage Marantz CD player to that list Rob! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Friday, January 11, 2002 9:35 AM, Rob Studdert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On 10 Jan 2002 at 16:35, Rob Brigham wrote: > > > alternatively, I bought a CD player for ?100 in 1985. It still w

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Jan 2002 at 16:35, Rob Brigham wrote: > alternatively, I bought a CD player for £100 in 1985. It still works as > new today. You're very very lucky, there aren't many CD players of that era that functioned flawlessly for more than 5 years and this includes the top players from the devel

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-10 Thread Robert Soames Wetmore
t can't be trusted. Rob Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 13:06:39 -0800 From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses I'd like to thank everyone who jumped into this thread last week and mentioned that Tamron has a six year warranty on their len

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'd like to thank everyone who jumped into this thread last week and mentioned that Tamron has a six year warranty on their lenses. My friend double-checked, found his paperwork, and sent the lens in for a free repair under the warranty, saving a bunch of money as well as a lot of time and aggrav

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-08 Thread Jody
43mm zoom, so that means it zooms from 43mm to 43mm, right ;) --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He wants a zoom for travel. He can always use my > 43mm if he's so > inclined. You're probably right about the > quality difference. > Thanks! > > Clive Williams wrote: Send FREE vi

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-07 Thread wendy beard
>- --- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Brendan can tell you about the Sigma 28-105 f2.8-4. > > He bought one (from > > me) against my recommendation...and whaddaya think > > about it, Brendan? :) > > What a salesman! "No sir, you don't want to buy that lens, it's crap" "Okay, I

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-07 Thread Kent Gittings
e to stick them on eBay. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses We've had a Tamron 28-300 for two years. Wo

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-07 Thread Brendan
It's crap, crap, crap, the extra stop isn't worth it at all, but I did get it real cheap :) --- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 03:19 AM, Flavio > Minelli wrote: > > > Did you ever wonder why there are > > so many used Sigma 28-105/2.8 for sale? Tha

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
My friend wants a zoom. He doesn't want to mess around with changing lenses. He's not interested in "image quality" beyond snap shots and an occasional 8x10. He's not interested in building a "kit" and carrying around a bunch of lenses, ot trying to decide which to take with him. However, I'd

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-06 Thread Clive Williams
>He wants a zoom for travel. I used to think I wanted a zoom for travel. That was until I rediscovered the pleasure of primes. [Let's veer OT: why are they called 'primes' anyway?] Now, my M24-35 seldom strays off 24, my F70-210 is pretty well fixed at 210 and the FA28-70 generally stays at ho

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 03:19 AM, Flavio Minelli wrote: > Did you ever wonder why there are > so many used Sigma 28-105/2.8 for sale? That one is real crap and the > fast (relativeley) aperture is just bait... I totally agree. My SMC-M 28mm f2.8 (which is the worst lens I own in my

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-05 Thread Shel Belinkoff
He wants a zoom for travel. He can always use my 43mm if he's so inclined. You're probably right about the quality difference. Thanks! Clive Williams wrote: > If he likes quality and wants something that'll last, he needs a 43 > Limited. For Family pictures, which tend to have more than on

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-05 Thread Bgpentax
I've had excellent results with the Sigma 28-105 f2.8-4 on a ZX-7 body...A real good cosmetic match too...Super sharp at 70mm and just a tad soft at 105mm so nice for portraits. Pop Photog test in Jan. 98 issue I can mail you a copy. Got mine thru SMILE PHOTO for $179.00 + 15.00 S/H a

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-05 Thread Paul M. Provencher
Auto wipe was thrown in to see if the message got read to the end... :-) ppro > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re:

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-05 Thread Flavio Minelli
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Ho Paul, > > Because he wants an autofocus camera that's small enough and simple > enough for his wife to use. > > He does want interchangeable lenses, as he might want to borrow some of > mine some time, so fixed-lens P&S cameras are out. He's happy with the > ZX-7.

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ho Paul, Because he wants an autofocus camera that's small enough and simple enough for his wife to use. He does want interchangeable lenses, as he might want to borrow some of mine some time, so fixed-lens P&S cameras are out. He's happy with the ZX-7. What's "auto wipe"? "Paul M. Provencher

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-04 Thread Paul M. Provencher
If he has a Spotmatic, why not go buy a decent used SMCT Zoom 85~210? Hell, it would cost not much more than (if that) the cost of the repair. And forget the plastic crap. Or (blasphemy) go find a nice Canon Sure Shot Zoom - I hate to admit it but my wife gets tack sharp images properly expos

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What kind of electronics are in these lenses? aimcompute wrote: > He doesn't go out and take pictures > of electrical storms does he? :-) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go t

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-04 Thread aimcompute
We've had a Tamron 28-300 for two years. Works perfectly, never a problem and produces very nice results. Probably just the luck of the draw. He doesn't go out and take pictures of electrical storms does he? :-) I have a Pentax 28-80 AF, like brand new, that I'm trying to sell for $45. I've ne

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
Shel, Every consumer Tokina that I have looked at are heavier, metal bodied behomeths compared to the Tamron and Sigma and even many Pentax zooms. The Tamrons being fairly light (I have two for my wife and daughter, are starting to mechanically fall apart) balance well on the light, Pentax bodies