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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 04:46:34 -0700, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thing is, they NEVER put bus terminals in decent places, do they? > If they put bus terminals in nice places, the inevitable "Terminal Cafe" would lose it's irony... Too bad they're almost gone now (Terminal Cafe's

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& No, I don't want to hear about the effects of global warming. -Original Message- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:35:07 -0700, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let's see...that's a

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frank theriault wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:35:07 -0700, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Let's see..[-40º is] about the same, F or C, isn't it. Either way, I'll back out of any commitments in that kind of weather. You could freeze your bippy without knowing it! Nope. I'll stay in So.Cal

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:35:07 -0700, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let's see...that's about the same, F or C, isn't it. > Either way, I'll back out of any commitments in that kind of weather. > You could freeze your bippy without knowing it! > > Nope. I'll stay in So.Cal, where, whe

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- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers When it gets down to around -40º, it's all pretty much dry cold. Let's see...that's about the same, F or C, isn't it. Either way, I'll back out of any commitments in that kind of w

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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Nevertheless, I experienced what is meant by dry cold. After a half hour, I came back inside, just a little chilled. And that was freezing weather, technically... When it gets down to a

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And anything left un-protected is soon frozen solid... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Nevertheless, I experienced what is meant by dry cold. After a half hour, I came back inside, just a little chilled. And that wa

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- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Nevertheless, I experienced what is meant by dry cold. After a half hour, I came back inside, just a little chilled. And that was freezing weather, technically... When it gets down to around -40º, it's

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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers I rather suspected that might be the case. But, I'll bet it DOES get cold! It's a dry cold. William Robb I remember spending a weekend in the high desert E.N.E. of Los

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- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers I rather suspected that might be the case. But, I'll bet it DOES get cold! It's a dry cold. William Robb

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I rather suspected that might be the case. But, I'll bet it DOES get cold! keith William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Estevan, Saskatchewan and Minot, N.D... Sort of adjacent border towns in he northern central part of

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- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Estevan, Saskatchewan and Minot, N.D... Sort of adjacent border towns in he northern central part of the U.S. of A. Why recommend either? He likes sunshine. Estevan is one of the sunniest places in Canada,

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Peter J. Alling wrote: Lots of the fuel burned... Oh yes, I imagine it did... keith Keith Whaley wrote: Speaking of shipping and vehicle efficiency... That reminds me of a book I read sometime this past year, that was an account of the trans-Atlantic shipping that was sunk or just plain blown-up

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Estevan, Saskatchewan and Minot, N.D... Sort of adjacent border towns in he northern central part of the U.S. of A. Why recommend either? keith William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Move to Estevan. Is that near Toronto? No

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Lots of the fuel burned... Keith Whaley wrote: Speaking of shipping and vehicle efficiency... That reminds me of a book I read sometime this past year, that was an account of the trans-Atlantic shipping that was sunk or just plain blown-up just preceding WWII, and during it. Being just a babe in

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- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Move to Estevan. Is that near Toronto? No. Its near Minot though. William Robb

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Then you must be a fan of drag racing after all. There are very few rules that hinder development. Top fuel engines have evolved to the point where they produce more than 1000 horsepower per liter, using a fuel that was once just a byproduct of other chemical manufacturing processes. That's effi

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Speaking of shipping and vehicle efficiency... That reminds me of a book I read sometime this past year, that was an account of the trans-Atlantic shipping that was sunk or just plain blown-up just preceding WWII, and during it. Being just a babe in the woods when it came to such terminology, I

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Hi, Keith Whaley wrote: cbwaters wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Fuel economy in a RACE car? Not even a blip on the chart. A meaningless goal. Keith, this is a VERY outdated statement. MOST races are won these days in large part due the car's ability to burn just a bit

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That only is so if the jets are pretty much full. Since they fly on a schedule they will fly even if they only have 20-30 passengers on board. Then the efficiency is very low. The same with big trucks. Loaded they are quite efficient (ton-miles/gallon) empty they are a terrible waste of resource

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Hey, that does not fit the political/monetary scenario and will be immediately suppressed. For the laws of science must be kept subservient to the legislatures. GRIN! -- Rob Studdert wrote: On 26 Oct 2004 at 20:16, William Robb wrote: I just believe that the same haze that causes the greenhouse

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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Re: Gas Guzzlers I like sunny days. I don't like hazy days. I don't like cloudy days. Sun makes me happy. So, anything that makes less sun makes me sad, irrespective of greenhouse eff

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- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Re: Gas Guzzlers I like sunny days. I don't like hazy days. I don't like cloudy days. Sun makes me happy. So, anything that makes less sun makes me sad, irrespective of greenhouse effect (or lack ther

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I dispute your disputation. ;-) I saw a Scientific American article about transportation a few years ago, and Jet transports are much more efficient than any gas powered ground vehicles because they can move such enormous amounts of cargo. Of course, ships are not counted here, which are even

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>> No wonder America has some of the worst accident figures in the world. Not nearly as bad as some though. China tops the poll with some 106,000 deaths in three quarters of a MILLION RTAs per year. Mind you, out of a population of 1.2 billion, it's a relative drop in the ocean. In Britain we l

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>> No wonder America has some of the worst accident figures in the world. >> ft> There are a lot of reasons that North America and the USA have bad ft> accident statistics, but I really don't think that street racing is a ft> significant statistic with regard thereto. Poor driving habits, ft> le

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Safety equipment is heavy, and any vehicle that could do the entire race without refueling at the current pace would have to be light... mike wilson wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: Fuel economy in a RACE car? Not even a blip on the chart. A meaningless goal. Only because the rules are skewed against

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If not now he would soon be... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "John Francis" Subject: Re: Re: Gas Guzzlers The race cars I watch most closely burn Methanol. Drink as much of that as you want - I'm not touching it, though. John, are you blind to the j

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Hi, > > From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/10/26 Tue PM 10:39:04 GMT > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: OT -- Justification for "Waste" (was Re: Gas Guzzlers) > > A lot of this seems somehow... backwards. Indeed.

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:16:34 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just believe that the same haze that causes the greenhouse effect > also reflects significant energy back into space. > > Less solar energy reaches the surface as a result, which makes the > greenhouse effect to be

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On 26 Oct 2004 at 20:16, William Robb wrote: > I just believe that the same haze that causes the greenhouse effect > also reflects significant energy back into space. > > Less solar energy reaches the surface as a result, which makes the > greenhouse effect to be rather self regulating. An int

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:10:58 -0400, Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you also take into account the mileage, they're not that bad. Good point. Us North Americas tend, I believe, to put a lot of miles under our belt. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-B

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- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Re: Gas Guzzlers That is, if you believe in the greenhouse effect, which I know that some here don't. I just believe that the same haze that causes the greenhouse effect also reflects significant energy back in

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If you also take into account the mileage, they're not that bad. frank theriault wrote: There are a lot of reasons that North America and the USA have bad accident statistics,

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:07:02 +0100, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So the kids racing each other on Saturday night all over the States > thought that up all by themselves? Actually, Mike, they did. Sanctioned drag racing started off as kids in the 40's and 50's racing their hotrods

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:38:48 -0400, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are many activities (music) that have no real benefit except that > someone exnjoys it. > > I was a bit puzzled by your comment about jumbo jets. They are > actually pretty efficient even though they use a lot

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:34:58 -0400, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The cars that burn 16 gallons on a single drag racing run run use a > fuel that's a mixture of nitromethane and methanol, not gasoline. > What's more, the amount of fuel used by all motorsports combined in an > entire y

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- Original Message - From: "John Francis" Subject: Re: Re: Gas Guzzlers The race cars I watch most closely burn Methanol. Drink as much of that as you want - I'm not touching it, though. John, are you blind to the joys of drinking methanol? WW

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- Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers By some quirk of French law they are not considered automobiles, so people with suspended licenses buy them. I think it is a quirk of Canadian law that considers them automobiles. They are cute, and sure

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- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Still produces carbon dioxide. Plant food. William Robb

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- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers So Bill want's to carry a bikini-wearing girl eating watermelon in the back of his truck? A girl eating watermelon? Wearing a bikini? Tom, you read too much cheap sci fi novels. William Robb

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- Original Message - From: "Caveman" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers It's more rewarding to carry a snowmobile instead Certainly more practical where I live. William Robb I am pretty sure I could carry one in the back of my truck.

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Don't worry Mishka. It's a cheap blend. Comes in plastic bottles. On Oct 26, 2004, at 8:19 PM, Mishka wrote: i am depressed -- such a waste. still, i hope it's not single malt... mishka On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:12:41 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Be impressed. They burn alcohol, Mo

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Mishka wrote: i am depressed -- such a waste. still, i hope it's not single malt... mishka Well, if it's a requirement, I have a couple of recommendations for him to use! keith whaley (Not ALL single malts are ambrosia...) On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:12:41 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

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I suspect that we are generally in pretty close agreement here. Just a couple of things to help us understand each other better. From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I *think* I'm still with you, since I said that such intangibles as the arist's happiness or the audience's happiness co

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The race cars I watch most closely burn Methanol. Drink as much of that as you want - I'm not touching it, though. Mishka mused: > > i am depressed -- such a waste. still, i hope it's not single malt... > > mishka > > > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:12:41 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

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i am depressed -- such a waste. still, i hope it's not single malt... mishka On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:12:41 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Be impressed. They burn alcohol, Mother Natures fuel. > > William Robb > >

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Joseph Tainter mused: > > Way OT, but while we're at it... > > Re: Smart Cars > > One sees quite a few of these in Paris, and probably other congested > European cities, which is where they belong. I recall seeing them first > being advertised in London in late 1999. My mother's next door nei

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On Oct 26, 2004, at 6:11 PM, mike wilson wrote: _Then_ it was useful. Today, I think there are more important things to worry about than knocking a few thousandths of a second off the 1/4 mile. Fine, and you don't have to do it. I don't have to ride a motorcycle. Isn't freedom great? Paul

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Bob Blakely wrote: > A lot of this seems somehow... backwards. Hmm. Either because it is, or because I didn't draw clear lines between which parts of it are how I think things ought to be and which parts are how things appear to be now. > In a free society, people determine what activities benef

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A lot of this seems somehow... backwards. In a free society, people determine what activities benefit them according to whatever criteria they choose. In a tolerant society we let them. That is the essence of liberty. It's folly to assume that what you or I think is of no real benefit to us is a

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Way OT, but while we're at it... Re: Smart Cars One sees quite a few of these in Paris, and probably other congested European cities, which is where they belong. I recall seeing them first being advertised in London in late 1999. In January 2002 a French colleague took me to see his project in

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cbwaters wrote: Have you ever BEEN in a sportscar? Or a high performance sedan? How about revving the motor of a 32 roadster? I suppose there are those of us who get nothing out of these experiences and for whom a car is a car is a car. I for one, am not one of those. I've driven a two seat

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You'll see a lot of them throughout Europe and in Mexico, as well as other places. I think they're selling quite well. Paul William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Now, just what would a "...ridiculous littl

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cbwaters wrote: - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" So the kids racing each other on Saturday night all over the States > thought that up all by themselves? Mike, Have you ever BEEN in a sportscar? Or a high performance sedan? How about revving the motor of a 32 roadster? I supp

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cbwaters wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Fuel economy in a RACE car? Not even a blip on the chart. A meaningless goal. Keith, this is a VERY outdated statement. MOST races are won these days in large part due the car's ability to burn just a bit less fuel than it's co

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- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" So the kids racing each other on Saturday night all over the States > thought that up all by themselves? Mike, Have you ever BEEN in a sportscar? Or a high performance sedan? How about revving the motor of a 32 roadster? I suppose there are t

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- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Fuel economy in a RACE car? Not even a blip on the chart. A meaningless goal. Keith, this is a VERY outdated statement. MOST races are won these days in large part due the car's ability to burn just a bit less fuel than it's competitors. (Drag

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Keith Whaley wrote: Ha, ha, hah... That's sure a teeny car, alright! And, it's "Mercedes connection" is that M-B developed it back in the early '90s. It's being made by Micro Compact Car smart GmbH, Germany since 1998, and some outfit in France. They were developed and tested right here in Southe

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er business is even more competitive than the car manufacturing business, makers of parts are always looking for a way to make something stronger and lighter. > William Robb wrote: > > > > > - Original Message ----- From: > > Subject: Re: Re: Gas Guzzlers > &g

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Steve Desjardins wrote: There are many activities (music) that have no real benefit except that someone exnjoys it. I was a bit puzzled by your comment about jumbo jets. They are actually pretty efficient even though they use a lot of fuel because they move so much stuff. They are certainly more

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Keith Whaley wrote: Fuel economy in a RACE car? Not even a blip on the chart. A meaningless goal. Only because the rules are skewed against it. An (eg)F1 car that could match pace and run the whole race without refuelling would be a world leader at the moment. Benefits? People are entertained,

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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Re: Gas Guzzlers It's not exactly promoting fuel economy, is it? Plus, neither of the chemicals are exactly pleasant to handle or store. Being somewhat of a sceptic by nature, I want to see some benefit from an activity

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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Re: Gas Guzzlers Hi, Talking about gas guzzlers, I watched a drag racing programme the other week. One of the guys with the fast cars pointed out that he uses 16 gallons of fuel per run. "To put it in perspective&quo

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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Now, just what would a "...ridiculous little Mercedes Benz Stupid car" be? I'm afraid I can't see past your prejudice... Be afraid. http://www.smart.com/ I am pr

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So Bill want's to carry a bikini-wearing girl eating watermelon in the back of his truck? Tom C. From: Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:29:13 -0400 It's more rewarding to ca

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It's more rewarding to carry a snowmobile instead William Robb wrote: http://www.smart.com/ I am pretty sure I could carry one in the back of my truck.

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Definitely. I just meant in terms of efficiency. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/26/2004 12:14:05 PM >>> - Original Message - From: "Steve Desjard

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Keith Whaley wrote: > And, it's "Mercedes connection" is that M-B developed it back in the > early '90s. > It's being made by Micro Compact Car smart GmbH, Germany since 1998, and > some outfit in France. France? I thought the other partner was (an offspring of) Swatch, Switz

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Keith Whaley wrote: >> Being somewhat of a sceptic by nature, I want to see some benefit from an >> activity like this before I feel like endorsing it. Sheer enjoyment from >> mechanical things, I can get from stuff already in existence. The benefits >> from present day drag racing seem to be wh

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- Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There are many activities (music) that have no real benefit except that > someone exnjoys it. > > I was a bit puzzled by your comment about jumbo jets. They are > actually pretty efficient even though they use a lot of

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, as well as other places. I think they're selling quite well. Paul > > > William Robb wrote: > > > > > - Original Message ----- From: "Keith Whaley" > > Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers > > > > > > >> Now, just what would

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William Robb wrote: > Be afraid. > > http://www.smart.com/ > I am pretty sure I could carry one in the back of my truck. Car? Nah!! This is the self-propelled spare wheel option for a 560SEL. Any time you see one, there will be a big Merc with the boot open with a flat tyre nearby. Malcolm

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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Now, just what would a "...ridiculous little Mercedes Benz Stupid car" be? I'm afraid I can't see past your prejudice... Be afraid. > http://www.smart.com/ H

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i, > > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/10/26 Tue AM 10:34:58 GMT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers > > The cars that burn 16 gallons on a single drag racing run run use a > fuel that's a mixture of nitromethane and methanol,

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2004/10/26 Tue AM 10:34:58 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers The cars that burn 16 gallons on a single drag racing run run use a fuel that's a mixture of nitromethane and methanol, not gasoli

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- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers Now, just what would a "...ridiculous little Mercedes Benz Stupid car" be? I'm afraid I can't see past your prejudice... Be afraid. http://www.smart.com/ I am pretty sure I could car

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- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Re: Gas Guzzlers It's not exactly promoting fuel economy, is it? Plus, neither of the chemicals are exactly pleasant to handle or store. Being somewhat of a sceptic by nature, I want to see some benefit from an activity like this before I

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- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Re: Gas Guzzlers Obviously not a Smart car. Thats what they are called. MB just started importing them to these parts. I don't think in my neck of the woods they are a Smart car, though I do hope to be proven wrong. William Robb

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- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Re: Gas Guzzlers Hi, Talking about gas guzzlers, I watched a drag racing programme the other week. One of the guys with the fast cars pointed out that he uses 16 gallons of fuel per run. "To put it in perspective" he said &quo

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stay home and read. Paul PS: I'm sure that the drag racing sanctioning bodies are not awaiting your endorsement . > Hi, > > > > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2004/10/26 Tue AM 10:34:58 GMT > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: R

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Hi, > > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/10/26 Tue AM 10:34:58 GMT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers > > The cars that burn 16 gallons on a single drag racing run run use a > fuel that's a mixture of nitromethane and met

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The cars that burn 16 gallons on a single drag racing run run use a fuel that's a mixture of nitromethane and methanol, not gasoline. What's more, the amount of fuel used by all motorsports combined in an entire year is a drop in the bucket compared to what is used in a single day by commercial

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, just what would a "...ridiculous little Mercedes Benz Stupid car" be? I'm afraid I can't see past your prejudice... Obviously not a Smart car. "A" class? I fitted four adults with enough luggage and kit for a week's ice-climbing into a Mercedes A-class once. And th

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Hi, Talking about gas guzzlers, I watched a drag racing programme the other week. One of the guys with the fast cars pointed out that he uses 16 gallons of fuel per run. "To put it in perspective" he said "if you put 16 buckets of fuel on the ground, I burn it in my run faster than you can ki

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> > From: Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/10/26 Tue AM 09:54:13 GMT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Gas Guzzlers > > > > William Robb wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Caveman" > > Sub

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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Caveman" Subject: OT: Gas Guzzlers Now you'll understand why many people panic when noticing they're tailgated by one. Especially when the gals are obviously looking in the vanity mirror while talking on the cell phone and using the lipsti

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- Original Message - From: "Caveman" Subject: OT: Gas Guzzlers Now you'll understand why many people panic when noticing they're tailgated by one. Especially when the gals are obviously looking in the vanity mirror while talking on the cell phone and using the lipstick. You wanna see