RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? I'm talking about the DA 12-24, which is a very fine optic and probably better than both the K and A 15 primes.The DA 14/2.8 is almost certainly even better. I'm also talking about the upcoming DA* lenses, which may well be better than any

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
se kind of trades. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 12:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >If Pentax were to go to a larger sensor

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Annie probably clubbed her upside the head a few times too many:-). Paul On Feb 3, 2007, at 7:33 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > Supposedly the rumour comes from one of Annie Leibovitz's assistants. > > -Adam > > Paul Stenquist wrote: >> It's probably a rumor initiated by hand wringers and chicken littles

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Adam Maas
Supposedly the rumour comes from one of Annie Leibovitz's assistants. -Adam Paul Stenquist wrote: > It's probably a rumor initiated by hand wringers and chicken littles. > I'm sure there as many or more of both on the Canon side as there are > on the Pentax side. > Paul > On Feb 3, 2007, at 7:2

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/2/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >It's probably a rumor initiated by hand wringers and chicken littles. >I'm sure there as many or more of both on the Canon side as there are >on the Pentax side. Truly. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Past

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's probably a rumor initiated by hand wringers and chicken littles. I'm sure there as many or more of both on the Canon side as there are on the Pentax side. Paul On Feb 3, 2007, at 7:24 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > Cotty wrote: >> On 3/2/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>> BTW: Can

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: > On 3/2/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> BTW: Canon is rumored to be considering a new lens mount for the >> (supposedly 22-megapixel) 1Ds-III. > > ROTFL > That is the rumour. I put as much stock in that as you do though. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/2/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > >BTW: Canon is rumored to be considering a new lens mount for the >(supposedly 22-megapixel) 1Ds-III. ROTFL -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 04/02/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This debate goes nowhere ... it has gone around and around too many > times already. It's called a discussion, part of the reason most of us are here I've venture to suggest. > Take pictures instead. Surely I can converse with my PDML b

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm talking about the DA 12-24, which is a very fine optic and probably better than both the K and A 15 primes.The DA 14/2.8 is almost certainly even better. I'm also talking about the upcoming DA* lenses, which may well be better than any of the FA lenses ever produced. They will certain

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 3, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > If Pentax had delivered a 6-8MP body with the functionality of the > K10D but significantly improved noise, DR and sensitivity over the > existing 6MP bodies do you think it would have been the short term hit > that the K10D has? > > Do you

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 04/02/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would have to auto crop to 10 t0 12 megapixels to make me and > other DA lens owners happy. If Pentax had delivered a 6-8MP body with the functionality of the K10D but significantly improved noise, DR and sensitivity over the existing 6MP

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
It would have to auto crop to 10 t0 12 megapixels to make me and other DA lens owners happy. Which means it would have to be a full frame sensor on the order of the top of the line camera, which means it would be a $6000 camera. All of that is reason to believe it won't happen. But I'll be

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 04/02/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really hope your wrong Bill. So do I, a FF sensor under a K-mount with DA lens detection and the potential to auto-crop to 6-8 MP APS would be near ideal. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
pport full frame. Perhaps they will >> support 1.3 crop, which would be find. But full frame ain't gonna >> happen. The cards have already been dealt. >> Paul >> On Feb 3, 2007, at 11:08 AM, William Robb wrote: >> >>> >>> - Original Message --

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >If Pentax were to go to a larger sensor tomorrow, I'd weigh whether I >needed it and what lenses I'd need to support it. Then buy them if I >felt there was an advantage. > >The K10D and *ist DS would still be working so I wouldn't be 'stranded'. Of course. All this ta

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: >I expect any larger than APS-C sensor cameras from Pentax will have > a 645 mount. I think just the opposite: 645 mount is dead. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:34 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? - Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > Your probably

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
dont believe this will be the case at all. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:57 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? No. If Pentax were to go to a larger se

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Not rational at all, see my last post. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:46 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? Whoa, wait a minute Godders. That way too

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread David Savage
hey don't support full frame. Perhaps they will > support 1.3 crop, which would be find. But full frame ain't gonna > happen. The cards have already been dealt. > Paul > On Feb 3, 2007, at 11:08 AM, William Robb wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - &g

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
They probably know where they think they are headed. The question is, who will do the thinking in the future. -- Bruce Friday, February 2, 2007, 9:16:32 PM, you wrote: DIS> On 03/02/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If Pentax was going to go full frame, they wouldn't be discont

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
My dick is big enough already. ]'-) G On Feb 3, 2007, at 7:46 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Whoa, wait a minute Godders. That way too rational for the PDML. When > are you going to learn? We want to see some hand wringing and sensor > envy. :-)) > Paul > On Feb 3, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
obb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "David Savage" > Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > > >>> >>> I expect any larger than APS-C sensor cameras from Pentax will >>> have a 645 >>> mount. >>> >>> Willia

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread David Savage
On 2/4/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "David Savage" > Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > > > >> > >> I expect any larger than APS-C sensor cameras from Pentax will have a 645 > >> m

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? >> >> I expect any larger than APS-C sensor cameras from Pentax will have a 645 >> mount. >> >> William Robb > > I really hope your wrong Bill. > Think of t

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread David Savage
On 2/4/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > > > > Your probably right. > > > > If Pentax ever go the 35mm FF route they'll probably do what Ni

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Whoa, wait a minute Godders. That way too rational for the PDML. When are you going to learn? We want to see some hand wringing and sensor envy. :-)) Paul On Feb 3, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > No. > > If Pentax were to go to a larger sensor tomorrow, I'd weigh whether I > neede

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > Your probably right. > > If Pentax ever go the 35mm FF route they'll probably do what Nikon has > done, WRT supporting APS lenses. > I expect any larger than APS-C sensor camer

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? >, I might buy some DA type > lenses I cant get otherwise like an extreme wide or extreme wide zoom, > but thats about > it for me. Thats pretty much what I am doing. With one

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
No. If Pentax were to go to a larger sensor tomorrow, I'd weigh whether I needed it and what lenses I'd need to support it. Then buy them if I felt there was an advantage. The K10D and *ist DS would still be working so I wouldn't be 'stranded'. All the DA lenses I've purchased have performed

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 04:16:32PM +1100, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 03/02/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If Pentax was going to go full frame, they wouldn't be discontinuing > > all their full-frame lenses. All the new lenses on the horizon are > > DA. That's a clue as to

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Paul Stenquist Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? If Pentax was going to go full frame, they wouldn't be discontinuing all their full-frame lenses. All the new lenses on the horizon are DA. That's a clue as to where

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread David Savage
Your probably right. If Pentax ever go the 35mm FF route they'll probably do what Nikon has done, WRT supporting APS lenses. Cheers, Dave On 2/3/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You don't abandon a new product line. Takeover or no. I've been there. > Paul > On Feb 3, 2007, at 12

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread David Savage
What are you after? I have a couple of lenses that I'd be willing to part with. Cheers, Dave On 2/3/07, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Man, the lens pickens are SLIM... There's like three lenses total at KEH, > Ebay looks to have been picked over like last week's kill, and nothing at >

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread David Savage
gt; David Savage > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:46 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > > > On 2/3/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Aren't any of you guys even the least bit concerned > > that if/whe

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
You don't abandon a new product line. Takeover or no. I've been there. Paul On Feb 3, 2007, at 12:16 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 03/02/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If Pentax was going to go full frame, they wouldn't be discontinuing >> all their full-frame lenses. All

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/02/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If Pentax was going to go full frame, they wouldn't be discontinuing > all their full-frame lenses. All the new lenses on the horizon are > DA. That's a clue as to where Pentax is headed. I seriously doubt Pentax really knows where it's head

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
wise like an extreme wide or extreme wide zoom, > but thats about > it for me. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > David Savage > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:46 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
otherwise like an extreme wide or extreme wide zoom, but thats about it for me. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? On 2/3/07, J

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
A lens, you are taking somewhat of a risk > that you might seriously regret it later arent you? > > JCO > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > Godfrey DiGiorgi > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 9:17 PM > To: P

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm thinking about selling my K85/1.8. It might bring enough to fund a 77 limited or a DA 70. Paul On Feb 2, 2007, at 9:17 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Yup, Pentax's success with the K10D and K100D has lenses flying off > the shelves. > > I'm selling my Zenitar 16/2.8 FE, Pentax-A Rear Converte

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread David Savage
On 2/3/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aren't any of you guys even the least bit concerned > that if/when Pentax goes to an affordable FF digital slr you will be > stranded with a bunch of DA lenses that cant do FF? Slightly, but I don't let that stop me if the DA has a feature th

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread Stan Halpin
Hey Cory! How much do you have? I am real real close to a final decision to sell the following classics: FA* 80-200/2.8 (may already be spoken for) A 100/2.8 macro A 20/2.8 Would these satisfy your lens lust for a week or two? Stan On Feb 2, 2007, at 5:28 PM, cbwaters wrote: > Man, the lens p

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread cbwaters
No. - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > Aren't any of you guys even the least bit concerned >

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
arent you? JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 9:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? Yup, Pentax's success with the K10D and K100D has lenses flying

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "cbwaters" Subject: NO FS this Friday? > How's a guy supposed to enable himself these days? > > I buy new ones William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yup, Pentax's success with the K10D and K100D has lenses flying off the shelves. I'm selling my Zenitar 16/2.8 FE, Pentax-A Rear Converter 2x-S, and might sell the FA135/2.8 if I convince myself that the DA50-200/4-5.6 handles my need for a long lens well enough. I'm in the "purge" part of

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread David J Brooks
Some times, plastic is NOT our friend. DaveWe're number 3, we're number 3 etc On 2/2/07, John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Man, the lens pickens are SLIM... There's like three lenses total > > at KEH, Ebay looks to have been picked over like last week's kill, > > and nothing at a

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread John Whittingham
> Man, the lens pickens are SLIM... There's like three lenses total > at KEH, Ebay looks to have been picked over like last week's kill, > and nothing at all offered on the PDML... How's a guy supposed to > enable himself these days Blame the K10D, selling like hot cakes in the UK, Canon might

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-02 Thread Tim Øsleby
You could treat yourself with a new FA* 600/4 Already have one? Ok, buy another for backup. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cbwaters Sent: 3. februar 2007 00:28 To: Pdml@pdml.net Subject: NO FS

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