On 8 June 2010 18:29, steve harley wrote:
> On 2010-06-08 10:28 , Bruce Dayton wrote:
>>
>> Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control?
>>
>
> it has nothing to do with Apple -- if the school were using Windows it seems
> clear they'd have a similar policy; i've seen the same kind of policy (for
>
On 6/8/2010 12:28 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control?
/Strict/ control, (ask Cotty).
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Subject: Re: OT - Abobe Woes
On 2010-06-08 12:18 , Bruce Dayton wrote:
If you could see the forest through the trees, I think you would see
it as sensible.
i see a forest of attitude through trees of po
I bow to the Apple god who must always be vindicated. I'm done.
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Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 11:37:24 AM, you wrote:
sh> On 2010-06-08 12:18 , Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> If you could see the forest through the trees, I think you would see
>> it as sensible.
sh> i see a forest of attitude thro
On 2010-06-08 12:18 , Bruce Dayton wrote:
If you could see the forest through the trees, I think you would see
it as sensible.
i see a forest of attitude through trees of poorly-aimed snark
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If you could see the forest through the trees, I think you would see
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Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 10:47:23 AM, you wrote:
sh> On 2010-06-08 11:32 , Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> Seem to have touched a raw nerve.
>>
sh> eh? just wasn't a sensible comment
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Seem to have touched a raw nerve.
eh? just wasn't a sensible comment
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Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 10:29:04 AM, you wrote:
sh> On 2010-06-08 10:28 , Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control?
>>
sh> it has nothing to do with Apple -- if the school were using Windows it
sh> seems clear they'd have a si
On 2010-06-08 10:28 , Bruce Dayton wrote:
Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control?
it has nothing to do with Apple -- if the school were using Windows it
seems clear they'd have a similar policy; i've seen the same kind of
policy (for Windows and/or Mac) in various environments with share
On 8/6/10, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:
>See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil...
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Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 9:35:53 AM, you wrote:
C> On 8/6/10, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control?
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>Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control?
Ridiculous!
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Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 6:19:51 AM, you wrote:
JS> This is probably going to be my last on Mac vs PC for now. I'm getting
JS> busy at school and barely have time to follow the list.
JS> There are about 70 students in my class, broken into th
On 8/6/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
>The network is also set up to be Mac only, to indoctrinate the kids
>properly from the beginning
John, you're getting the idea ;-)
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This is probably going to be my last on Mac vs PC for now. I'm getting
busy at school and barely have time to follow the list.
There are about 70 students in my class, broken into three sections.
Among the 70, there are maybe 10 who are over the age of 21. All the
rest are right out of high sc
I've got nothing useful to add here but, as this thread seems to be
running out of puff, I just thought I'd try to get it to stagger on a
bit longer...
Cheers
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On Fri, 0
On Jun 4, 2010, at 11:10 , steve harley wrote:
On 2010-06-04 00:23 , John Sessoms wrote:
However the software doesn't give me the choice of NO. It only
gives me
the choice to change the configuration so as to make the drive
useless
or to cancel.
If this were Windoze software, there would
On Jun 4, 2010, at 00:37 , AlunFoto wrote:
2010/6/4 Joseph McAllister :
If you wish to flaunt your dictionary acumen by practically quoting
it
verbatim on me, save it. I looked it up before I wrote it, and
decided it
was too narrow a definition. I stand by mine in defiance!
Sorry Joe. Us
On Jun 4, 2010, at 10:57 , steve harley wrote:
On 2010-06-04 01:48 , AlunFoto wrote:
Since I don't own a Mac, why would I have wasted money on a Time
Machine? :-)
But truth be told, I investigated the possiblilty of using a TM to
back up my windows computers.
you seem have Time Machine con
On 2010-06-04 00:23 , John Sessoms wrote:
However the software doesn't give me the choice of NO. It only gives me
the choice to change the configuration so as to make the drive useless
or to cancel.
If this were Windoze software, there would be some way to turn the
software off.
i think this i
On 2010-06-04 01:48 , AlunFoto wrote:
Since I don't own a Mac, why would I have wasted money on a Time Machine? :-)
But truth be told, I investigated the possiblilty of using a TM to
back up my windows computers.
really? Time Machine is software built into Mac OS X, you can't buy it
separately
On Jun 4, 2010, at 3:48 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
>
> Then one day shit happens, and the Mac is somehow beyond repair and/or
> retrieval. As a newbie I really don't know how to cope, so let's say I
> take my TM to the computer shop, and tell them I'll buy a new Mac from
> them on the condition that the
On Jun 4, 2010, at 2:23 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>>
>> You can do a screen shot, a window shot, or a selected area shot of any
>> proportion or size with a Mac, either through keyboard shortcuts, or using
>> the "included with the O/S" little program called "Grab". Can't show you
>> here,
I don't think you'd have much trouble with Adobe on LR. I originally
bought
v1 for my 32-bit Windows XP and have just installed LR it on the new
64-bit
W7 box from the same installation media - now v2 - followed by all the
upgrades online. The original media also contain the Mac versions, so I
2010/6/4 Bob W :
>
> I don't think you'd have much trouble with Adobe on LR. I originally bought
> v1 for my 32-bit Windows XP and have just installed LR it on the new 64-bit
> W7 box from the same installation media - now v2 - followed by all the
> upgrades online. The original media also contain
2010/6/4 Bob W :
> There are more people out there than you might realise who haven't a clue,
> and don't care. And why should they? The computers should work more like the
> TV and the toaster, and so should the systems that we IT people make them
> use.
And marketing try to tote that, both Micro
Oh, and of course I will most likely run into a problem with Adobe's
bitchy DRM on LR, but that's beside the point just now, right? We're
pretty much in agreement that Adobe would be well off doing something
about that. Let's just assume the shop can fix that one for me.
What say you?
I don't
2010/6/3 steve harley :
> don't know about elsewhere, but the U.S. monumentally botches driver
> education and testing; it considers a continuous massacre on the roads to be
> a necessity for preserving basic freedoms; little do the victims realize
> that they are martyrs for the cause
Sorry to he
It is my opinion, however, that anyone who thinks they can go out and buy
their first computer, plug it in and start using it without reading the
manual(s), attending a class, joining a support group, and more, is
woefully assuming they are superhuman, Windows or Mac.
or they might not hav
2010/6/4 Joseph McAllister :
> On Jun 3, 2010, at 04:40 , AlunFoto wrote:
>
>> 2010/6/3 paul stenquist :
>>>
>>> I've restored from Time Machine on a number of occasions without
>>> difficulty. It seems to do an excellent job without my having to take any
>>> real action. It even backs up my encryp
2010/6/4 Joseph McAllister :
> If you wish to flaunt your dictionary acumen by practically quoting it
> verbatim on me, save it. I looked it up before I wrote it, and decided it
> was too narrow a definition. I stand by mine in defiance!
Sorry Joe. Used to teach aquaculture and physiology in techn
On 4 June 2010 08:11, David Mann wrote:
> If it isn't your cup of tea, go have a coffee instead. You'll still get a
> caffeine hit, it just tastes different.
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On Jun 4, 2010, at 00:03 , AlunFoto wrote:
2010/6/4 Joseph McAllister :
And not by osmosis, my friend, not by osmosis.
:-)
Certainly not. Especially if you consider what actually happens in
osmosis; which is the passage of very small molecules across a passive
membrane. In practice, only wa
On Jun 3, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Cotty wrote:
> Strange as it may seem, there are plenty of people in the world who
> would like to use a computer for various tasks - say, accessing the
> internet, Skyping distant relatives, writing a letter to the bank - but
> who are not the least bit interested in u
2010/6/4 Joseph McAllister :
>
> Thank you for acknowledging my presence, Jostein!
>
> Did I hit anything?
A 100% hit rate, I think. All messages threaded properly even in gmail. :-)
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On 4/6/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Give you another one. On Windoze, I can do a print screen and then paste
>the screen-shot into paint or Photoshop, crop to the part I want, save
>it as a jpeg and insert that jpeg into a Word (or Open Office Writer
>document as an illustration.
2010/6/4 Joseph McAllister :
>
> And not by osmosis, my friend, not by osmosis.
:-)
Certainly not. Especially if you consider what actually happens in
osmosis; which is the passage of very small molecules across a passive
membrane. In practice, only water molecules are small enough. Which
means t
From: Joseph McAllister
On Jun 3, 2010, at 21:36 , John Sessoms wrote:
> From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
>> "Based on my experience so far, it's easier to get the Windoze
>> computer to do what *I* want it to do right out of the box "
>> That is not my experience. Windoze loads a lot of crap that I
On 2010-06-03 22:36 , John Sessoms wrote:
None of the Mac gurus at school could figure out how to take a screen shot.
those aren't gurus; you can tell them control-command-shift-3, or
control-command-shift-4 to crop while taking; screenshot goes directly
to clipboard; if you want a file, don'
On 04/06/2010, Joseph McAllister wrote:
> Suppose your first camera was ever was a K20D. You'd be screwed up for years
> trying to figure out how and why it worked on your own, without at least
> reading the entire manual twelve times over. An intelligent person would
> seek help right off the ba
On Jun 3, 2010, at 21:36 , John Sessoms wrote:
From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
"Based on my experience so far, it's easier to get the Windoze
computer to do what *I* want it to do right out of the box "
That is not my experience. Windoze loads a lot of crap that I have
to
get rid of, and it makes
On Jun 3, 2010, at 05:18 , P. J. Alling wrote:
So you admit that Mac worship is a religion?
Not in the ecumenical sense, but yes. More of a fervor, I think. Like
sports! Yankees and Red Sox. Manchester vs… vs… whoever they are
versus in your neck of the planet.
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On Jun 3, 2010, at 04:56 , AlunFoto wrote:
Oh, and Joe McAllister has tried to win some branch of argument by
message precision bombing, I think.
Thank you for acknowledging my presence, Jostein!
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From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
"Based on my experience so far, it's easier to get the Windoze
computer to do what *I* want it to do right out of the box "
That is not my experience. Windoze loads a lot of crap that I have to
get rid of, and it makes it difficult to load non-MS programs and make
them
On Jun 3, 2010, at 04:40 , AlunFoto wrote:
2010/6/3 paul stenquist :
I've restored from Time Machine on a number of occasions without
difficulty. It seems to do an excellent job without my having to
take any real action. It even backs up my encrypted files and
enables restoration of them i
On Jun 3, 2010, at 03:08 , AlunFoto wrote:
2010/6/3 Cotty :
That fact that Apple (seems to) attracts users least likely to be
bothered with learning 'how' is far from a gripe - it is actually a
big
selling point, and indeed was such when the Mac was first launched.
My comment was not about
On 01/06/2010, John Francis wrote:
> .. I do get pissed off when, every time I open a .PDF file, I end up
> with a little taskbar notifier telling me there is an update available.
> I've tried to turn it off a couple of different ways, but it comes back.
It's actually fairly well behaved in the
On 03/06/2010 9:28 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
On the other hand, don't you think they've been in Hell long enough?
John has probably been in hell far longer than he would care to be.
Seriously Joe, your beloved Macs don't work any better than a PC of
equivalent component quality, and I su
On Jun 3, 2010, at 02:18 , AlunFoto wrote:
Or are there any Mac users here who can stand up and guarantee that a
Mac and a Time Machine will provide adequate backup of all user data
straight out of the box. From reading that famous document, the
manual, I'm not convinced.
No one can guarantee
On Jun 3, 2010, at 01:05 , Cotty wrote:
On 3/6/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
OMG it is a religion! I thought the concept was a joke.
All Windows users will burn in hell - no joke.
Love it !
On the other hand, don't you think they've been in Hell long enough?
Joseph McA
I thought I'd check in and see how it was going. I mean, how bad could it be?
I might never be able to use my iPod "Touch" again.
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From: Anthony Farr
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:03:25
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Subject: Re: OT - Abobe Woes
On 3 June 2
On 2010-06-03 02:47 , AlunFoto wrote:
The comparison to car driving crossed my mind too. Computers are
becoming tools every bit as ubiquitous as cars. However, most
societies require drivers to prove their skills by obtaining a license
before they can legally drive out of that parking lot. Maybe
On 2010-06-03 03:18 , AlunFoto wrote:
Or are there any Mac users here who can stand up and guarantee that a
Mac and a Time Machine will provide adequate backup of all user data
straight out of the box.
define "adequate backup" ... and just who would guarantee any backup
without a high-priced m
"There is no argument in the world that carries the hatred that a
religious belief does."
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On 6/3/2010 7:18 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
So you admit that Mac worship is a religion?
On 6/3/2010 12:35 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
On Jun 2, 2010, at 19:22 , P. J. Alling wrote:
This s
2010/6/3 Bruce Dayton :
> Wow! Mac fans have nipples? And I thought they just had dual
> 'cores'...
hehehe.
Apple + nipples = napples?
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Thursday, June 3, 2010, 1:15:18 AM, you wrote:
C> On 3/6/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>I'll be ok, I have a fire-retardant black polo-neck.
C> Any true mac fan has the apple logo branded on his chest. Across a nipple.
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Wow! Mac fans have nipples? And
Thanks Paul.
It's the best testimony for Time machine I've seen so far. :-)
Jostein
2010/6/3 P N Stenquist :
>
> On Jun 3, 2010, at 7:40 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
>
>> 2010/6/3 paul stenquist :
>>>
>>> I've restored from Time Machine on a number of occasions without
>>> difficulty. It seems to do an ex
2010/6/3 William Robb :
> And I confirmed it with another snide remark.
> Don't forget about that
Certainly not. Credits are due. :-)
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On Jun 3, 2010, at 7:40 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
2010/6/3 paul stenquist :
I've restored from Time Machine on a number of occasions without
difficulty. It seems to do an excellent job without my having to
take any real action. It even backs up my encrypted files and
enables restoration of them
On 03/06/2010 7:25 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
As you know, cars just work too.
Interestingly enough, I had to take my truck back to the dealer during
it's first rainstorm because I both couldn't get the windshield wipers
to work and also couldn't figure it out from the little drawing in the
ma
On 03/06/2010 5:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
I made a snide remark implying that Apple attract the most
tecnologiacally ignorant users
And I confirmed it with another snide remark.
Don't forget about that
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On 6/3/2010 9:19 AM, William Robb wrote:
On 03/06/2010 2:01 AM, Cotty wrote:
When you first got in a car, I presume you had no instruction whatsoever
and simple put your hands on the steering wheel expecting it to make a
loud noise and move forward?
My understanding is that is more or less
On 03/06/2010 2:01 AM, Cotty wrote:
When you first got in a car, I presume you had no instruction whatsoever
and simple put your hands on the steering wheel expecting it to make a
loud noise and move forward?
My understanding is that is more or less how Macs are sold.
"They just work"
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On 6/3/2010 9:03 AM, Anthony Farr wrote:
On 3 June 2010 22:47, P. J. Alling wrote:
OMG it is a religion! I thought the concept was a joke.
Well now you know.
This guy already knew, and dressed appropriately:
http://poorlydressed.com/2010/01/19/fashion-fail-think-differe
On 3 June 2010 22:47, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> OMG it is a religion! I thought the concept was a joke.
>>
>>
>
> Well now you know.
>
This guy already knew, and dressed appropriately:
http://poorlydressed.com/2010/01/19/fashion-fail-think-different-but-not-that-different/
or
http://tinyurl.c
On 6/3/2010 4:05 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 3/6/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
OMG it is a religion! I thought the concept was a joke.
All Windows users will burn in hell - no joke.
No they won't they /know/ they've served their time in hell.
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On 6/3/2010 4:55 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
2010/6/3 Cotty:
On 3/6/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
OMG it is a religion! I thought the concept was a joke.
All Windows users will burn in hell - no joke.
Sometimes it really gives a better perspective being atheis
On 6/3/2010 12:34 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 03/06/2010, Joseph McAllister wrote:
God, the rigidity of the mind of one who is schooled in the way of Windows
before seeing the true enlightened way of the Mac!
OMG it is a religion! I thought the concept was a joke.
Well now you
2010/6/3 AlunFoto :
> I made a snide remark implying that Apple attract the most
> tecnologiacally ignorant users by marketing...
Technologically, that would be. Fell under a spell, I guess... :-)
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So you admit that Mac worship is a religion?
On 6/3/2010 12:35 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
On Jun 2, 2010, at 19:22 , P. J. Alling wrote:
This still cracks me up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWxC8ezE4Dk
Every religion (W)(A) is filled with crackpots who deride other's in
hopes you w
2010/6/3 Brian Walters :
> Hmmm.
>
> I somewhaty innocently started this thread so I dip in now and then to
> try to understand how it's managed to develop into such a monolith.
>
> The trouble is, now I have no idea at all what any of you are talking
> about..
No worries, mate.
Some just fou
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 07:15 -0400, "paul stenquist"
wrote:
>
> On Jun 3, 2010, at 5:18 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
>
> > 2010/6/2 steve harley :
> >
> >> however Macs are extremely configurable for those who learn how; for
> >> example
> >> Time Machine may not be the best solution for photographers; am
2010/6/3 paul stenquist :
> I've restored from Time Machine on a number of occasions without difficulty.
> It seems to do an excellent job without my having to take any real action. It
> even backs up my encrypted files and enables restoration of them if they're
> lost or inadvertently altered.
On Jun 3, 2010, at 5:18 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
> 2010/6/2 steve harley :
>
>> however Macs are extremely configurable for those who learn how; for example
>> Time Machine may not be the best solution for photographers; among other
>> reasons, those who use Lightroom or Aperture may wind up storing
2010/6/3 Cotty :
> That fact that Apple (seems to) attracts users least likely to be
> bothered with learning 'how' is far from a gripe - it is actually a big
> selling point, and indeed was such when the Mac was first launched.
My comment was not about the quality of the _system_ but an
observati
On 3/6/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
>For those who learn how, nothing is difficult. My gripe with this was
>that Apple seem to attract the users least likely to be bothered with
>just that. Such a trust in any computer system seems quite unhealthy
>to me.
Strange as it may seem, ther
2010/6/2 steve harley :
> however Macs are extremely configurable for those who learn how; for example
> Time Machine may not be the best solution for photographers; among other
> reasons, those who use Lightroom or Aperture may wind up storing versions of
> databases that store versions, or users
2010/6/2 steve harley :
> i think Apple attempts to address these needs with an "appliance" approach
> rather than "study the user manual, practice, stress about it and maybe
> you'll get it right"; i personally believe that simplicity is overrated, but
> i also see that Apple's (and Microsoft's, a
2010/6/3 Cotty :
> On 3/6/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>OMG it is a religion! I thought the concept was a joke.
>
> All Windows users will burn in hell - no joke.
Sometimes it really gives a better perspective being atheist.
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2010/6/3 Joseph McAllister :
>> Doesn't say a thing about the quality of the system, of course. But
>> Apple will eventually find itself in trouble if they don't deliver to
>> this group.
>>
> They do.
>
> You can use your Mac (iMac, MacBook, Whatever) right out of the box. Just
> like you can driv
On 6/3/2010 11:05 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 3/6/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
OMG it is a religion! I thought the concept was a joke.
All Windows users will burn in hell - no joke.
See you there ;-).
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On Jun 3, 2010, at 5:17 AM, steve harley wrote:
> On 2010-06-02 04:06 , David Mann wrote:
>> For something that was created on a Mac, the system stores extra data that
>> associates the file with the program that created it.
>
> this was true until 10.6 ... starting with Snow Leopard, the creato
On 3/6/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I'll be ok, I have a fire-retardant black polo-neck.
Any true mac fan has the apple logo branded on his chest. Across a nipple.
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>
> All Windows users will burn in hell - no joke.
>
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On 03/06/2010, Cotty wrote:
> On 3/6/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >OMG it is a religion! I thought the concept was a joke.
>
> All Windows users will burn in hell - no joke.
And be forced to use a Mac for eternity I figure, dog help us.
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On 03/06/2010, Cotty wrote:
> When you first got in a car, I presume you had no instruction whatsoever
> and simple put your hands on the steering wheel expecting it to make a
> loud noise and move forward?
Fortunately no license is required to operate a toaster.
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On 3/6/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
>OMG it is a religion! I thought the concept was a joke.
All Windows users will burn in hell - no joke.
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On 2/6/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I've yet to see any of them to get an image to open in Photoshop on
>first try. Same problems I have ... Oops I clicked it and it's opened
>the wrong program. Close that one and drag it onto the Photoshop icon.
Bizarre. Something drastically w
On Jun 2, 2010, at 19:22 , P. J. Alling wrote:
This still cracks me up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWxC8ezE4Dk
Every religion (W)(A) is filled with crackpots who deride other's in
hopes you will follow their ideas, usually to your detriment in the
long run.
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Joseph
On 03/06/2010, Joseph McAllister wrote:
> God, the rigidity of the mind of one who is schooled in the way of Windows
> before seeing the true enlightened way of the Mac!
OMG it is a religion! I thought the concept was a joke.
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On Jun 2, 2010, at 18:50 , John Sessoms wrote:
You can do the same with a Windoze computer. Based on my experience
so far, it's easier to get the Windoze computer to do what *I* want
it to do right out of the box without reading the FM, than it is to
get the Mac to do what *I* want it to do
Oh John, you and your cronies really don't know how to use a
Macintosh, and should not be allowed near one, until you read the
manual. A PDF file on the install DVD. You might learn a thing or two.
Read on.
On Jun 2, 2010, at 18:35 , John Sessoms wrote:
From: Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1,
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Dayton"
Subject: Re: OT - Abobe Woes
If you have no complaints at all then you should get a Mac!
Sounds like a MARK ! to me.
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Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 7:56:
On 2010-06-02 19:50 , John Sessoms wrote:
The Mac won't allow me to kill the useless bullshit and it won't allow
me to hide it. And the manual is just LIES, ALL LIES!
you are clearly having a terrible time; i think you should give up; you
obviously don't have the patience to learn the very dif
On 2010-06-02 19:01 , John Sessoms wrote:
I saw something today about AT&T changing the T.O.S. for iPhones & iPods
today.
No more unlimited internet access.
it's going to save us $360/year ($15 x 2 phones x 12); i've used 900 MB
in the last 9 months; we mostly use wifi for net access -- Lo st
On 2010-06-02 20:15 , Paul Sorenson wrote:
As an iPhone user, I'm quite aware that they're different critters. The
point was, I don't need an iPad with a $30 add-on to display the images
from my camera.
i assume you don't carry around your cheapito just to display images
from your camera eith
On 02/06/2010 8:59 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
If you have no complaints at all then you should get a Mac!
I'd rather have no complaints
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Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 7:56:34 PM, you wrote:
WR> And that is not my experience at all. I just loaded Win7-64 onto my
WR> computer.
WR> Clean hard drive, fresh install.
WR> The only thing I had to remember to do was to prein
On 02/06/2010 7:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
"Based on my experience so far, it's easier to get the Windoze
computer to do what *I* want it to do right out of the box "
That is not my experience. Windoze loads a lot of crap that I have to
get rid of, and it makes it difficult to load non-MS
On 03/06/2010, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> You could see this one coming for a long time. The beauty and bane
> of the iPhone is how well and often it accesses the network without
> the user really thinking about it. The more they sell, the worse it
> gets. The question is whether this will end up ch
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