Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-31 Thread Ann Sanfedele
At this point i imagine only you and I and Jody are reading this :) I'm happy indeed Paul -- just need a few more places to roll out my bedding on my way to and from the Grand Canyon, and get the house all spiffed up for my friends who will be here while I'm gone. annsan PAUL STENQUIST wrote:

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-31 Thread Jody
Reading that 2 days later, I realise it may have been misconstrued as my attitude to photography. Actually it was to meaningless, endless surveys. But having read the replies so far, I apologise. I think this survey would have achieved some of the best replies ever. I am pretty impressed with the

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-31 Thread Jody
Sorry to be a touch holier than thou, but actually that is "sashimi" they have been enjoying for thousands of years. Sushi is the stuff rolled in rice and seaweed. Sashimi is the raw fish. It is a very common mistake. But I think we should stop now, I am getting major sushi (and sashimi) cravings

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-31 Thread Jody
I'm with Annsan. I thought it was a bit sad too, that he (I forget who) has to improve the view of the world through his photos. There is so much beauty in the world anyway, and the thought that maybe he hasn't seen as much of it as other people is a bit sad. Although it sounds a nice idea. I just

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > Bears and certain waterfowl have been eating sushi for thousands of > years. I think that would be sashimi. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http:/

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2001-08-30 Thread Jody
I'm sorry, but I have the need to go to bed :) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have the need to try and get unusual photographs. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-30 Thread Jody
Arrggghhh!! Not another one. --- Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. > > Since our man Mike appears to be busy elsewhere > right now, I thought I'd jump up here and give a > Mike-like assignment. All strictly voluntary, natch, > but the results could be interesting.

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-29 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
Bears and certain waterfowl have been eating sushi for thousands of years. Paul Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > Bob Walkden wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I don't think they ate sushi back in the FSA days, did they? > > Well I'm sure they did in Japan , Bob. > annsan > - > This message is from the Penta

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-29 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
Bob Walkden wrote: > > > What he's saying is: don't gild the lily; let the subject be itself, > and try to reveal it with utmost clarity. > But that's only one way of looking at something. Dali and Picasso certainly didn't subscribe to that, nor did Ansel Adams for that matter. Of course An

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob Walkden wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't think they ate sushi back in the FSA days, did they? Well I'm sure they did in Japan , Bob. annsan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Penta

RE: One Sentence

2001-08-29 Thread Anand DHUPKAR
>What is truly unfortunate is that so many people have become so >dogmatic about what they believe that they fail to understand or accept >the beliefs of others. >- i do agree with this and really feel the pain of it .. in all respects. ___

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-29 Thread Edmptx
In a message dated 8/29/2001 1:28:15 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Ed, > > Your post reminds me of an old quote: > > This is my way, > That is your way, > There is no such thing > As "The Way". > Ram Dass, IIRC > > --graywolf Precisely! Thanks, E

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-29 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
Shel wrote: > > > PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > > > > > and Shel objected to the premise of the sentence. > > No I didn't. I just asked for an explanation. I tried to answer your post from memory. I had opened it at work, and I'm unable to reply on that system, so I didn't have it in front o

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-28 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Ed, Your post reminds me of an old quote: This is my way, What is your way, There is no such thing As "The Way". Ram Dass, IIRC --graywolf Ed Matthew wrote: > > And he stated his subjective thought - not yours, not mine, his. > I stated mine - by the standards of many, it was

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-28 Thread Creature's Comfort
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > > > I enjoy using technical tools to make a more perfect version of those > > things I see. > > > and Shel objected to the premise of the sentence. No I didn't. I just asked for an explanation. I said that your comment was difficult for me to

RE: One Sentence

2001-08-28 Thread Kevin Thornsberry
: One Sentence Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > The photograph is never > going to replace > the reality - is never going to surpass it in beauty or in > ugliness or pain. > My point is that a photograph can surpass reality in beauty or ugliness or pain. So too, fine art. Do

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art? - safe to read :)

2001-08-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > Please don't be hurt. I didn't mean to be harsh, just emphatic. annsan replies: Ditto re my comments to you. Paul sez > I do > think the dawn photo is slightly enhanced from what I actually saw. The > color is more saturated due to a slight underexposure and the use

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-28 Thread Bob Blakely
Folks without opinions and passion for opinions are boring to me. Agree or disagree? Who cares! Stir the blood! The heat of debate brings out views we might never otherwise see. Regards, Bob... --- "In the carboniferous epoch we were promised perpetual peace. They sw

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Ed - I was in a bad place myself when I wrote it - and sent it before I realised it went public -- then it seemed it should stay that way just to clear the air. I didn't think I'd get pummeled for it. I was not the first to respond, either. My original response was "IF you really mean that it i

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-28 Thread Bucky
What is the sound of one hand clapping? Very well said. > Since the original request was for one-liners stating a personal reason for > photography, why did you or anyone else critique his statement? His reason > need not be yours; neither does it need your approval (or mine). A modicum of > res

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-28 Thread Edmptx
In a message dated 8/28/2001 2:18:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Yup - but you sounded angry - guess we both did. sigh. > Happy shooting. > > annsan > Since the original request was for one-liners stating a personal reason for photography, why did you or an

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > > > > I wish you didn't sound so angry about all of this - it is > > hard to communicate > > here sometimes with only type and not expression and tone. > > I feel I use rather > > colorful language to get my point across but I think I'm > > b

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-28 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > I wish you didn't sound so angry about all of this - it is > hard to communicate > here sometimes with only type and not expression and tone. > I feel I use rather > colorful language to get my point across but I think I'm > being dispassionate and > thoughtful in rel

RE: One Sentence

2001-08-28 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich
I photograph because I like to capture the beauty I see. Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: One Sentence - Yeah but is it art?

2001-08-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > The photograph is never going to replace the reality - is never going to surpass it in beauty or in ugliness or pain. > > > My point is that a photograph can surpass reality in beauty or ugliness > or pain. So too, fine art. Do you believe th

RE: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Amita Guha
> I take photographs so I can collect things that are too big, too > expensive, too delicate, or > unavailable for me to take home with me. You know, the first time I read this sentence I swear I thought you meant expensive lenses and such. :) I think it's time for me to go to bed... --Amita

RE: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread John Coyle
On Monday, August 27, 2001 1:48 PM, Doug Brewer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Hi. > SNIP > It's very simple: Write one sentence. In that sentence, tell us why you > photograph. No restrictions on sentence length. It can be simple and > declarative. It can be a Faulknerian odyssey. It just need

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: (mainly in response to annsan) > > Aside from my sloppy comparative use of the absolute "perfect." (it > _was_early in the morning :-), I meant exactly what I said. And it is > certainly not sad, at least not to me. Will you substitute, perhaps, "unfortunate" for sad? We

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele
om: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: One Sentence > > > > I enjoy using technical tools to make a more perfect version of those > > > things I see. > > > I

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Doug Franklin
My memory sucks, and it's getting worse as I get older. :-) TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Ken Archer
I take photographs to capture a magical moment in time that I, and I hope others, would want to relive in days to come. -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscri

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Rfsindg
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > I enjoy using technical tools to make a more perfect version of those > things I see. > I don't find that strange. Since the ancient Greeks, from Thucidies to Plato, we have been discussing image and reality. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-D

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
An excellent question Doug. If one really knows what one wants out of something one should be able to condense it down to one brief sentence. The closest I can come, and it only covers first base, is: I take photographs so I can collect things that are too big, too expensive, too delicate, or

RE: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread D. Sheetz
I enjoy the challenge of trying to take an excellent photogragh, from both the technical and creative standpoint. Dan Sheetz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Brewer Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
Aside from my sloppy comparative use of the absolute "perfect." (it _was_early in the morning :-), I meant exactly what I said. And it is certainly not sad, at least not to me. If your reality is always beautiful, always worth preserving exactly as it is, then you are a very fortunate woman. My re

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Bucky
Isn't that a bit of an overreaction? What can possibly be "very sad" about it? - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:32 PM Subject: Re: One Sentence > > I

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > I enjoy using technical tools to make a more perfect version of those > things I see. > and Shel objected to the premise of the sentence. Unfortunately, I was unable to reply when I had Shel's message in hand, but his main contention seemed to be that a photograph

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > I enjoy using technical tools to make a more perfect version of those > things I see. > I hope you don't realy mean quite that - very sad, if so. annsan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the di

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Chris Niesmertelny
It's very simple: Write one sentence. In that sentence, tell us why you photograph. I want to capture for permanence a vista or moment in time that I I see in my mind's eye. Chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Bob Blakely
Well, then, you don't need film - or a camera fro that matter. Just a viewfinder! Think of the savings! From: "Robert Woerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I notice subtle details through the viewfinder of a camera that I might > otherwise miss through casual observation. - This message is from the

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Robert Woerner
I notice subtle details through the viewfinder of a camera that I might otherwise miss through casual observation. Rob Woerner - Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:48 PM Subject: One Sentence > Hi. > > Sinc

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters
I may want to see the people and things around me today, tomorrow. Cory Waters Atlanta, GA USA AIM = seebwaters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pu

RE: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]
Doug Brewer wrote: > Write one sentence. In that sentence, tell us why you photograph OK, I'm game. The answer could vary depending on when and where you ask, but if I had to distill it down to one essential sentence, it might be something like the following: I photograph in order to captur

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Cotty
My future aspirations based solely on the past. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. T

RE: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Richard Klein
Well, given that I never seem to get around to actually getting my exposed rolls *developed*, I'd have to say I take pictures because I love the feel of the various mechanisms in an SLR working. -Rich Doug Brewer wrote: > Hi. > > Since our man Mike appears to be busy elsewhere right now, I

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Eric Lawton
Why do I photograph? > >I see, therefore I photograph. >William Robb > This was the first thought I had. Those exact words. I photograph to emphasize the ordinary and make it extraordinary. Eric Lawton _ Get your FREE download of

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2001-08-27 Thread Ernest Alejandria
I take pictures for the memory, for the time when I couldn't make one anymore. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
I can... :-D Gianfranco Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's difficult for me to understand. How can a photograph be more > perfect than what exists in the real world, even with the real world's > imperfections? Can you make a more perfect flower, or a more perfect > human, o

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
ayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:24 AM Subject: Re: One Sentence > PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > > > I enjoy using technical tools to make a more

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > I enjoy using technical tools to make a more perfect version of those > things I see. That's difficult for me to understand. How can a photograph be more perfect than what exists in the real world, even with the real world's imperfections? Can you make a more perfect

RE: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.
I want a reminder of at least a small percentage of what I have seen and experienced, especially as forgetful as I am. César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida > -Original Message- > From: Doug Brewer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Jeff
Snap, cracle, pop, oh n! Jeff. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
I do photograph because it's easier for me than talking, and as much necessary as breathing. Gianfranco __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - This message is from th

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Sas Gabor
I have so many reasons to photograph, that I have none. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread William Robb
I see, therefore I photograph. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Bob Poe
me toobob poe --- Collin Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To speak in another language. > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * * * * > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< > <>< <>< > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. >

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Show Me the Money! !8^) (... of course there's always pretty girls & friends, too) Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast htt

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2001-08-27 Thread Anand DHUPKAR
Photography to me is a blend of artistic creativity & technological expertise that fulfills my childhood dream to show to people the things I ‘see’, which I could not pursue when I found I was not really that talented artist and won’t be able to make living with it and realized that I don’t ha

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread David S.
I photograph to put the outdoors that I love onto film. David S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Muse is a meanie who keeps nagging and poking and prodding me and reminding me to make pictures and music, and when I manage to ignore those, she becomes a temptress, dresses up in available light, and dangles sultry sounds and seductive image ideas before me until the tools of my craft, guit

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-26 Thread Tim S Kemp
Memories fade faster than Crystal Archive. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-26 Thread Jostein Øksne
One sentence on why I photograph? Basically, for the pleasure of it! Jostein ...Geez, why do we always have to be so informative? :-) -- Original Message -- From: Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 23:48

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-26 Thread Jim Apilado
Picture me Pentax. Jim A. > From: Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 23:48:26 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: One Sentence > > Hi. > > Since our man Mike appears to be busy elsewhere right now, I thought I'd jump > up here and give a

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-26 Thread Mark Erickson
Photography is an itch that I have to scratch --Mark (http://www.westerickson.net) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-26 Thread tom
I like photo groupies. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-26 Thread Bob Blakely
I photograph because the film exists. Regards, Bob... From: "Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's very simple: Write one sentence. In that sentence, tell us why you photograph. No restrictions on sentence length. It can be simple and declarative. It can be a Faulknerian odyssey. It just nee

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-26 Thread cori
I have the need to try and get unusual photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: One Sentence

2001-08-26 Thread Paul Jones
Hmmm, how longer sentence can I write and still keep it grammatically correct :) Here's mine: I enjoy the artistic and technical challenge of trying to the capture something on film in the way that I envisage. I'll probably think of a better one soon :) Regards, Paul Jones - Original Mes