> > I will no longer sell items world
> > wide. Because of him south America is off limits.
> > Kevin
"Because of him south America is off limits." So it's Albano's fault that
the shipment got lost, and South America should be punished. And Argentina
and South America are the same thing, maybe t
Albano is going to post to the list the response I got from them today.
However, this was the letter I sent to the store, apprising them of Alberta
law regarding loss of such shipments:
Dear Kevin,
The e-mail quoted bel
Like everywhere, you get people who do business in good faith,
and people who don't. A friend of mine suffered a similar ripoff
from a company in Florida who sold him a piece of lab equipment
then didn't deliver the equipment as advertised.
I suspect this will end up with the Canadian Photo Market
HAR!
Regards,
Bob...
--
"Those who say that life is worth living at any cost
have already written an epitaph of infamy,
for there is no cause and no person
that they will not betray to stay alive."
Sidney Hook
From: "Frits J. Wüthrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You
> are welcome, as a seller, to ship without insurance. You must, of course,
> accept responsibility for your choices (as in all of life), and if the
> shipment is lost (admittedly improbable), you must pony up for the buyer.
From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Surely its only worthless if the amusement park management were guilty
> of negligence which is a different thing and a disclaimer could not
> protect them from negligence.
No. The amusement park management may often (though not always) be liable
even t
I have not yet seen anyone refering to Argentine customs. For an
international delivery a customs declaration should have been filled out and
attached to the package by the shipper. Upon arrival in the destination
country the package must first pass through the customs house where any duty
or ta
inadequate packaging, but only if it was deemed to be their
fault.
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Sent: 29 June 2001 14:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Possibly, but I suspect that those simple words might be insufficient.
Some
Recent news item: Post office delivers letter 89 years late!
Over thirty years, I have had one house payment and one Sears payment lost
in the mail. The house payment actually arrived about two months late. I'd
not put a stop payment on the check, so that month was a severely short
month, cash wi
Possibly, but I suspect that those simple words might be insufficient. Some
responsibilities cannot be abrogated by a simple statement that the vendor
"is not liable" for certain normal expectations. An example is the common
warning on the back of an amusement park ticket that says that the
manage
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 2:02 PM
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"Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: eBay rip-off -- follow-up
>
> > On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, William Robb wrote:
> >
> > > And Bob and I agree.
> > > SO THERE!!!
&
From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Wouldnt this only be in regards to a business shipping the item? A think a
> transaction between two individuals would be a total different deal.
Why?
Regards,
Bob...
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Agreed. A reasonable length of time is often defined for such things. I
admit to not knowing what it is. Sixty or (at most) ninety days seems
reasonable to me for an international shipment, but that's just me. Various
jurisdictions may have or set longer or shorter times
Regards,
Bob...
From: "C
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Sent: June 28, 2001 8:14 PM
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> I agree with the rest of your points, so I'm not picking on
them. :)
Actually, I disagreed with t
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From: "Paul Jones"
Subject: Re: eBay rip-off -- follow-up
> Wouldnt this only be in regards to a business shipping the
item? A think a
> transaction between two individuals would be a total different
deal.
The courts are full of like minded peopl
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: June 28, 2001 9:28 PM
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> What? No "Har"? :)
I was sewiouss
William Robb
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:42:19 -0500 (CDT), Chris Brogden wrote:
>Nah. The ol' harda** is enjoying his moment of triumph. *L*
ROTFLMAO!
Later,
Gary
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
> What? No "Har"? :)
>
> Collin
Nah. The ol' harda** is enjoying his moment of triumph. *L*
chris
> At 08:08 PM 6/28/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >And Bob and I agree.
> >SO THERE!!!
> >William Robb
>
>
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What? No "Har"? :)
Collin
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>And Bob and I agree.
>SO THERE!!!
>William Robb
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> On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, William Robb wrote:
>
> > And Bob and I agree.
> > SO THERE!!!
> > William Robb
>
> If the seller is legally responsible for proving that the item arrived in
> the buyer's hands, then th
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, William Robb wrote:
> And Bob and I agree.
> SO THERE!!!
> William Robb
If the seller is legally responsible for proving that the item arrived in
the buyer's hands, then that pretty much negates my argument. I learn
something new every day... and sometimes two things. :)
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, William Robb wrote:
> Obviously we trust Albano implicitly,
>
> Why? Have you met him?
No. But apart from the fact that he's conducted several transactions
successfully with other list members, the fact that he mailed cash
internationally suggests to me that he's pretty t
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, William Robb wrote:
> And Bob and I agree.
> SO THERE!!!
> William Robb
:P
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> On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, William Robb wrote:
>
> > Chris, you are missing the major point here, which is, who is
> > responsible for delivery of goods or service? If a seller has an
> > undertaking with a buyer for goods, and the seller has been paid
> > in
And Bob and I agree.
SO THERE!!!
William Robb
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: June 28, 2001 7:47 PM
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> From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
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Subject: Re: eBay rip-off -- follow-up
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, William Robb wrote:
>
> > . It's as much the buyer's
> > > responsiblity as the seller's to verify that an item will
be
> &g
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Bob Blakely wrote:
> I'm sorry, I thought the seller was in Canada. The point is that the
> seller is responsible. It is irrelavent whether he chose Canada Post,
> UPS, FedEx, his brother-in-law or whoever for shipping. The seller's
> recourse is to the shipper. If the seller
From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Bob Blakely wrote:
>
> > It sounds like the seller is responsible to the customer for the camera
or
> > the price of the camera. The seller's recourse is to the shipping agent
he
> > contracted with.
>
> Would this be to Canada Post
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, William Robb wrote:
> . It's as much the buyer's
> > responsiblity as the seller's to verify that an item will be
> insured,
> > since it does cost extra to insure expensive items.
>
> Chris, you are missing the major point here, which is, who is
> responsible for delivery
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From: "Chris Brogden" <
Subject: RE: eBay rip-off -- follow-up
. It's as much the buyer's
> responsiblity as the seller's to verify that an item will be
insured,
> since it does cost extra to insure expensive items.
Chris, yo
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From: "Bob Blakely"
Subject: Re: eBay rip-off -- follow-up
> I don't know the law in Canada, or the province of sale, but
in the US,
> Must he go to the seller's jurisdiction to obtain justice?
Hopefully it wouldn't come t
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Stan Halpin wrote:
> Hey Seth - write me down as an idiot. I HATE insurance. Insurance means:
> a. Higher costs
Not that much in Canada. Regular parcel post air mail comes with $100 CAN
worth of insurance, and insurance to cover the Super Program would only
have been an
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Bob Blakely wrote:
> It sounds like the seller is responsible to the customer for the camera or
> the price of the camera. The seller's recourse is to the shipping agent he
> contracted with.
Would this be to Canada Post or the one in Albano's country? Canada Post
will argu
I don't know the law in Canada, or the province of sale, but in the US, a
business that accepts money for goods or services is responsible for
delivery of those goods or services to the customer. The shipping service is
(becomes) an agent of the seller, and the seller's delivery of the goods to
th
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Seth wrote:
> There is a lesson in here, regardless of how it turns out. Any seller
> willing to ship relatively expensive stuff without insurance
> (especially across international borders) is either a crook or an
> idiot asking for trouble. It would seem to me that the se
> From: "Seth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:47:41 -0700
> Subject: RE: eBay rip-off -- follow-up
>
>
> There is a lesson in here, regardless of how it turns out. Any seller
> willing to ship relatively expensive stuff without insuran
I don't know the law in Canada, or the province of sale, but in the US, a
business that accepts money for goods or services is responsible for
delivery of those goods or services to the customer. The shipping service is
(becomes) an agent of the seller, and the seller's delivery of the goods to
th
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> Peifer, William wrote:
> > I received a reply this afternoon from Kevin Dykstra of JD
> > Colour Service
> > regarding Albano's problems with his recent eBay purchase
> > of a Super Program
> > body.
> >
!!!)
Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
> -Original Message-
> From: William Robb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> Umm, Albano, if they are getting it tracked via Canada Post,
&g
Umm, Albano, if they are getting it tracked via Canada Post,
then they must have a tracking number.
Try tracking it yourself, if you can get the item # from the
vendor.
http://www.canadapost.ca/segment-e.asp
It does seem rather odd that they would ship to a foreign
country without adequate insura
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I just can't believe what this man is saying.
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lts to you all.
Cheers,
Mike
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Hi all,
[Let me note that I don't like the
It's also suspicious Mr. Kevin answers other people but doesn't give an
answer right to me, the happy customer, at least to stop receiving my 30
messages, so aggresives and disturbing.
Albano
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Hi, Bill.
Thanks again for your help.
I just can't believe what this man is saying.
I sent him an email to know if they received the money. They told me yes,
we received and sent the camera. Ok, I calculated the aprox. delay for air
shipping, its about 2 weeks. I waited. Time passed and I starte
Hi all,
[Let me note that I don't like the subject heading I've given this note, but
I'm preserving it here to maintain continuity with a thread we've been
discussing the last couple of days]
I received a reply this afternoon from Kevin Dykstra of JD Colour Service
regarding Albano's problem
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