RE: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-20 Thread Bob W
Well, that amazes me. I don't hold out much hope for the US Navy. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 November 2005 12:32 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-20 Thread Herb Chong
http://www.gcn.com/16_29/news/32083-1.html http://www.gcn.com/17_17/news/33727-1.html Herb - Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 5:42 AM Subject: RE: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

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2005-11-20 Thread Bob W
o its own location. The resulting strike killed the user and three comrades." -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 November 2005 01:23 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: IE bashing --> was Re:

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread Thibouille
Agreed. But then, Mozilla Firefox is going up for months now. I don't think 10% marketshare should be ignore now. In some countries, 5% in others 25%. Do what you want but personnaly, if a company shop website doesn't work with firefox, I do NOT switch browser. I switch company. Was my 2 cents ;

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "graywolf" Subject: Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24 Well what would you say of the security of the free world depending upon Bill Gates software was? We can blame the loss of freedoms on Bill Gates and his software? William Robb

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread graywolf
tems crashed, taking a few other Window systems with it. Herb - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24 Once when I flew out

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24 I believe it. Blue screen error... hehehehehe. Maybe you can blame all the collateral damage on Bill Gates. William Robb

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/19/2005 2:52:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: some of the navigation systems on US warships run on Windows. there was a US guided missile cruiser that was disabled for a few hours because one of its important Windows systems crashed, taking a few other

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread Herb Chong
inter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24 Once when I flew out of Heathrow I looked up at the usual bank of screens showing the status of arriving and departing flights. At the very

RE: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread Bob W
> > I've seen that at many places. It's just the passenger > information system; not stuff that is really important. > OTOH, I know someone who has been working on the new UK air > traffic control system. Apart from having the total UK > system in one building, which is scary enough, his st

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 19, 2005, at 9:55, Joseph Tainter wrote: So when you land at congested Heathrow, the world's busiest airport, remember that the place runs on Windows. "... and I'm so worried about the baggage retrieval system they've got at Heathrow" -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PR

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 08:55:16AM -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: > Bruce wrote: > > My experience with IE is equally poor. Seems that all virus type > attacks/spyware/adware/etc all trigger off IE. I rarely use it for > anything, unless there are no alternatives and I must visit that site > (a ra

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread Christian
http://daimyo.org/bsod/ more BSODs Christian - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 19, 2005,

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread mike wilson
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 19, 2005, at 7:55 AM, Joseph Tainter wrote: Once when I flew out of Heathrow I looked up at the usual bank of screens showing the status of arriving and departing flights. At the very end of this row of monitors one showed a blue screen that read: "This pro

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 19, 2005, at 7:55 AM, Joseph Tainter wrote: Once when I flew out of Heathrow I looked up at the usual bank of screens showing the status of arriving and departing flights. At the very end of this row of monitors one showed a blue screen that read: "This program has performed an ille

Re: IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-19 Thread Joseph Tainter
Bruce wrote: My experience with IE is equally poor. Seems that all virus type attacks/spyware/adware/etc all trigger off IE. I rarely use it for anything, unless there are no alternatives and I must visit that site (a rare occurrence). -- Once when I flew out of Heathrow I looked up a

RE: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-17 Thread Tim Øsleby
:51 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: full size img taken w/12-24 > > When I saw you had left your last name out of your sig, ILMAO. > > (Just in case? I made up the zero thing on the spur of the moment just > to get back at Tim for bringing my name into this threa

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-17 Thread graywolf
less (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. november 2005 00:09 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: full size

RE: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 17. november 2005 00:09 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: full size img taken w/12-24 > > No, no, Frank is the list scapegoat. We b

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2005-11-16 Thread graywolf
ge crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16. november 2005 16:58 To: PDML Subject: Re: full size img taken w/12-24 LOL ... On the basis of that rationale, why did you buy a Pentax

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2005-11-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Because he had to, or else use Canon "Coke" Bottles. Cotty wrote: On 16/11/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: why would Cotty go through all the trouble to convert his favorite Pentax lenses to Canon mount? ;-) Erp, because *I can* ?? =-) Cheers, Cotty ___/

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2005-11-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/11/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >why would Cotty go >through all the trouble to convert his favorite Pentax lenses to >Canon mount? ;-) Erp, because *I can* ?? =-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottys

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 16, 2005, at 10:13 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I think you are playing dirty here. The result is the same from a Pentax as from a Canon, after conversion. Um, no. I have both. Canon lenses are not Pentax lenses and have different rendering characteristics. Otherwise, why would Cotty go

IE bashing --> was Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
My experience with IE is equally poor. Seems that all virus type attacks/spyware/adware/etc all trigger off IE. I rarely use it for anything, unless there are no alternatives and I must visit that site (a rare occurrence). It will be interesting to see if Microsoft chooses to ignore this problem

RE: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
sage- > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16. november 2005 16:58 > To: PDML > Subject: Re: full size img taken w/12-24 > > LOL ... On the basis of that rationale, why did you buy a Pentax? ;-) > > Yes, IE is here. So is doggie poo. Doesn't m

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-16 Thread Glen
At 10:15 AM 11/16/2005, you wrote: On Nov 16, 2005, at 5:52 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Netscape did the trick. Wish I knew what's going on. Thanks for giving the obvious tip Godfrey. Glad that worked. Internet Explorer is junk. Godfre At one point, the US government actually issued a statemen

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL ... On the basis of that rationale, why did you buy a Pentax? ;-) Yes, IE is here. So is doggie poo. Doesn't mean I want either of them in front of me on my desk. Both stink. Godfrey On Nov 16, 2005, at 7:50 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Rant warning: IE may be junk, but it is what most people

RE: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16. november 2005 16:16 >

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 16, 2005, at 5:52 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Netscape did the trick. Wish I knew what's going on. Thanks for giving the obvious tip Godfrey. Glad that worked. Internet Explorer is junk. Godfre

RE: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
Message- > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15. november 2005 19:39 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: full size img taken w/12-24 > > Try using a different browser. Netscape, Firefox, Opera ... > > Godfrey > > On Nov 15, 2005, at 10:3

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-16 Thread David Savage
It's a electrical extension cord from a retractable reel. I suspect they plug the truck in to keep various pieces of equipment & batteries charged. Dave On 11/16/05, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very nice shot. > BTW: Why is there a string from th car atatched to a beam in the roof? >

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Herb Chong
i have actual rez images shot with other 12-24 lenses you can compare with. these are low compression images and are 2-3MB in size. Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 - sharpened and levels, but no CA removed http://www.herbchong.com/Temp/IMGP5150.jpg Nikkor 12-24/4 DX - sharpened, levels, and CA removed h

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Gonz
It was on a tripod, mirror lock-up. But I have upsized the image to 6k x 4k, so you can see the details better, that may be why the smaller details may be a little soft. I am going to post a RAW (DNG) image tonight for all to download. rg Andre Langevin wrote: > > http://www.g0nz.com/imag

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Gonz
Thanks Jos. rg Jostein wrote: There's one in the mail coming your way now. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: RE: full size img taken w/12-24 I'm using IE6.0.2 This

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein
There's one in the mail coming your way now. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: RE: full size img taken w/12-24 I'm using IE6.0.2 This looks like a dead end. If you hav

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: full size img taken w/12-24 On Nov 15, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: The page with the jpg. It loads, but I can't see the picture. The URL is http://www.g0nz.com/images/fullimg.jpg There's no HTML page associated. It's simply a JPEG file. C

RE: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15. november 2005 19:26 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: full size img taken w/12-24 > > > On Nov 15, 2005, at 10

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 15, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: The page with the jpg. It loads, but I can't see the picture. The URL is http://www.g0nz.com/images/fullimg.jpg There's no HTML page associated. It's simply a JPEG file. Clicking on that link should open a new browser window and then, dependi

RE: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
rgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15. november 2005 18:51 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: full size img taken w/12-24 > > What page? It's just a JPEG file. > > Godfrey > > On Nov 15, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > > > Let me add

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 15, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Andre Langevin wrote: > > http://www.g0nz.com/images/fullimg.jpg > > > Full size 100% crop img using 12-24. > > It has CA touchup + a little sharpening > levels + WB fixing, so its not totally raw > > its 1.4Mb so it might take its time to load Low-righ

RE: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
Original Message- > From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15. november 2005 18:33 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: full size img taken w/12-24 > > I dont know what to tell you Tim, I just tried it from my work machine > and it loaded. Maybe your ISP is n

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2005-11-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
e power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15. november 2005 16:07 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: full size img taken w/12-24 The URL is found, but I'm not

RE: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Andre Langevin
> > http://www.g0nz.com/images/fullimg.jpg > > > Full size 100% crop img using 12-24. > > It has CA touchup + a little sharpening > levels + WB fixing, so its not totally raw > > its 1.4Mb so it might take its time to load Low-right corner: shouln't "Texas" be sharper? Was the camera

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Gonz
scuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: full size img taken w/12-24 The URL is found, but I'm not able to see the picture. And the expand to full size button is visible. I don't understand. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very free

RE: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
r guy) > -Original Message- > From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15. november 2005 16:07 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: full size img taken w/12-24 > > The URL is found, but I'm not able to see the picture. And the expand to > full size butto

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Gonz
I upres-ed it so it would be a little magnified to allow for closer examination. I will post a RAW image when I can determine if my server/ISP has the bandwidth to support the downloads. rg Bob Sullivan wrote: How come this shows as a 6100x4100 pixel jpeg on my screen here? Did you up-size

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 14, 2005, at 10:29 PM, Gonz wrote: http://www.g0nz.com/images/fullimg.jpg Full size 100% crop img using 12-24. Caveats: It was too big so I had to compress to a somewhat lower quality jpg than I wanted. It has CA touchup + a little sharpening levels + WB fixing, so its not totally r

RE: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
The URL is found, but I'm not able to see the picture. And the expand to full size button is visible. I don't understand. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > ---

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Boris Liberman wrote on 15.11.05 15:16: > PS Raw Processing engine (whatever its name which I forgotten) allows > you to up-size the image up to 25 MP. Rumour has it that this kind of > up-sizing is the best. This is not just a rumour Boris ;-) We are just preparing '07 calendar for one of our key

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Bob, PS Raw Processing engine (whatever its name which I forgotten) allows you to up-size the image up to 25 MP. Rumour has it that this kind of up-sizing is the best. HTH. -- Boris

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
How come this shows as a 6100x4100 pixel jpeg on my screen here? Did you up-size it somewhere in the process? Have you got the new 24 megapixel sensor? Regards, Bob S. On 11/15/05, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WARNING WARNING WARNING!! > __ > > > Not for the bandwidth

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Gonz. Sharpness looks good in the corners. I think that lens is a keeper . Paul On Nov 15, 2005, at 1:29 AM, Gonz wrote: WARNING WARNING WARNING!! __ Not for the bandwidth impaired http://www.g0nz.com/images/fullimg.jpg Full size 100% crop img using 12-24.

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 Nov 2005 at 9:39, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: > Rob Studdert wrote on 15.11.05 9:28: > > > That's very impressive, it's pretty darned good right into the corners, how > > prevalent was the CA prior to the correction? > No matter how low CA was, you won't ever buy limited circle DA lens Rob, >

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Rob Studdert wrote on 15.11.05 9:28: > That's very impressive, it's pretty darned good right into the corners, how > prevalent was the CA prior to the correction? No matter how low CA was, you won't ever buy limited circle DA lens Rob, will you? ;-P -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regar

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-15 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Gonz wrote on 15.11.05 7:29: > http://www.g0nz.com/images/fullimg.jpg > > Full size 100% crop img using 12-24. > > Caveats: > > It was too big so I had to compress to a somewhat lower quality jpg than > I wanted. > It has CA touchup + a little sharpening > levels + WB fixing, so its not totally

Re: full size img taken w/12-24

2005-11-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 Nov 2005 at 0:29, Gonz wrote: > WARNING WARNING WARNING!! > __ > > > Not for the bandwidth impaired > > http://www.g0nz.com/images/fullimg.jpg > > Full size 100% crop img using 12-24. > > Caveats: > > It was too big so I had to compress to a somewhat lower q