Because you can set the AF system so it's not activated by the shutter
half-press, but only by the AF button. That configuration works very
well with lenses that have Full-Time Manual focusing like most DA's,
it gives you manual focus with AF when you want it.
In fact that's how my D300 is
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From: Jens
Subject: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back side??
Why do any of us need buttons on our backsides now that we have central
heating?
WW
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I think the problem with ThumbsPlus is the same as some other software
experiences, that the colours come out all wrong. At least it throws a
message to that end whenever I try to have it create thumbnails from
the PEFs.
OTOH, I've been quite happy with ThumbsPlus for nearly three years for
all
Tim Øsleby
My K20D has a distinct two step feeling.
William Robb
The activation on mine requires very little pressure, and very little
deflection of the button also.
So it seems that there is some kind of sample variation here.
Personally I prefer having the 2 step feeling.
Jaume
2008/8/3
It's hard to say if there is K20D sample variation without doing actual
side-by-side comparisons. My no resistance might be Bill's slight
resistance. Nevertheless, I found that I got used to the position where the
K20D activates autofocus without thinking about it. It's there whether one
feels
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From: Jens
Subject: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back
side??
Why do any of us need buttons
: Re: K20D shutter button question
It's hard to say if there is K20D sample variation without doing actual
side-by-side comparisons. My no resistance might be Bill's slight
resistance. Nevertheless, I found that I got used to the position where the
K20D activates autofocus without thinking about
: domingo, 3 de agosto, 2008 23:24:13
Asunto: Re: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
Thanks, Paul. I have set mine likewise, since I'd never really use it for
focusing.
The thing about manual lenses I don't understand. My manual lenses seem to work
in such a way, that I get focus confirmation
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Subject: Re: K20D shutter button question
It's hard to say if there is K20D sample variation without doing actual
side-by-side comparisons. My no resistance might be Bill's slight
resistance. Nevertheless, I found that I got used to the position where
: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
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From: Jens
Subject: Re: Re: K20D shutter button question
Annother button question: Why do we need an AF button on the back side??
Why do any of us need buttons on our backsides
The short answer is that there is no way to trigger a flash at
exposure times over the X sync speed unless you're using a dedicated
Pentax flash unit and HSS mode. I'm certain that Pentax considers
this a plus for most of their users.
Yeah, understood. I'm sure it is... for most :)
I guess
Maybe be going manual would be OK ?
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger the PC/hotshoe at
shutter speeds about 1/180?
I'm not talking about HSS (or indeed dedicated flash at all), and I
understand
- Original Message -
From: Peter Loveday
Subject: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?
Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger the PC/hotshoe at
shutter speeds about 1/180?
It doesn't look like it. I hooked my Metz up to the PC terminal, and tried. The
Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger
the PC/hotshoe at
shutter speeds about 1/180?
It doesn't look like it. I hooked my Metz up to the PC
terminal, and tried. The flash trigger
appears to be turned off at speeds above 1/180 second.
William Robb
Pentax have
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From: Bob W
Subject: RE: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?
Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger
the PC/hotshoe at
shutter speeds about 1/180?
It doesn't look like it. I hooked my Metz up to the PC
terminal, and tried
On Jun 28, 2008, at 12:08 AM, Peter Loveday wrote:
Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger the PC/
hotshoe at
shutter speeds about 1/180?
I'm not talking about HSS (or indeed dedicated flash at all), and I
understand all the issues with flah sync; this is for a project
I use high speed synch mode on a regular bases. it works very well. If one were
able to trigger the flash above synch speed in normal mode, the result would be
a frame that is exposed unevenly. We used to be able to do that with some
cameras. The result is predictable.
Paul
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Pentax have never really got to grips with flash. I remember always
being confused and disappointed in the way the LX handled it. I'm much
more impressed with the Olympus flash system, and I know Nikon are
very good at flash. With my Olympus you can use flash at any shutter
Bob W escribió:
Pentax have never really got to grips with flash. I remember
always
being confused and disappointed in the way the LX handled
it. I'm much
more impressed with the Olympus flash system, and I know Nikon are
very good at flash. With my Olympus you can use flash at any
I regularly use fill flash from my 540 at 1/2000 or 1/4000. Pentx HSS works
well.
Paul
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From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob W escribi�:
Pentax have never really got to grips with flash. I remember
always
being confused and
2008/6/26 DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The guy
who was claiming this had a look at my K20D files and found lack of
details in the same areas that had highlight warnings on the camera.
He claims that his method works on K20D but I´m not convinced.
Oh. I got it wrong from memory then... I thought it
There is ISO 100 and 6400 there. Don't forget that you select ISO range
with two wheels; lower - with wheel on the cameras back and high ISO
with wheel on cams front (or other way around). I too was confused with
this after I chosen expanded ISO and EDR. At first was trying to find
the
Roman Melihhov wrote:
I've one very disturbing thing about K20D - X-sync terminal (socket) is
very lose and I always lose x-sync cable while rotating the camera.
Almost every time I turn it right (portrait), x-sync plug slips out of
the socket... I wonder if I can use hotshoe adapter I have
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From: Roman Melihhov
Subject: Re: K20D dynamic range question (ISO range, SR x-sync)
I've one very disturbing thing about K20D - X-sync terminal (socket) is
very lose and I always lose x-sync cable while rotating the camera.
Almost every time I turn it right
I have been trying to look into this, but haven't been able to reach
any conclusions yet. The tests I did last week was done with the K20D
on a tripod and using the 2s self-timer. So alas, I'm left with a set
of test shots with an awful lot of weird noise. I have learned about
the firmware update
Hi!
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apparently, the K10D does not provide much leeway in the
post-processing compared to what appears on the chimping screen, but
nobody tested the K20D. It's tempting to speculate that the switch to
a CMOS sensor in the
2008/6/26 Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Tempting it will be. However I must point out that from my usage
pattern it turns out that this is in fact incorrect. Numerous times I
were (or is it I was?!) able to pull out the highlight detail from the
chimping screen blinkies. Recently it drove
Yes, definitely true. I can save skies with the K20D that I lose with the K10D.
That's with the EDR feature turned on.
Paul
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From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi!
The review just published on DPReview and mentioned here mentions that
Paul, I probably did not mention that explicitly, but I was talking
about K20D using with EDR turned *off*. Say, you take K10D and K20D
both at ISO 100 and take a shot. Any observable difference in
highlight/shadow details?
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes,
I measured DR myself with the *ist DS and K10D using a procedure very
similar to what was written up in Photo Techniques January/February
2007 issue. In my testing, the K10D's RAW capture dynamic range runs
from 11 to 9 stops over the ISO range from 100 to 1600, an increase of
about 2
16:42:28
Asunto: Re: K20D dynamic range question
Paul, I probably did not mention that explicitly, but I was talking
about K20D using with EDR turned *off*. Say, you take K10D and K20D
both at ISO 100 and take a shot. Any observable difference in
highlight/shadow details?
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5
Don't know. I rarely turn EDR off, and I don't pixel peep.
Paul
-- Original message --
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul, I probably did not mention that explicitly, but I was talking
about K20D using with EDR turned *off*. Say, you take K10D and K20D
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Numerous times I
were (or is it I was?!) able to pull out the highlight detail from the
chimping screen blinkies.
Was. The first person, I, is the subject of the verb, not numerous times.
http://leo.stcloudstate.edu/grammar/subverag.html
Dunno
in having little needs...
;-)
Jaume
(whose little needs consist is a K20D replacement for his Ds)
- Mensaje original
De: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Enviado: jueves, 26 de junio, 2008 16:42:28
Asunto: Re: K20D dynamic range
...
;-)
Jaume
(whose little needs consist is a K20D replacement for his Ds)
- Mensaje original
De: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Enviado: jueves, 26 de junio, 2008 16:42:28
Asunto: Re: K20D dynamic range question
Paul, I probably did
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't know. I rarely turn EDR off, and I don't pixel peep.
Paul
Understood. However washed out skies for example is something that is
immediately visible and IMHO does not account for pixel peeping.
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The problem with that thread on www.foto.no is that the theory was
based on Canon 5D highlight warning and exposure meter, so how I´m not
sure how relevant it is for Pentax. The highlight warning on the Canon
seems to be based on the jpg-files, while in my experience the
highlight warning
True. But I haven't shot enough with the K20D and no EDR to say for sure if
there's a difference. But with EDR, the K20D definitely shows an extended
range. I can't see any reason to shoot without EDR other than a need for a
wider stop or slower shutter speed (on the low ISO end of things).
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True. But I haven't shot enough with the K20D and no EDR to say for sure if
there's a difference.
The difference is not dramatic, but it's there. I wonder why they
just didn't leave it permanently on.
-T
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From: Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True. But I haven't shot enough with the K20D and no EDR to say for sure if
there's a difference.
The difference is not dramatic, but it's
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 08:20:41PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Original message --
From: Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True. But I haven't shot enough with the K20D and no EDR to say for sure
Toine wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk20d/
Don't shoot the messenger :)
I like where they imply that they don't want to be churlish while
being exactly that. Still not a bad review and the camera is Highly
Recommended.
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On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:46:25PM +0200, Toine wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk20d/
Don't shoot the messenger :)
Seems a fair enough review to me. And Highly Recommended.
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On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk20d/
I admired the comparison pages, where they pixel-peeped some RAW
images from the K20 and a couple competitors and said essentially
identical. True enough, which is why ergonomics and
On Jun 25, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
Given the image quality parity, the most important thing a
modern SLR can do is get out of your way.
Mark!
I've felt that way about all cameras for many years. :-)
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On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk20d/
I admired the comparison pages, where they pixel-peeped some RAW
images from the K20 and a couple competitors and
A-700 is plain ugly with batterygrip, but every button is dublicated,
and seem to be at the right place.
MaritimTim
2008/6/26 Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ugly it may be, but the button control layout is superb, the grip
(and battery grip) fill the hand perfectly and it's got the best
rear-LCD display I've ever seen (the rear display rotates as the body
does, and you can navigate it with the joystick to change settings,
works brilliantly).
I often
Paul: Very impressive-- the extended comments on this thread were very
helpful! Thanks Cheers, Christine
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:25 AM
Subject: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic
Thanks Christine.
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From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul: Very impressive-- the extended comments on this thread were very
helpful! Thanks Cheers, Christine
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL
Thanks Fernando.
Included on the list.
Jostein
2008/6/15 Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Capture One, version 4
On 6/14/08, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gang,
The K20D has been with us for a couple of months. Now I'm curious
which raw file converters support its PEF files.
Any
Silky Pix after that I don't know...
AlunFoto wrote:
Gang,
The K20D has been with us for a couple of months. Now I'm curious
which raw file converters support its PEF files.
Any experiences?
Best,
Jostein
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Ok, I guess I should start by adding the ones I know.
- LightZone: Yes
- Photoshop: Yes
- SilkyPix: Yes
- RawTherapee: Yes
- ThumbsPlus: No
I assume that what goes for PhotoShop goes for Lightroom as well?
How about:
- Aperture?
- DxO?
- Bibble?
- FotoStation?
- Anything else worth mentioning?
AlunFoto wrote:
Ok, I guess I should start by adding the ones I know.
- LightZone: Yes
- Photoshop: Yes
- SilkyPix: Yes
- RawTherapee: Yes
- ThumbsPlus: No
I assume that what goes for PhotoShop goes for Lightroom as well?
Lightroom is working with K20D files for me.
How about:
-
I just made a little GoogleDocs spreadsheet to gather this info:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pecuhsM9jAKO6f2laoptJbg
IIRC, I've done the same exercise for other camera models, but that
spreadsheet lives on another computer which I will not have access to
until Monday afternoon. Could
Macintosh I-Photo. How weird is that?
Paul
-- Original message --
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Silky Pix after that I don't know...
AlunFoto wrote:
Gang,
The K20D has been with us for a couple of months. Now I'm curious
which raw file converters
As soon as Apple incorporates RAW processing support into the
CoreImage frameworks, it is a system shared library so any
application that uses the framework gets it automatically.
They added the K20D recently, now Aperture, iPhoto and Preview all
have access to process the RAW files.
Thanks Godfrey.
GoogleDoc updated.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pecuhsM9jAKO6f2laoptJbg
Jostein
2008/6/15 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As soon as Apple incorporates RAW processing support into the
CoreImage frameworks, it is a system shared library so any
application that
Capture One, version 4
On 6/14/08, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gang,
The K20D has been with us for a couple of months. Now I'm curious
which raw file converters support its PEF files.
Any experiences?
Best,
Jostein
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Good by the time I buy one the problem will be all fixed.
Thibouille wrote:
Don't think it was montionned before
http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1212174178.html
So it is official it seems.
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There's been a $100 rebate on the K20D for a while now, several weeks at
least IIRC.
Rob Brigham wrote:
http://www.pentax.co.uk/_uk/photo/cashback.php
£100 on K20D and £50 on K200D from 11th June to the end of August.
Shame I bought mine already...
Rob
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This is £100. First time I've seen a rebate on Pentax gear in the UK. But the
UK price is ~£799 for the body plus 18-55. Rebate does not apply to body only.
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/06/11 Wed PM 01:03:33 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re
not apply to body
only.
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/06/11 Wed PM 01:03:33 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK
There's been a $100 rebate on the K20D for a while now, several weeks at
least IIRC.
Rob Brigham
in the UK. But
the UK price is ~£799 for the body plus 18-55. Rebate does not apply to
body only.
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/06/11 Wed PM 01:03:33 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK
There's been
Wed PM 01:25:50 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK
Yea, I know, you guys are still getting screwed...
P. J. Alling wrote:
The lowest reputable dealer's Body only price in the US is Buydig.com
at 1089.00 USD which is about
P. J. Alling wrote:
There's been a $100 rebate on the K20D for a while now, several weeks at
least IIRC.
Yes, I believe it started two days after I got my K20d...
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--- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: Re: K20D 21 fps Question
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 9:18 AM
--- On Sat, 6/7/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
From: William Robb
Jack Davis wrote:
I was accidentally right the first time. Bill and Mark were and are right.
Per Pentax email this AM: In burst mode the K20D is shooting at 1.6
Magapixels per image.
The wording makes me think the answer came from Japan.
I don't know the conversion factor to get from
I see. Thanks, Mark.
Jack
--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K20D 21 fps Question-the answer
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 11:46 AM
Jack Davis wrote:
I was accidentally
at a cat.
Jack
--- On Sat, 6/7/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K20D Test Comparisons
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 6:28 PM
Oh, I don't know, the description of the Invalid
Operation
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis
Subject: K20D 21 fps Question
Is it not possible to separately view each of the 1.6 mp frames when shooting
at 21 fps? A
question that came up in something I was reading awhile back.
I used that for fun the other day. The files get stored
--- On Sat, 6/7/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K20D 21 fps Question
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 8:21 AM
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: K20D 21 fps Question
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: K20D 21 fps Question
Thanks, Bill. Makes sense.
To help preserve the last remaining tattered remnant of my self esteem, I
have to say that I
know the 21 fps file size is 1.6 mb not mp.
I think mp (megapixel) is correct
William Robb wrote:
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From: Jack Davis
Thanks, Bill. Makes sense.
To help preserve the last remaining tattered remnant of my self esteem, I
have to say that I
know the 21 fps file size is 1.6 mb not mp.
I think mp (megapixel) is correct.
I would think MP
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: K20D 21 fps Question
Thanks, Bill. Makes sense.
To help preserve the last remaining tattered remnant
Thanks, Mark.
I just checked the specs on Pentax Imaging site and saw the follow: 20 fps in
burst mode(115 at 1.6M).
Does that clear anything up for you? :-?
Jack
--- On Sat, 6/7/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K20D 21 fps Question
Oh, I don't know, the description of the Invalid Operation Button on
the Operation and Control page (8.) of the review might be just enough
to make it worth reading even without the Pentax content... Made me
chuckle...
Jack Davis wrote:
dpreview just reviewed the Sony A350 and in so doing
]
Subject: Re: K20D Test Comparisons
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 6:28 PM
Oh, I don't know, the description of the Invalid
Operation Button on
the Operation and Control page (8.) of the review might be
just enough
to make it worth reading even without
That's true, but you can overdo it, and Pentax did with the K10D when
the price nosedived, it earned them K10D sales at the cost of
completely destroying K100D Super sales. The K10D was already priced
at a nice discount over the less-featured D80 (about $100) at launch,
and maintaining and/or
Didn't you know, Pentax makes marketing decisions using a dartboard?
Adam Maas wrote:
That's true, but you can overdo it, and Pentax did with the K10D when
the price nosedived, it earned them K10D sales at the cost of
completely destroying K100D Super sales. The K10D was already priced
at a
Riceguy is the anti Kennyboy, (one hates Pentax beyond all reason, the
other loves Nikon more than his wife), with the same witless result. I
keep wondering if they would annihilate each other in a coruscating
blaze of released bile if placed in close contact...
Derby Chang wrote:
Jaume
God, why did I bother reading that...
Thibouille wrote:
Look here:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036message=28085894changemode=1
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Hello Adam,
When you are Nikon or Canon you can price reasonably because most
users will buy your products over weaker brands if the price is
similar. When you are the weaker brand, there has to be something
more than a comparably featured body to entice. You either need a
demonstrably better
Hi!
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Doug Franklin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think a big part of it is a change in the mindset of the
photographically aware, if you'll allow me a neologism.
Doug, I think that the age of film and the post-film era are separated
by rather large and definitely
Hi Boris !
Jaume, I most respectfully disagree with you.
Sure...but I don't think that we disagree that much.
Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
People already happy with their equipment? Sounds good but I don't
fully agree...I would say resigned instead of happy.
I am happy. I am still wishing for more,
with Pentax !!
Regards,
Jaume
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De: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Enviado: jueves, 29 de mayo, 2008 6:54:51
Asunto: Re: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)
From: Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People already
Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
BTW, Paul, this link is an example of why it is worth looking
occasionally at dpreview, despite the admitted annoyances of that site.
News such as this shows up much earlier there than it does here.
Today I was just thinking that this list has somehow shifted
But the Pentax dropped significantly much earlier in its life. Look at
the D80, which was launched concurrently with the K10D and has seen
significant price drops, but still sells for about $200 more than the
K10D did last fall.
I understand price drops, they make sense. But Pentax overdid it
Oh, sure, Derby,
People who goes really in deep on equipment technology rarely is able to
maintain the same level when it comes to actual pictures.
Actually, what I think is that there are 2 different 'hobbies':
- Photography: taking, showing, looking at pictures, talk and comment them.
- Photo
Note the buffer issue can be hit with a few closely spaced shots, not
just in continuous. This is due to it only holding 4 shots (and the
fairly slow write speeds by todays standards, an issue with all
SD-based cameras, the new UDMA CF cards are much faster).
Given those costs (God, Aussie prices
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)
Pentax is in deep doo doo now.
There's no real evidence to support that. Time will tell, but it's certainly
not a given now.
They're in better shape than they were
- Original Message -
From: Derby Chang
Subject: Re: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)
As much as I like to fondle gear myself, I find those to bleat on about
equipment shortcomings tend to be those who have the least to say
photographically.
There is a tendency
- Original Message -
From: Adam Maas
Subject: Re: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)
But the Pentax dropped significantly much earlier in its life. Look at
the D80, which was launched concurrently with the K10D and has seen
significant price drops, but still sells for about
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 7:29 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They got my meds stabilized and someone kidnapped Norm and gave us the Scott
and Dave show
instead.
(for when you get back from GFM): MARK!!!
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:11 AM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Adam Maas
Subject: Re: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)
But the Pentax dropped significantly much earlier in its life. Look at
the D80, which was launched concurrently
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Jaume Lahuerta Subject: List
focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)
No more bloody fights
They got my meds stabilized and someone kidnapped Norm and gave us
the Scott and Dave show instead.
Oh, man. You guys got the short
-- Original message --
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:11 AM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Adam Maas
Subject: Re: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)
But the Pentax dropped
Hi!
Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
Well, my sentence wasn't too fortunate now that I read it again.
After all, probably the easier way to be happy is to have little
needs, so people has learned to just use their tools and don't be
tortured by further features (that are not really key for what they
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 7:58 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)
Pentax Forum is even worse, and the Pentax forum on photo.net is clueless.
I've had a guy respnd to one
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 7:29 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jaume Lahuerta
Subject: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)
No more bloody fights
They got my meds stabilized and someone kidnapped Norm and gave us the Scott
and Dave
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