Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users - update

2013-09-03 Thread John
On 9/2/2013 6:22 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2013-09-02 13:12 John wrote Hardware problems should appear when the unit gets warm and go away when it cools down. An intermittent hardware problem that GOES AWAY when the unit warms up just doesn't sound right to me. when we're talking about elect

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users - update

2013-09-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/9/13, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: >Absolutely: it can and does. As an electronics hardware designer I've >witnessed it all, and in my experience hardware fails however it damn >well chooses. Update. Hoiked out the HDD from the dodgy PowerBook G4 and just before, while I was me

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users - update

2013-09-02 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:22 PM, steve harley wrote: > on 2013-09-02 13:12 John wrote > >> Hardware problems should appear when the unit gets warm and go away when >> it cools down. >> >> An intermittent hardware problem that GOES AWAY when the unit warms up >> just doesn't sound right to me. > > >

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users - update

2013-09-02 Thread steve harley
on 2013-09-02 13:12 John wrote Hardware problems should appear when the unit gets warm and go away when it cools down. An intermittent hardware problem that GOES AWAY when the unit warms up just doesn't sound right to me. when we're talking about electrical connections under expansion and con

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users - update

2013-09-02 Thread John
Hardware problems should appear when the unit gets warm and go away when it cools down. An intermittent hardware problem that GOES AWAY when the unit warms up just doesn't sound right to me. On 9/2/2013 4:03 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 1/9/13, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: i don'

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users - update

2013-09-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 1/9/13, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: >i don't know of a common such glitch with that model, but my first Intel >Mac, a >2.17GHz Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro, died a slow death from GPU troubles; >apparently >there are bad solder joints that are stressed by thermal expansion; i farmed

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users - update

2013-09-01 Thread David Mann
On Sep 2, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: > Lots of laptops of various brands had similar heat related GPU > problems in this tech era, I think that they had unrealistic > expectations of the performance of the ball grid arrays used to > connect the chips to the beards. No wonder it's gett

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users - update

2013-09-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 September 2013 11:53, steve harley wrote: > i don't know of a common such glitch with that model, but my first Intel > Mac, a 2.17GHz Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro, died a slow death from GPU troubles; > apparently there are bad solder joints that are stressed by thermal > expansion; i farmed the m

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users - update

2013-09-01 Thread steve harley
on 2013-09-01 5:47 Steve Cottrell wrote I'm leaning to a GPU hardward glitch, maybe? i don't know of a common such glitch with that model, but my first Intel Mac, a 2.17GHz Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro, died a slow death from GPU troubles; apparently there are bad solder joints that are stressed by

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users - update

2013-09-01 Thread Bob W
On 1 Sep 2013, at 12:47, "Steve Cottrell" wrote: > [...] > > I'm leaning to a GPU hardward glitch, maybe? > > More research needed which I will do this afternoon. > Translation: it's time to sacrifice a chicken. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listi

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users - update

2013-09-01 Thread Steve Cottrell
Well, I've resolved the situation partially. It was time for me to upgrade my MacBook Pro to a newer model anyway (and pass on my 2006 MBP to Alma) so I've managed to get a 2010 MBP 2.53 (8GB RAM) with the hi-res anti-glare screen in mint condition boxed for 785 GBP. I've ordered a 250GB SSD for i

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-29 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/8/13, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: >Screen-brightness key on the keyboard: does that affect the situation? Yup. Screen brightness increases, except the screen is dark. It just gets a little less darker. The brightness of the apple logo on the other side increases correctly, so t

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-29 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/8/13, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: >try a restart with command-option-P-R (all four keys) held down; this resets >the PRAM, which may hold an errant display setting First thing I tried! Also reset the PMU - all to no avail. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corpo

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-28 Thread steve harley
on 2013-08-28 15:47 Stan Halpin wrote On Aug 28, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Backlight is on, dark screen but the mac is outputting 'dark' to the screen. Logic board? could be. Screen-brightness key on the keyboard: does that affect the situation? try a restart with command-opti

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-28 Thread Stan Halpin
On Aug 28, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 28/8/13, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I plugged up an external display via DVI. >> >> Ext display shows desktop background - so need to turn on mirroring - >> not difficult to do despite Powerbook screen blank - keyboar

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/8/13, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: >I plugged up an external display via DVI. > >Ext display shows desktop background - so need to turn on mirroring - >not difficult to do despite Powerbook screen blank - keyboard shortcut >of Command+F1... > >...and up comes the desktop on th

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/8/13, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: >typo? that's a Mac Pro oops typo. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mai

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/8/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >Bruce has it right. In target disk mode, there is only the base chipset >to make the drive available running. Everything else has been bypassed. Thanks guys. I plugged up an external display via DVI. Ext display shows desktop backgrou

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-28 Thread steve harley
on 2013-08-28 13:41 Steve Cottrell wrote It's a 15 incher A1186 typo? that's a Mac Pro -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-28 Thread steve harley
on 2013-08-28 13:20 Steve Cottrell wrote but for the sake of argument and just to see if it is doable, while her sick mac is in target disk mode, is there any way to view the specs of her actual machine? no; but there may be enough info in the model # etc. to look it up and get the part info;

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Bruce has it right. In target disk mode, there is only the base chipset to make the drive available running. Everything else has been bypassed. Godfrey -- Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com - 408.431.4601 cell On Aug 28, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Steve, as I understand

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Steve, as I understand it, when a Mac is in Target Disk mode it's running off code in the boot ROM and isn't running an OS at all. So it's single-tasking and there's no way to get it to do anything else; probably just as well. Larry's suggestion of looking up the model number or serial is recommen

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/8/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >Which powerbook? I've got a 12" that I love, but it's gotten to the point >that it no longer has the computation horsepower to play iTunes without >glitching (!?). It's a 15 incher A1186 that we bought off Godders a couple of years ago (II

Re: OT - silly question for advanced mac users

2013-08-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 08:20:52PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: > Mrs has an old Powerbook G4 and looks like the inverter has died, > backlight okay. I'm cloning her stuff (via target disk mode) onto an > external HD so she can boot up in her little world on another machine > while I get a new boar