Re: worrying that image to death... (was: Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

On Jan 6, 2005, at 12:42 AM, Bob W wrote: The 2nd one almost has a story: http://www.web-options.com/joninkrakow_53435_crop2.jpg But basically, you were standing in the wrong place, and too far away. Unfortunately the balance of lighting is not too good. Did you use auto exposure? It doesn't seem t

Re: worrying that image to death... (was: Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

On Jan 6, 2005, at 12:39 AM, John Coyle wrote: I think then you might get the sort of effect that was seen in the film "Zardov", where the giant face dominated the humans in frame, and which is what I think you were trying to get? Believe it or not, I've never heard of the film!!! Now I need to

Re: worrying that image to death... (was: Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

Hi, Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 8:53:35 PM, Jon wrote: > I had an image last winter that I "worried" to death. There was a [...] > > Somehow, it just lacks the impact I felt while standing there. What was it that made such an impact? Did you try to

Re: worrying that image to death... (was: Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

6:53 AM Subject: worrying that image to death... (was: Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop I had an image last winter that I "worried" to death. There was a sculptor who had his work displayed in the main market in Krakow. One of his sculptures was a large face, stari

worrying that image to death... (was: Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

I had an image last winter that I "worried" to death. There was a sculptor who had his work displayed in the main market in Krakow. One of his sculptures was a large face, staring into the main tourist trap er, attraction on the center, called the "Cloth Hall." I thought it was rather haunt

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

It was rather bland when photographed in color on some other occasions, which is in part why I fiddled with filters and Photoshop. I don't know if it's a better photo as a result, still, the exercise of trying to make something from what was, imo, a failed photo, was worth the effort. Shel > F

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

Thanks for your comments. It was fun playing with the image ... ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/owsign.html > Very nice, almost surreal. A tad less yellow perhaps? Or maybe my > monitor is saturating it more than it sh

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Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Hi Jon ... > > It's nice to know that you've found something that resonates for you in the > photograph. > > I shot a fair number of similar frames that day, all within a span of two > or three minutes, each with a slightly different position of the gun, a > slightly differ

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/owsign.html I've been fiddling around with this sign off and o for a year or so. Might finally have a keeper. What you see is the result of catching a good light, using an appropriate warming filter, and a final polish in PS ... Comment

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Hi ... There's no such thing as a straight B&W version for this scene. It was photographed on past-date Extachrome. Of course, it's always possible to do a PS conversion to B&W. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Albano Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Very surrealist, Shel. I like the toning,

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Hi, Tuesday, January 4, 2005, 4:08:39 PM, Shel wrote: [...] > It's been fun, and a project like this may never really end. There will > always be another snap, another POV for looking at the scene. It's not a > big deal, and as Ann suggested, maybe I'm putting more time into it than > it's wor

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

Hi Jon ... It's nice to know that you've found something that resonates for you in the photograph. I shot a fair number of similar frames that day, all within a span of two or three minutes, each with a slightly different position of the gun, a slightly different relationship between the gun and

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Hi Rob ... Titles ... I never know whether to use 'em or not, or what they should say. Maybe I should just call the posts Untitled #1, etc. There may be some shots with the gun bigger in the frame. Took a lot of pics from different angles and with different lenses over the last year or so. Ther

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Thanks, Cotty ... I wanted an over-the-top look and feel to the pic, so I cranked the Hue/Sat up a bit when doing the final PS adjustments. I may play a bit with toning it down, making a few more adjustments. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >http://home.earthlin

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Very surrealist, Shel. I like the toning, but I would like to see a straight b&w version too. Great shot Regards = Albano Garcia Photography & Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo

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Jon Glass wrote: P.S. Today will be my last day to post here for a while. We are flying to the States in exactly two weeks, and I'm just too busy getting ready, and when we get there, we won't have any reliable internet access for I don't know how long. I'll be accumulating my email in my Gmail

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

On 3 Jan 2005 at 16:11, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/owsign.html > > I've been fiddling around with this sign off and o for a year or so. Might > finally have a keeper. What you see is the result of catching a good light, > using an appropriate warming filter, an

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

On 3/1/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/owsign.html > >I've been fiddling around with this sign off and o for a year or so. Might >finally have a keeper. What you see is the result of catching a good >light, using an appropriate warming filter

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

On Jan 4, 2005, at 8:32 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Your description is about the same for me Frank. It is just floating there and I'm not sure what to make of it. Maybe if there were lettering for the sign it would gel better for me. Not that I'm a critic or anything, but I find that the ambivalence

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

Your description is about the same for me Frank. It is just floating there and I'm not sure what to make of it. Maybe if there were lettering for the sign it would gel better for me. Certainly the technical aspects of the image are fine, just seems incomplete or something. Bruce Monday, Janua

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

As I told Juan in an earlier message, the gun is on a rod attached to a long, heavy pole. If you look carefully you can see it. The photo isn't in any way meant to be a realistic or literal interpretation, and I wanted to at least suggest that the gun was floating or not attached to anything, so

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

Hi! SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/owsign.html SB> I've been fiddling around with this sign off and o for a year or so. Might SB> finally have a keeper. What you see is the result of catching a good SB> light, using an appropriate warming filter, and a final polish in PS ... SB> Comme

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

The photo wasn't made for the critics, so this one stands or falls as it is. However, there are a few with the top of the store included, as well as from other angles and perspectives. This is the one that's here now ;-)) Why is it important to know how big the gun is, or is it important? If t

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Why what, Jack? I don't know if I would critique it ... what do YOU say? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Shel, > Why? > I'm curious as to how you might critique this image > were it someone else's. > I'm only trying to learn. :] > > Jack > > --- Shel Beli

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Just curious, in what way is the sky not convincing? Convincing of what? What is meant by this not being my kind of shot? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > and... Shel, I think you worked too much at this - and the sky isn't quite > convincing either. > N

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:49:24 -0800, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No need to apologize Frank ... > What visual context might you need - the building, words on the sign, > color, B&W ... ? I don't know. I've been thinking about it a bit during the evening, and I like the colour - I do

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

In a message dated 1/3/2005 4:13:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/owsign.html I've been fiddling around with this sign off and o for a year or so. Might finally have a keeper. What you see is the result of catching a good light, using a

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Shel, Why? I'm curious as to how you might critique this image were it someone else's. I'm only trying to learn. :] Jack --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No need to apologize Frank ... > What visual context might you need - the building, > words on the sign, > color, B&W ... ? >

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frank theriault wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:11:23 -0800, Shel Belinkoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/owsign.html > > > > I've been fiddling around with this sign off and o for a year or so. Might > > finally have a keeper. What you see is the result of

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

Hi, Tuesday, January 4, 2005, 12:11:23 AM, Shel wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/owsign.html > I've been fiddling around with this sign off and o for a year or so. Might > finally have a keeper. What you see is the result of catching a good > light, using an appropriate warming fi

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No need to apologize Frank ... What visual context might you need - the building, words on the sign, color, B&W ... ? Shel > [Original Message] > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/owsign.html > > > > I've been fiddling around with this sign of

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

Hi Juan ... Thanks! The gun is mounted on a steel rod which is attached to a big, sturdy light pole. If you look carefully you should be able to see the steel rod and the tip of the pole. However, I tried to minimize their intrusion into this photo. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Juan Bu

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:32:13 -0800, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Funny, I liked exactly because of the lack of context. I actually > ignored the title, as I usually do--sometimes photographers (not Shel, > at least on this one) rely on them too much I think. > > The image has a surreal

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Funny, I liked exactly because of the lack of context. I actually ignored the title, as I usually do--sometimes photographers (not Shel, at least on this one) rely on them too much I think. The image has a surreal quality to it, I think that's what hel was going after. j On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:2

Re: PAW PESO - The Sign Above the Gun Shop

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:11:23 -0800, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/owsign.html > > I've been fiddling around with this sign off and o for a year or so. Might > finally have a keeper. What you see is the result of catching a good > light, using an

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Nice surreal image, Shel. What is holding up the gun? I can't see anything down there... Cheers, j On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:11:23 -0800, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/owsign.html > > I've been fiddling around with this sign off and o for a year