Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Sunny Chung wrote: I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind because I was partially baffled at the ridiculous prices I was seeing for these tripods (ex: $200 - $500) I guess if I had a full time job, that would be

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread Lon Williamson
I recommend looking at the Slik 300DX instead of the Bogen 3001. We have both in our household. The Slik gets a little taller, is cheaper, feels sturdier and comes with a nice pan/tilt head. What I like about the most, though, is the legs occupy a lot more area; it is far less tippy than the

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread brooksdj
If i stay with the tripod i have now, its not here but i think it is the Manfotto 28, big double aluminum tube legs thing, is there a recommended head for macro. I don't think this tripod closes down much below 24-26 but i would need to get closer obvisously. Is there a head with a slide

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma Any head reccomendations or would one be better of buy a second pod specifically for macro. If it's the tripod you loaned me at GFM, it's an 028 with some sort of little boy head on it. I did appreciate

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread brooksdj
suited. I have the 486RC2 ball head on my mono pod. That should be sturdy enough then to handle rails.? Dave - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma Any head reccomendations or would one be better of buy

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma I have the 486RC2 ball head on my mono pod. That should be sturdy enough then to handle rails.? That should support a rail quite nicely. William Robb

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Malcolm Smith
Shel Belinkoff wrote: A good one, appropriately chosen, can last a lifetime, and can be used with long, heavy lenses, medium format as well as 35mm. The worst investment I ever made was an inexpensive tripod. Yes, been there. Very poor investment a cheap tripod, and one I won't repeat.

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Sunny Chung
I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind because I was partially baffled at the ridiculous prices I was seeing for these tripods (ex: $200 - $500) I guess if I had a full time job, that would be a reasonable price but

Re: RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread mike wilson
From: Sunny Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/18 Wed AM 09:52:24 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I don't think people were offended as much as concerned that you didn't

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Check out ebay. I bought both of my tripods used for less than half the cost of a new one, and they're both quite excellent. Paul On Jan 18, 2006, at 4:52 AM, Sunny Chung wrote: I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind because I was partially baffled at the ridiculous prices I was seeing for these tripods (ex: $200 - $500) I guess if I had a full time job, that would be a reasonable

Re: RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, mike wilson wrote: _Everyone_ has a tight budget, they are just different. Find the one you want and then look for the best price you can. Unlike some other photographic equipment, tripods can often be found in (functionally) as good as new condition. I second that;

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The newer Promaster tripods are really worth a look. Construction is decent. They're less expensive and lighter than Bogen/Manfrotto stuff. And for some of them the center post is also a monopod. And, if you're out walking a lot at night, consider investing in a high-$$$ light-weight tripod.

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Rob Studdert wrote: What you have to consider is that if you make the right choice in choosing your silly tripod it will likely outlast all your other photo gear. It's worth thinking about and spending money on, the cheap ones generally don't do the intended job very well and will fall apart

Re: Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread mike wilson
From: Krisjanis Linkevics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/18 Wed PM 12:15:35 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind because I was partially baffled

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're less expensive and lighter than Bogen/Manfrotto stuff. I am not an authority, but I think that lightness is a drawback for a tripod: it is just not steady enough. Kostas

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kostas Kavoussanakis Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:20:29 -0800 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're less expensive and lighter than Bogen/Manfrotto stuff. I am not an authority, but I think that lightness is a drawback for a tripod: it is just not steady enough. Kostas Generally

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Rick Womer
A tripod that stays at home or in the trunk of the car because it's too heavy to carry comfortably is worse than no tripod at all: The money is spent, but there is no benefit. For years I used a very sturdy, 3.5kg Slik tripod, but usually left it behind! A few years ago I got a Velbon Maxi

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Malcolm Smith
Rick Womer wrote: A tripod that stays at home or in the trunk of the car because it's too heavy to carry comfortably is worse than no tripod at all: The money is spent, but there is no benefit. A heavy tripod is just natures way of telling you to get fitter. Malcolm

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind because I was partially baffled at the ridiculous prices I was seeing for these tripods (ex: $200 - $500) I guess if I had a full time job

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
My experience with Promaster gear has been mixed. I'd suggest looking very carefully at any product carrying that name. Shel [Original Message] From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re: Promaster tripods: They're less expensive and lighter than Bogen/Manfrotto stuff. I

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Jack Davis
Look for a photo swap-meet. Not knowing what size lenses/bodies you plan use on it, can only suggest you look for something fits your definition of substantial. My primary tripod is a Bogen 3021 with their Pro ball head. Also, own a light weight 3001 with a mini-ball head for those times when much

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Don Sanderson
the Velbon. HTH Don -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:37 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma I don't think anyone was offended. Certainly not me. If you can't afford a new tripod, but a good

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
What do you think about the 190DB+141RC combo? I'm also looking for a tripod, but I'm not sure if I should go with this combo or spend a little (my budget is very tight right now) more for the Pro version. I would like to experiment with macro, maybe being able to mount the center column

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 18, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Don Sanderson wrote: Bogen 3001, Light but very sturdy, one of the least expensive full height tripods. Bogen 3021 BPRO, Heavier, sturdier, center column can be mounted horizontally (Very handy), a bit more expensive. Those were the two tripods that came to mind

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Don Williams
I don't know why you should complain about 3.5 kg. The Manfrotto 75 I use weighs 5.3kg and I carry it around the forest all the time. Of course I usually have a backache that last a week afterwards. But what a difference it makes with the 400mm Sigma APO. I haven't used this lens on the *ist

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Don Sanderson
and pretty solid. Don -Original Message- From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:27 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma What do you think about the 190DB+141RC combo? I'm also looking for a tripod, but I'm

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Gonz
I was in the same situation not too long ago. I had an older tripod that I purchased when I was in college, a heavy Sears jobbie. The legs worked ok, and it was sturdy, but it was mainly the head that drove me crazy. With a heavyish lens, it would droop a little once you locked it and let

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Adam Maas
Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: What do you think about the 190DB+141RC combo? I'm also looking for a tripod, but I'm not sure if I should go with this combo or spend a little (my budget is very tight right now) more for the Pro version. I would like to experiment with macro, maybe being able to

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Tom C
PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:59:51 - cheap tripods are a false economy. The best way to buy a tripod is to take your equipment into a shop that has a large range, and try them out. It's particularly

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Tom C
In that case a $12 tripod works wonders! :-) Tom C. From: Sunny Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:52:24 -0500 I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Jens Bladt
Hello Sunny A tripod isn't silly! Very often it's a better investment than an expensive lens and will provide you with sharp images for much less money, since you can get rid of unsharpness caused by movement/motion and/or allow you to use the optimal aperture for the job. If you don't want to

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Sunny Chung
I have borrowed a friend's manfretto tripod with a 322RC2 head once, and I did not like how the grip obstructed you from tilting the camera too far back. So if you were shooting up at something, you had to have the camera mounted a certain way, with the grip to the side or in the front. Is this

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Gonz
Taken with the setup I described, Bogen 3xxx + 322RC2 head, pointed up. http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/3/IMGP6113.jpg It is hard to point higher up than this, but do you need that? If you often do, then a 3 way head might be better. Sunny Chung wrote: I have borrowed a friend's

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Don Sanderson
-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma I have borrowed a friend's manfretto tripod with a 322RC2 head once, and I did not like how the grip obstructed you from tilting the camera too far back. So if you were shooting up at something, you had to have the camera mounted a certain way

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 18, 2006, at 10:18 AM, Sunny Chung wrote: I have borrowed a friend's manfretto tripod with a 322RC2 head once, and I did not like how the grip obstructed you from tilting the camera too far back. So if you were shooting up at something, you had to have the camera mounted a certain way,

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Joseph Tainter
I haven't read all the posts on this thread so I don't know if this has been mentioned. No doubt you've gotten a lot of tripod recommendations (if the list isn't being silly today). I recall someone once writing -- and this has been my experience -- that people tend to own either no tripods

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Bob W
Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2006 14:37 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma I don't think anyone was offended. Certainly not me. If you can't afford a new tripod, but a good used one. As Bob Walkden suggested, look

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/06, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: A heavy tripod is just natures way of telling you to get fitter. Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/1/06, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: A heavy tripod is just natures way of telling you to get fitter. Mark! I thought a heavy tripod was nature's way of telling you to work overtime so you can afford carbon fiber! -- Mark Roberts

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Carlos Royo
Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: What do you think about the 190DB+141RC combo? I'm also looking for a tripod, but I'm not sure if I should go with this combo or spend a little (my budget is very tight right now) more for the Pro version. I would like to experiment with macro, maybe being able to

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I thought a heavy tripod was nature's way of telling you to work overtime so you can afford carbon fiber! LOL Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/06, Carlos Royo, discombobulated, unleashed: I have got the 190B, 141 RC 3-D head and 486 RC2 ballhead. Unless you have a reason to prioritize the purchase of the 141 RC, go for a ballhead. It is lighter, more compact and faster to use. Since I got the ballhead, I don't use the 141 RC

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jan 2006 at 8:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spending $200 to $500 on a quality, solid, carbon fibre unit for a hiker shooting medium-lenth or wide angle lenses on 135 or medium may be suitable. For 4x5 8x10, when there's any wind at all, the big video unit comes out. The beauty of

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jan 2006 at 12:49, Joseph Tainter wrote: I recall someone once writing -- and this has been my experience -- that people tend to own either no tripods or several. One can't do all jobs. I currently have four tripods and two monopods. LOL, yes, I have four tripods, one monopod, five

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Jens Bladt
://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Carlos Royo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. januar 2006 22:50 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Tripod Dilemma Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: What do you think about the 190DB+141RC combo? I'm also looking for a tripod, but I'm not sure if I

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
A heavy tripod is just natures way of telling you to get fitter. Or get a sherpa! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:34 AM Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma Rick Womer wrote

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/18/2006 6:07:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For years I used a very sturdy, 3.5kg Slik tripod, but usually left it behind! A few years ago I got a Velbon Maxi 343E, and I carry it often. Not as sturdy and stable as the Slik, for sure, but with the

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jan 2006 at 0:30, Sunny Chung wrote: I know its hard to believe with all the night shots I have in my gallery, but I still do not own a tripod. Now that I'm looking for one, I'm extremely stumped. Should I buy a generic $12 tripod, or invest in a name brand like bogen/manfrotto. I

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-17 Thread Bob W
cheap tripods are a false economy. The best way to buy a tripod is to take your equipment into a shop that has a large range, and try them out. It's particularly worth experimenting with the way the legs lock unlock. It can be very annoying and frustrating if you don't get on well with the

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Tripods aren't silly. That you choose to call them silly indicates that you don't appreciate how valuable they can be. They are valuable tools for almost every photographer. A good one, appropriately chosen, can last a lifetime, and can be used with long, heavy lenses, medium format as well as