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>> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?
>> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:15:43 -0600
>>
>> Actually Pentax DSLR's are D
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From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?
> Well I guess they're all generically called APS-C regardless of actual
> physical dimensions.
I figure it's close enough for folk music.
Sometimes, it is best to
;
>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
>numbered."
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>>From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:20:27 -0600
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>Funny that I've seen the APS-C nomenclature wrecklessly bandied about here
>(me too) regarding sub-35mm digital sensors, when in reality that's
d, debriefed or
numbered."
>From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?
>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:15:43 -0600
>
>Actually Pentax DSLR's are
Yes they are, but Pentax doesn't make VR/IS lenses to compete with
SR-equipped bodies.
Canon has a good reason to stick to IS lenses or do both, the full-frame
bodies. Nikon doesn't.
-Adam
Tom C wrote:
> Actually Pentax DSLR's are DX format (23.5 x 15.7 mm) also, aren't they,
> using the sam
Actually Pentax DSLR's are DX format (23.5 x 15.7 mm) also, aren't they,
using the same Sony sensors (at least on the *ist D)?
Tom C.
"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered."
>
>Nikon is the one in a real bind, with their concentration on DX format
>bod
On 22/8/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I would expect them to start implementing anti-shake/image-stabilization in
>most if not all new model bodies, sell off the existing IS lens stock,
>replacing it with lenses using the same optical formula, without the IS.
Can't see that happening.
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Tom C wrote:
> Only to be regained by the ability to sell more camera bodies and lower cost
> high quailty lenses w/o the expensive AS built in.
You don't mean to say that Canon had better for the customer and more
affordable technology available to them but preferred to scr
Tom C wrote:
> I suspect they will gain more in sales of bodies and systems across the
> board than they would lose on the relatively fewer sales of high-margin IS
> lenses.
>
> If they don't take this route they will be making a major marketing faux-pas
> which will benefit all other DLSR mfrs.
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Tom C wrote:
>
>
>>I would expect Canon to implement in-body anti-shake at the soonest
>>possible
>>time. No information to that, just common sense.
>
>
> Won't that destroy the market for their pricey lenses with anti-shake
> in them?
>
ws on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:22:07 -0400
I suspect that optical anti-shake is not really that expensive to
manufacture. They probably just have a very high profit margin on them.
You can probably expect the price to come down instead. It will be
interesting to
> high quailty lenses w/o the expensive AS built in.
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> Tom C.
>
> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
> numbered."
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> From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis
d, briefed, debriefed or
numbered."
From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:36:07 +0100
Of course it will, which
Only if they introduce less pricey lenses of equal aperture and focal
lengths to those pricey lenses. Plus internal IS probably won't work
with FF camera bodies, at least not as currently configured. I doubt
many Digital Rebel users are buying IS 80-200 F2.8 L glass. Canon has
been in the en
Of course it will, which is why they have a bit of a dilemma.
It will be most interesting to see whether they decide to sacrifice sales
of low-end cameras, or high-end IS lenses.
John
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:20:21 +0100, Aaron Reynolds
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On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Tom C wrote:
> I would expect Canon to implement in-body anti-shake at the soonest
> possible
> time. No
On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Tom C wrote:
> I would expect Canon to implement in-body anti-shake at the soonest
> possible
> time. No information to that, just common sense.
Won't that destroy the market for their pricey lenses with anti-shake
in them?
-Aaron
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Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:09:42 EDT
In a message dated 8/21/2006 1:23:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I currently shoot ME Super with 35-105 f/3.5 and 70-210 f/4 but would
rather move
to auto-focus s
Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote:
> On 8/22/06, Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As for speed, I've tried the 350D only with the kit lens, and it didn't
>> strike me as being faster than what I'm used to from older film
>> Pentaxes. As people are reporting a somewhat significant speedup on t
t;
> I have the Canon 300D and like it quite a bit. However, the 350D (Digital
> Rebel XT) is supposed to have the worst viewfinder of probably all the Canon
> DSLRs. Worse than the 300D. It's why I never upgraded from 6mp to 8mp (at the
> lower end).
>
> Whereas most of t
On 8/22/06, Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As for speed, I've tried the 350D only with the kit lens, and it didn't
> strike me as being faster than what I'm used to from older film
> Pentaxes. As people are reporting a somewhat significant speedup on the
> K100D compared to older digita
=
Stupid question on this list, everyone is going to tell you the K100D is
better. :-)
I have the Canon 300D and like it quite a bit. However, the 350D (Digital
Rebel XT) is supposed to have the worst viewfinder of probably all the Canon
DSLRs. Worse than the 300D. It's why I
I've heard that complaint, but I have not experienced it -- I've shot about
20,000 frames on my DS2, significantly more than half of them with either the
A* 400 2.8 or the A* 200 2.8 wide open, and I've found the focus indicator to
be very accurate and useful. However, when shooting with such n
icantly better lens than the Canon 18-55, with better build,
>>quick-shift focus, included hood and distinctly superior optics.
>>
>>The AF on the Rebel XT is faster, especially with USM lenses and in
>>lower light. The AF on the Pentax's is quite acceptable
g mode, I would like to get your views/opinion
>on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D) assuming no existing investment in
>lenses/flashes? The Pentax kit is around $100 cheaper in the US. Is
>Canon auto-focus better than the Pentax under normal lighting
>conditions? I am just an occasiona
On 21/8/06, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed:
>It also seems like most people here agree that the Pentax AF is
>generally more accurate than the competitor's systems (including I
>suppose, Canon's.) Haven't done a lot of comparisons myself.
Toralf, it depends on the camera. I had a Canon
> I currently shoot ME Super with 35-105 f/3.5 and 70-210 f/4 but would
> rather move
> to auto-focus since I not too sure if I can use MF lenses without any
> manual focus assist on the K100D.
>
Surely, the K100D has manual focus assist, too? OK, it doesn't come with
a split-image screen or a
18-55, with better build,
> quick-shift focus, included hood and distinctly superior optics.
>
> The AF on the Rebel XT is faster, especially with USM lenses and in
> lower light. The AF on the Pentax's is quite acceptable and the K100D is
> known to have faster AF than the m
On 8/21/06, Gaurav Aggarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Coming out of the lurking mode, I would like to get your views/opinion
> on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D) assuming no existing investment in
> lenses/flashes? The Pentax kit is around $100 cheaper in the US. Is
ld,
quick-shift focus, included hood and distinctly superior optics.
The AF on the Rebel XT is faster, especially with USM lenses and in
lower light. The AF on the Pentax's is quite acceptable and the K100D is
known to have faster AF than the models I've shot.
The advantages of
Hi,
Coming out of the lurking mode, I would like to get your views/opinion
on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D) assuming no existing investment in
lenses/flashes? The Pentax kit is around $100 cheaper in the US. Is
Canon auto-focus better than the Pentax under normal lighting
conditions? I am just
Cory Papenfuss wrote:
That would be nice. I also don't quite understand the MF focus
assist... it only blinks in the center? Does that mean that when
using an AF lens the assist will only use the center point?
I think so but that doesn't bother me much.
Does Pentax accept any form of
On 16 Jun 2005 at 16:03, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> Possibly even the profile (or equivalent) to the preset modes in the
> camera (daylight, flash, tungsten, etc).
That would be good and not at all difficult for them to do (now). None of the
pre-set WBs in ACR 2.3 align with the *ist D pre-set WBs
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 20:03, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> That's the strange menu setting of, "OK button is temp MF or AE"
> or something, right?
Yes and I find it very useful
- Plastic lens mount on the kit lens seems laughable, but it looks great
through the viewfinder.
- AF segments seem more responsive and obvious than the -DS
On the -DS the AF segments should (as an option) stay lit when subject
is in focus, the Focus OK thing at the bottom is hard to see and forc
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 18:18, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> Canon Rebel XT (...) compared to my -DS:
>
> - Much more "plasticy" feel.
> - Color LCD seems visibly much coarser.
> - B&W LCD seems odd on the back, but mainly because I'm used to it on top.
I would actua
I have a friend who just bought a Canon Rebel XT. He's a "path of
least resistance" kinda guy and already had some Canon gear, so it was a
no-brainer. I haven't taken any photos with it (no CF here), but so far I
can say the following as compared to my -DS:
- Much
On 19 Mar 2005 at 11:53, Christian wrote:
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (sorry, couldn't type without busting out laughing)
Apparently it's therapeutic (I don't mean waiting for Pentax) LOL
Rob Studdert
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From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list"
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel XT vs *ist D.
> On 19/3/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Go out and buy a Ds.
> >Yo
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From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>
> > I don't own a Ds. I can only compare to what I've got.
> >
>
> Go out and buy a Ds.
> You know you want one.
Actually, I have about as much interest in the Ds as I do in having my
wisdom teeth put back in my mouth and
On 19/3/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Go out and buy a Ds.
>You know you want one.
Hmm. Christian?? ;-]
Cheers,
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From: "Christian"
Subject: Re: Rebel XT vs *ist D.
I don't own a Ds. I can only compare to what I've got.
Go out and buy a Ds.
You know you want one.
William Robb
In a message dated 3/19/2005 6:17:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Logically, I think it should be compared to the DS, not the D.
>
> Marnie aka Doe ;-)
>
I don't own a Ds. I can only compare to what I've got.
Christian
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LOL. Well,
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Logically, I think it should be compared to the DS, not the D.
>
> Marnie aka Doe ;-)
>
I don't own a Ds. I can only compare to what I've got.
Christian
In a message dated 3/18/2005 1:00:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rebel XT vs *ist D.
My friend just picked up his Rebel XT so a little side-by-side
comparison was in order:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=12710872
--
Chris
Sure looks a lot more compact than Canon's usual offerings, until you
put that huge "Cannon" lens on it.
Christian wrote:
Rebel XT vs *ist D.
My friend just picked up his Rebel XT so a little side-by-side
comparison was in order:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?for
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 18 Mar 2005 at 15:58, Christian wrote:
>
> > Rebel XT vs *ist D.
> >
> > My friend just picked up his Rebel XT so a little side-by-side
> > comparison was in order:
> &
On 18 Mar 2005 at 15:58, Christian wrote:
> Rebel XT vs *ist D.
>
> My friend just picked up his Rebel XT so a little side-by-side
> comparison was in order:
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=12710872
It's hardly a monster compared to
Rebel XT vs *ist D.
My friend just picked up his Rebel XT so a little side-by-side
comparison was in order:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=12710872
--
Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Large buffer for fast shooting, 8mp to make somewhat larger prints,
(also allows for more cropping). Small size with a good grip, oh wait
the *ist-Ds already has that. The first two items. On the other hand
it's not enough better than the *ist-D or Ds to make it worth the hassle
of changing s
It's small, it's light, it's cheap; It's technically very capable
(8MP, 3fps, 14(JPEG)-shot buffer, RAW+JPEG, optional grip). I'd
need to get one in my hands to see how it feels, and to see if the
control layout works for me (I prefer the D to the simplified DS,
so I suspect I'd like the extra de
What features on the XT are to like?
Jim A.
> Derby Chang mused:
>>
>> On a related note, I notice the Canon supports FAT32. Mmm...FAT32=2
>> Terabytes of storage. But I don't know if I'd want a huge number of
>> unbackedup images on a large CF card. Especially on a FAT file system.
>>
>> The
Derby Chang mused:
>
> On a related note, I notice the Canon supports FAT32. Mmm...FAT32=2
> Terabytes of storage. But I don't know if I'd want a huge number of
> unbackedup images on a large CF card. Especially on a FAT file system.
>
> The *istDS manual doesn't seem to say too much about it,
February 19, 2005 6:28 AM
Subject: Rebel XT
On a related note, I notice the Canon supports FAT32. Mmm...FAT32=2
Terabytes of storage. But I don't know if I'd want a huge number of
unbackedup images on a large CF card. Especially on a FAT file system.
The *istDS manual doesn't seem
I'm sure this puppy is going to be a killer seller this year. How could
it not? 8 Mega-pickles, sexy looking battery grip, separate positions
for servo and one-shot AF, orientation sensor, super price. And I really
do like the idea of the LCD screen on the back rather than the top of
the body,
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