Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-11 Thread David Parsons
The problem is there are other photographers out there who are charging $15 and making money off of it. They use cheap labor and churn out the pictures fast. They are making money by being the exclusive provider of services and offering up-sells of the basic package. I personally wouldn't pay mo

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-10 Thread Walter Gilbert
And, just like that, I discover that Walgreens has a much better package for $9.99. Not too shabby. On 9/10/2010 4:05 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Actually, when I called her yesterday, she said she'd paid a little over $30 for a package similar to the "Sports Package". So, that's right i

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-10 Thread Walter Gilbert
Actually, when I called her yesterday, she said she'd paid a little over $30 for a package similar to the "Sports Package". So, that's right in my range. I will check around to see if I can get a better price, though. But, I live in a pretty small town, so the options -- at least as far a

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-10 Thread John Sessoms
From: Walter Gilbert Also, it just occurred to me that I can call my sister to find out what she's been paying for pictures of her school-aged kids, and see if I can low-ball that a smidgen, given my lack of experience or sizable portfolio. I think you're going to find Walmart's price is prett

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-10 Thread P N Stenquist
On Sep 10, 2010, at 3:55 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: pnstenqu...@comcast.net Say there are 20 team members and you spend 2 hours shooting. At $50 an hour that's a hundred bucks. Split 20 ways, that's $5 per team member. Package from Walmart is $15, so your cost per package is $20. Your pr

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-10 Thread John Sessoms
From: pnstenqu...@comcast.net Say there are 20 team members and you spend 2 hours shooting. At $50 an hour that's a hundred bucks. Split 20 ways, that's $5 per team member. Package from Walmart is $15, so your cost per package is $20. Your price should be between $80 and $140 per package. Go

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-10 Thread Walter Gilbert
I agree, Tom. I figure I'll start out doubling it -- $30 per pkg. That seems like a reasonable price, and given that I don't have any experience at this type of photography at all, I wouldn't feel comfortable asking more than that, really. Thanks for the input. -- Walt On 9/10/2010 12:53

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-10 Thread Tom C
If it were me I'd double or triple the Walmart price and call it good. $50 or less is something most parents would find reasonable and it's not a lot of money for you, but it does compensate you a bit for your time. Tom C. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > >  Hi all, > >

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-09 Thread Walter Gilbert
That's $240 per team, not per person -- which, I think, would be exorbitant. -- Walt On 9/9/2010 4:06 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote: Maybe I'm just an old poop, but he would never get $240 out of me, and I guess alot of other parents today. Jerry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@p

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-09 Thread Jerry in Arizona
Maybe I'm just an old poop, but he would never get $240 out of me, and I guess alot of other parents today. Jerry < Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed   Hi Paul, I think you've got a pretty good handle on the photography I'm thinking about here.  And, considering t

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-09 Thread Walter Gilbert
Hi Paul, I think you've got a pretty good handle on the photography I'm thinking about here. And, considering the friend I spoke to was talking about seven different teams, that $240 per team (or thereabout) will add up to a nice gear purchase for future use. Also, it just occurred to me

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-09 Thread Walter Gilbert
Hi Igor, Thanks so much for taking the time to answer in such detail. You've given me quite a bit to think about, here. Given that I'm brand-spanking-new at this, I'm hesitant to dive in with too much ambition. As I mentioned in my reply to John, I envisioned a kind of "picture mill" sit

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-09 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thanks, John. I think that's a probably an excellent guide to go by down the road when I do more involved portraiture. What I'm envisioning in this situation is more like pictures made at school, where they move them through like cattle. I figure, if I can do a decent job at making the bas

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-09 Thread pnstenquist
- "John Sessoms" wrote: > From: Walter Gilbert > > Hi all, > > > > So, here's my situation. I ran into an old high school friend > who's > > coaching several athletic teams. He's seen some of my photography > and > > asked if I'd be interested in doing some team photos for them -- > socc

Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-09 Thread Igor Roshchin
Walter, First, a disclaimer. I don't think my opinion would be a representative one on this matter either from a typical photographer's point of view, or from the potential clients': I don't fit the typical profile. So, take it with a grain of salt. What to charge - is a hard question. In any c

RE: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: Walter Gilbert Hi all, So, here's my situation. I ran into an old high school friend who's coaching several athletic teams. He's seen some of my photography and asked if I'd be interested in doing some team photos for them -- soccer and basketball. I told him I'd be interested in doin

Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?

2010-09-09 Thread Walter Gilbert
Hi all, So, here's my situation. I ran into an old high school friend who's coaching several athletic teams. He's seen some of my photography and asked if I'd be interested in doing some team photos for them -- soccer and basketball. I told him I'd be interested in doing it, but I've neve