Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-02-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
Frank is yet another innocent victim of autofocus. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:14 PM, frank theriault wrote: From: Larry Colen OK, then working autofocus, or any focus, not necessary. Image stabilization, not necessary. You are

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-02-03 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Frank is yet another innocent victim of autofocus. Sadly, this is true... ;-) cheers, the innocent victim -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-02-02 Thread frank theriault
From: Larry Colen OK, then working autofocus, or any focus, not necessary. Image stabilization, not necessary. You are hereby forbidden from criticizing a photo for poor focus, motion blur, or any lack of clarity. So all of mine are still in the running, then. Whew! ;-) cheers, frank --

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-02-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
So while all this chatter about kitchen implements and how much gear is enough gear, etc, has been going on, my short list got shorter... A MacBook Pro 13 arrived. My PowerBook G4 15 laptop is now officially retired. Tonight I'll install the 500G drive and 8G RAM, then set it up. A lovely little

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:14 PM, frank theriault wrote: From: Larry Colen OK, then working autofocus, or any focus, not necessary. Image stabilization, not necessary. You are hereby forbidden from criticizing a photo for poor focus, motion blur, or any lack of clarity. So all of mine are

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-02-01 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/31/2011 9:39 PM, John Sessoms wrote: And again, while equipment does matter, the photographer using the equipment matters more. You grok rightly, John. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-02-01 Thread eckinator
2011/2/1 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: It's hot enough to burn the non-stick coating if the pan has one, releasing poisonous fumes. totally. my non-stick goes up to 270 °C btw I checked and some Le Creuset wares only go up to 190°C so they seem to use different coatings It will also

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-02-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb On 31/01/2011 7:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote: You can re-season cast iron. In fact, if you really screw up the seasoning on a cast iron pan, one of the steps to re-seasoning is to burn the old seasoning off to give you a uniform surface for re-seasoning. I found a Lodge

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/30/2011 5:52 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Actually, I think this has been in general rather even-tempered discussion. ;-) You, Boris, are always courteous. Thank you, Steve. So far I haven't been able bump into the reason not to be courteous, as you put it. I don't think I'm

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/31/2011 5:10 AM, William Robb wrote: If a good photographer can overcome bad equipment, why is it such a leap of logic that better equipment may well help a mediocre photographer to take better pictures? Better technically - sure. They will be better exposed, in sharper focus, etc.

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:47 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 1/31/2011 5:10 AM, William Robb wrote: If a good photographer can overcome bad equipment, why is it such a leap of logic that better equipment may well help a mediocre photographer to take better pictures? Better technically - sure.

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/31/2011 10:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote: If the quality of the camera didn't matter, people would be able to get good pictures with Canon gear. /Opening the clothes cabinet looking for anti-flame jacket to wrap around you/ /grin/ Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 30/1/11, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: If a good photographer can overcome bad equipment, why is it such a leap of logic that better equipment may well help a mediocre photographer to take better pictures? How about better equipment making the process easier/more pleasurable? If

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling
Cotty and Robb agree, the end is nigh. On 1/31/2011 7:52 AM, Cotty wrote: On 30/1/11, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: If a good photographer can overcome bad equipment, why is it such a leap of logic that better equipment may well help a mediocre photographer to take better

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread John Sessoms
From: Ken Waller For those that think better equipment makes a photographer better (and assuming he would then take better images) I throw this out for you to tell me how 'better' equipment would make this a better photo. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12483032 Taken with K20D,

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread John Sessoms
From: Steven Desjardins You should just spend your money on better pans. Funny you should mention that; a new commercial grade stock pot is on my short list. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3413 - Release Date:

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread eckinator
Yeah. I urgently need to replace my worn out 28 cm Gastrolux with something uncoated. I am thinking forged iron since I already have a cast iron pan. I'll never buy coated again; plus Gastrolux won't recoat that € 130 piece of useless metal. Other places do it but PTFE only and I refuse to let

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread wendy beard
You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment. Err - oh wait ;-) :-p Wendy (actually, there's a reason I have both systems. I really ~can't~ get the shots I want with Pentax. And I've tried) On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If the quality of

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:00 AM, wendy beard wrote: You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment. Err - oh wait ;-) :-p Wendy (actually, there's a reason I have both systems. I really ~can't~ get the shots I want with Pentax. And I've tried) Every system has it's strengths

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread John Sessoms
It occurs to me that I might explain why I take the position I do about the idea that equipment can make you a better photographer. Better equipment will allow you to express the better photographer within you more easily, but won't by itself make you a better photographer. To me better

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman On 1/31/2011 5:10 AM, William Robb wrote: If a good photographer can overcome bad equipment, why is it such a leap of logic that better equipment may well help a mediocre photographer to take better pictures? Better technically - sure. They will be better exposed, in

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:24 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Steven Desjardins You should just spend your money on better pans. Funny you should mention that; a new commercial grade stock pot is on my short list. Speaking of equipment versus skill at cooking, I absolutely love my Le Cruset

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread Tim Bray
By an odd coincidence, I made a huge Stifado (Greek beef-or-rabbit-with-oregano stew) yesterday for a guest, in the big Le Creuset. Cooks great. But requires considerable scrubbing after 5 hours of stewing. -T On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jan 31,

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Tim Bray wrote: By an odd coincidence, I made a huge Stifado (Greek beef-or-rabbit-with-oregano stew) yesterday for a guest, in the big Le Creuset. Cooks great. But requires considerable scrubbing after 5 hours of stewing. -T I found that my Le Creusets are

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread eckinator
does your oven have pyrolytic cleaning? if so just put in the empty LC every couple of months and burn it clean. they take it very well. 2011/1/31 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Tim Bray wrote: By an odd coincidence, I made a huge Stifado (Greek

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:10 PM, eckinator wrote: does your oven have pyrolytic cleaning? if so just put in the empty LC every couple of months and burn it clean. they take it very well. Is that a serious hint or a joke? I don't know how hot pyrolytic cleaning gets. My oven is an old wedgewood

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread eckinator
serious hint. I have a 380 V siemens oven and I regularly use it to clean/refresh old cast iron cookwares. pyrolytic self cleaning goes up to 500 degrees celsius. they look (and sell) like new afterwards. actually knowledge gathered from a US web site about the dutch oven et al. le creusets will

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:24 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Steven Desjardins You should just spend your money on better pans. Funny you should mention that; a new commercial grade stock pot is on my short list. Speaking of equipment versus skill at cooking, I absolutely love

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:10 PM, eckinator wrote: does your oven have pyrolytic cleaning? if so just put in the empty LC every couple of months and burn it clean. they take it very well. Is that a serious hint or a joke? I don't know how hot pyrolytic cleaning gets. My oven is

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread William Robb
On 31/01/2011 7:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote: You can re-season cast iron. In fact, if you really screw up the seasoning on a cast iron pan, one of the steps to re-seasoning is to burn the old seasoning off to give you a uniform surface for re-seasoning. I found a Lodge omelette skillet in the

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:52 AM Subject: Re: What gear is on your short list? On 30/1/11, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: If a good photographer can overcome bad equipment, why

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-31 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 01:35:16PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote: Speaking of equipment versus skill at cooking, I absolutely love my Le Cruset cookware. . . . Not only does it have all the advantages of cast iron for cooking, but I've found the surface to be easier to clean and more durable

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/27/2011 7:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: My real objection is generalizations like equipment doesn't matter. For some shots it doesn't matter and for some it does. My opinion is that for a great majority it does make a difference. Better equipment is far less likely to be inappropriate

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/27/2011 7:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: My real objection is generalizations like equipment doesn't matter. For some shots it doesn't matter and for some it does. My opinion is that for a great majority it does make a difference. Better equipment is far less likely to be inappropriate

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
After the meal, ask the chef what brand of pots were used because it tasted great... On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/27/2011 7:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: My real objection is generalizations like equipment doesn't matter. For some shots it

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm clearly not saying this well. I keep saying the equivalent of A good photographer can take advantage of better equipment and folks keep translating it to good equipment will make you a better photographer. To be clear, I think the former statement is obvious, I think the latter is usually

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread John Sessoms
On 1/27/2011 7:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: My real objection is generalizations like equipment doesn't matter. For some shots it doesn't matter and for some it does. My opinion is that for a great majority it does make a difference. Better equipment is far less likely to be

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/30/2011 5:28 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I'm clearly not saying this well. I keep saying the equivalent of A good photographer can take advantage of better equipment and folks keep translating it to good equipment will make you a better photographer. To be clear, I think the former

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/30/2011 5:28 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I admit folks, I fail to see why this idea is so controversial. The best photographers often buy the best equipment. Maybe they can overcome inferior equipment, but I simply point out that very few of them bother to take this route. I gotta be

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
Actually, I think this has been in general rather even-tempered discussion. ;-) You, Boris, are always courteous. I don't think I'm switching positions. The argument is based on a comparison of two situations. These two situations are a single photographer of varying skills with each of two

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
Amen, brother. We are in agreement. ;-) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:31 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: On 1/27/2011 7:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: My real objection is generalizations like equipment doesn't matter. For some shots it doesn't matter and for some it does.  My

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
BTW, since we are discussing equipment, I just bought my wife a new camera. Her old PS had seen hard use and the trip to Africa hadn't helped. I took advantage of the $100 price tag on the Optio I-10. She takes pictures primarily of people in good light (or uses the flash), so the noise issues

RE: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Bob W
my cooking improved enormously when I bought decent pots After the meal, ask the chef what brand of pots were used because it tasted great... On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/27/2011 7:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: My real objection is

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Tim Bray
Let me spin this another way: The limiting factor in the quality of the pictures I take is not the quality of the camera I take them with. However, quite likely some combination of longer lenses and faster lenses/senses would allow me to take some pictures that at the moment I just can't take. -

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: What gear is on your short list? .my cooking improved enormously when I bought decent pots But were they better ? . After the meal, ask the chef what

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com Subject: Re: What gear is on your short list? ?Let me spin this another way: The limiting factor in the quality of the pictures I take is not the quality

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Ken Waller
For those that think better equipment makes a photographer better (and assuming he would then take better images) I throw this out for you to tell me how 'better' equipment would make this a better photo. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12483032 Taken with K20D, 70-210mm SMC Pentax F.

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Tim Bray
If you'd taken it with a Leica, the cognoscenti would admire its stochastic intransigence. -T On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: For those that think better equipment makes a photographer better (and assuming he would then take better images) I throw this

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread P. J. Alling
If you had a K-5 you could print it bigger, if you had a 645D you could print it even bigger than that. On 1/30/2011 4:45 PM, Ken Waller wrote: For those that think better equipment makes a photographer better (and assuming he would then take better images) I throw this out for you to tell me

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread P. J. Alling
You realize that stochastic intransigence is another way of saying random stubbornness. On 1/30/2011 4:47 PM, Tim Bray wrote: If you'd taken it with a Leica, the cognoscenti would admire its stochastic intransigence. -T On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Ken Wallerkwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Better equipment quite obvkously wouldn't make much difference here. The shot is in full sun and presents no huge equipment challenges. However, if taken with an inferior lens that lacked sharpness it wouldn't be as nice as it is. And it is quite nice. And of course if it were to be used on a

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
You can always burn dinner in good pans. You can drive you Porsche into the wall. You can also drop drop your K5on your foot and break your toe. These are isolated incidents, however, and not averages across many situations. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Paul Stenquist

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread eckinator
to put the thread back on topic: 60-250 k-5 + grip 50-135 and on my wish list DA*8-16 and a buyer for my DA 18-250, just repaired for € 122 with just under 2 years pentax warranty left cheers ecke 2011/1/30 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com: You can always burn dinner in good pans.  You can

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
You should just spend your money on better pans. ;-) Although I do like your list even if it doesn't matter. Especially the 50-135. That doesn't matter the most in my book. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:09 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: to put the thread back on topic: 60-250 k-5 +

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread William Robb
On 1/30/2011 5:28 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I admit folks, I fail to see why this idea is so controversial. The best photographers often buy the best equipment. Maybe they can overcome inferior equipment, but I simply point out that very few of them bother to take this route. If a good

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread William Robb
On 30/01/2011 11:36 AM, Bob W wrote: my cooking improved enormously when I bought decent pots My cooking improved when I decided the Circulons just weren't cutting it and went back to my mangy but much loved cast iron cookware. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
We need a cookware thread. I like heavy copper-bottom stuff with no non-stick surface. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:14 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/01/2011 11:36 AM, Bob W wrote: my cooking improved enormously when I bought decent pots My cooking improved when I

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread William Robb
On 30/01/2011 3:45 PM, Ken Waller wrote: For those that think better equipment makes a photographer better (and assuming he would then take better images) I throw this out for you to tell me how 'better' equipment would make this a better photo. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12483032

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have a 30 year old set of Magnalite pro cookware. It's no longer made, but the pans are hard anodized aluminum and magnesium alloy. They're similar to Caphalon but with thicker metal they heat more evenly. Omelets slide right off my omelet pan. No teflon or other crap of course. Just great

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-30 Thread Stan Halpin
On Jan 30, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: We need a cookware thread. I like heavy copper-bottom stuff with no non-stick surface. I like medium-weight bottoms with a definite curve to them. Oh wait, that would be another thread! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course clarity isn't always necessary, but there are certainly occasions when it is required. (I don't think I'll last long if I start sending soft photos of cars to my auto clients.) Good equipment is necessary to deliver everything that a photographer has to do. And better equipment -- as

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Oh, now there's an insult... On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:46 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/01/2011 10:19 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Steven Desjardins If you have a Porsche you still have to drive it. It doesn't mean that a better driver won't do better in the

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-01-27 12:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Too much clarity can spoil a shot. Very often you need to hide as much as you reveal; submerge it in the shadows, unsaturate, untint or lower its contrast, or defocus it; all reduce clarity. Clarity:

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen OK, then working autofocus, or any focus, not necessary. Image stabilization, not necessary. You are hereby forbidden from criticizing a photo for poor focus, motion blur, or any lack of clarity. Larry, When you go out on a limb, be careful which side you're sawing off.

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-01-27 11:27 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen OK, then working autofocus, or any focus, not necessary. Image stabilization, not necessary. You are hereby forbidden from criticizing a photo for poor focus, motion blur, or any lack of clarity. Larry, When you go out on a limb, be

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
My real objection is generalizations like equipment doesn't matter. For some shots it doesn't matter and for some it does. My opinion is that for a great majority it does make a difference. Better equipment is far less likely to be inappropriate for a particular photographic situation than lousy

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:27 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen OK, then working autofocus, or any focus, not necessary. Image stabilization, not necessary. You are hereby forbidden from criticizing a photo for poor focus, motion blur, or any lack of clarity. Larry, When you go out

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob Sullivan Oh, now there's an insult... Nah! Sticks 'n stones ... Besides, I'm still better looking. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:46 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/01/2011 10:19 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Steven Desjardins If you have a Porsche

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:27 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen OK, then working autofocus, or any focus, not necessary. Image stabilization, not necessary. You are hereby forbidden from criticizing a photo for poor focus, motion blur, or any lack of clarity. Larry,

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Mark Roberts
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:05:54 -0800, Larry Colen wrote: If I were more careful about what I said, my writing would be much less interesting to read. Now *that's* a Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Miserere
On 23 January 2011 12:50, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I'd rather have a lens that makes life worth living. MARK! —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-01-27 12:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: My real objection is generalizations like equipment doesn't matter. For some shots it doesn't matter and for some it does. My opinion is that for a great majority it does make a difference. Better equipment is far less likely to be inappropriate

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 27, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-01-27 12:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: My real objection is generalizations like equipment doesn't matter. For some shots it doesn't matter and for some it does. My opinion is that for a great majority it does make a difference.

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Jan 27, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-01-27 12:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: My real objection is generalizations like equipment doesn't matter. For some shots it doesn't matter and for some it

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Jan 27, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-01-27 12:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: My real objection is generalizations like equipment

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Ken Waller
If I were more careful about what I said, my writing would be much less interesting to read. True for a lot of the 'Marks' MARK! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: What gear is on your

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-01-27 12:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote: If I were more careful about what I said, my writing would be much less interesting to read. So you're saying that clarity is actually undesirable. fx ricochet /fx :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: What gear is on your short list? On 11-01-27 12:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote: If I were more careful about what I said, my writing would be much

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 27, 2011, at 7:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-01-27 12:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: You and I differ on a definition then. I define lack of clarity by all of the antonyms of clarity. You define lack of clarity as simply unsharp.

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: ... You're right of course. I didn't meant to imply that I'd rather shoot with a Barnack Leica. They're a pain. What I meant was that neither the Leica nor the Fuji would serve me very well as a photographic tool,

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-01-27 5:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote: What I suspect that you really mean is not that nothing in the photo needs to be clear, but that not everything in the photo needs to be clear. While I'm saying that while not everything in the photo needs to be clear, the fast majority of the time,

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-01-27 5:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote: What I suspect that you really mean is not that nothing in the photo needs to be clear, but that not everything in the photo needs to be clear. While I'm saying that while not everything in the photo

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-01-27 5:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote: one of the photos that I'm almost certainly going to submit to the annual: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4603493834/in/set-72157625712393314/ I don't think that there is anything in the picture that is perfectly sharp, although I think it would

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-01-27 5:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote: one of the photos that I'm almost certainly going to submit to the annual: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4603493834/in/set-72157625712393314/ I don't think that there is anything in the picture

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: ... You're right of course. I didn't meant to imply that I'd rather shoot with a Barnack Leica. They're a pain. What I meant was that neither the Leica nor

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 January 2011 11:46, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I'm having a hard time picking my third one. I want something significantly different.  One of my absolute favorites is a rather edgy profile of a model licking a chainmail leash, but I'm pretty sure that it's a bit too edgy for

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 27, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 28 January 2011 11:46, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I'm having a hard time picking my third one. I want something significantly different. One of my absolute favorites is a rather edgy profile of a model licking a chainmail

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 January 2011 12:47, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I sort of figure that the photos should be suitable for the children's cancer ward that it's raising money for. So it's really up to the individuals discretion, the images I'm referring to I could show (and have) to my 4 yo but

RE: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread Bob W
From: Steven Desjardins I am what I am and that's all what I am - Popeye the Sailor ;-) Well, that clears one thing up. It always sounded to me like he was saying I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam. Never could figure out what that had to do with spinach. the yam is a

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread AlunFoto
I'm always impressed by how you guys can put a spin on the pun itch. Jostein 2011/1/26 Bob W p...@web-options.com: From: Steven Desjardins I am what I am and that's all what I am  - Popeye the Sailor  ;-) Well, that clears one thing up. It always sounded to me like he was saying I yam

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's not that it matters all that much but I do have to practice these why equipment matters arguments to use on my wife. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:50 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I'm always impressed by how you guys can put a spin on the pun itch. Jostein 2011/1/26 Bob W

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-01-25 7:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Better equipment won't make you a better photographer, and one can argue that equipment that is too good at doing everything automatically can interfere with you becoming a better photographer. And while a good photographer can get great pictures with

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Equipment upgrades can definitely improve the quality and efficiency of one's work. For example, the much improved metering of the K-7 made it a much better tool than the K20. Likewise, the improved autofocus and low- light noise levels of the K-5 make it a better tool than the K-7. I shot some

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/26/2011 1:33 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 1/26/2011 12:12 AM, Bob W wrote: Hmm. That would not be photography. Photography is the _direct_ action of light on the film / sensor. It would be photography if you replaced your retina with Velvia. B I thought retina (tm) was some kind of

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread Steven Desjardins
So a retina (about 1100 mm^2) is bigger than FF (864 mm^2)? On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:02 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/26/2011 1:33 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 1/26/2011 12:12 AM, Bob W wrote: Hmm. That would not be photography. Photography is the _direct_ action

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 26, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-01-25 7:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Better equipment won't make you a better photographer, and one can argue that equipment that is too good at doing everything automatically can interfere with you becoming a better photographer. And

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-01-26 1:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 26, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-01-25 7:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Better equipment won't make you a better photographer, and one can argue that equipment that is too good at doing everything automatically can interfere with you

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman On 1/26/2011 12:12 AM, Bob W wrote: Hmm. That would not be photography. Photography is the _direct_ action of light on the film / sensor. It would be photography if you replaced your retina with Velvia. B I thought retina (tm) was some kind of display technology /wink

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 January 2011 11:16, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I beg to differ, and offer just a few from an innumerable list of excellent images with little or no clarity. These shots are not mine--all taken from Flickr ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/booleansplit/3894430548

Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-26 Thread Steven Desjardins
Most of these images rely on an element of clarity in a diffuse field. Awesome shots, BTW, I really like that face and the wharf/dock. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-01-26 1:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 26, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Bruce Walker

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