Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-28 Thread Herb Chong
doubling that, or more. Herb - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Cassino pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:46 AM Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting Hello Mark, maybe you just need a faster portable drive. I specifically

Re: colour shift under big lighting, with samples

2005-02-28 Thread wendy beard
--- Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somebody here is also shooting horses and similar with D2H, which has an ambient light WB sensor, which I heard is designed to detect flicker in fluorescents, do you exhibit same problem? I don't have a D2H or shoot horses, but I have had lots of

Re: colour shift under big lighting, with samples

2005-02-28 Thread Frantisek
wb I don't have a D2H or shoot horses, but I have had wb lots of trouble with indoor lighting, including shots wb having the colour shift visible over half of the wb frame. Now that's very strange! Especially as i't is mirrored in the two photos! I assume the camera worked fine in other venues?

Re: colour shift under big lighting, with samples

2005-02-28 Thread wendy beard
--- Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wb I don't have a D2H or shoot horses, but I have had wb lots of trouble with indoor lighting, including shots wb having the colour shift visible over half of the wb frame. Now that's very strange! Especially as i't is mirrored in the two photos!

Re: colour shift under big lighting, with samples

2005-02-28 Thread Graywolf
Those are interesting. Are they taken from aproximately the same point and time of day? If they are it is a camera problem no a lighting problem becase the color cast has shifted from one side to the other. Of course there could be window to either side and one was shot in the early morning and

Re: colour shift under big lighting, with samples

2005-02-28 Thread John Francis
wendy beard mused: I don't have a D2H or shoot horses, but I have had lots of trouble with indoor lighting, including shots having the colour shift visible over half of the frame. http://www.muddypawz.net/dfst3/images/127_2703.jpg http://www.muddypawz.net/dfst3/images/127_2708.jpg

Fwd: Re: colour shift under big lighting, with samples

2005-02-28 Thread wendy beard
Hmm, reply didn't appear again. (see below) --- Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that's very strange! Especially as i't is mirrored in the two photos! I assume the camera worked fine in other venues? Was it just these two, or a whole bunch from that venue? It might also be

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-27 Thread Frantisek
MC Are you shooting digital or film? If digital - do you have Auto White MC Balance on? Thanks for the suggestion. I have had nothing but problems with AWB, even on supposedly superb cameras like D2H's matrix colour meter. It drove me nuts in postpro, because of tiny variations in otherwise

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-27 Thread Herb Chong
. it chooses over a fairly finely spaced values on purpose. Herb... - Original Message - From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Cassino pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 3:11 AM Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting Thanks for the suggestion. I have had

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Frantisek Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting though it was the autocontrast causing the problem with Bush, but same problem happened with Putin later in the evening, where I had autocontrast turned off - perhaps the chameleons theory is right

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-27 Thread Mark Cassino
Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 7:27 AM Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting but the RAW converter has a white balance setting. i never take my camera off of Auto WB. if i see one that is off during conversion

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-27 Thread Bill Owens
Mark, I also usually shoot JPG. When I'm shooting under mixed lighting, I usually set a manual white balance. Bill - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:07 PM Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-27 Thread Bob W
Hi, For the record, our own Jean Chrétien is also an alien projection, and I am pretty sure that Tony Blair is one as well. Blair is Bush's back projection... -- Cheers, Bob

Re: colour shift under big lighting, with samples

2005-02-27 Thread Frantisek
So I have uploaded the samples of colour shifts. There are two pairs: all are in manual white balance, manual (same in the pair) exposure, no flash used, all taken at the same second after each other (at 3 fps motodrive speed). Oh, forgot to add, shutter speed was around 1/500 for the first two,

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-27 Thread Herb Chong
: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:07 PM Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting You are right re RAW files. I should of mentioned that I shoot JPG at the swim meets, mostly because I need the speed and to be able to hold lots of images on my CF cards. So, the process I described about locking

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-27 Thread Mark Cassino
www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting well, i have 10G total space on my set of CF cards

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
, February 27, 2005 8:56 PM MC Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting well, i have 10G total space on my set of CF cards and single Microdrive, 12G if i press into service some of my older CF cards. that's close to 900 frames in RAW. since i plan to get one of the 6G Microdrives, that would

colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Frantisek
Hi, what would be the safe shutter speed to avoid the colour and contrast shift under high intensity lighting? Always when I am shooting some event lit by something like that, I get incosistent colours in a burst of frames. I hope it's not the camera (elsewhere it worked fine, and

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Frantisek Subject: colour shift under big lighting I have assumed that it's due to lighting flicker, and that a slower shutter speed might solve the problem? Like with photographing TV? If yes, what would be the good shutter speed? I hope it's

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Bill Owens
It seems to me that now days, a high fps rate is more important than learning how to use your equipment properly. Bill Something I have noticed over the past while is a change in the way photojournalists shoot at these types of events. I remember not too many years ago, watching a famous head

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting It seems to me that now days, a high fps rate is more important than learning how to use your equipment properly. Perhaps this is the correct way to use them, in that situation. However... Watching

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Frantisek
WR Now, they seem to be shooting nearly continuous high speed captures. WR I was watching the Prince and Miss Camilla on the news the other day, WR and I couldn't see any way in hell that the photo boys weren't WR getting multiple flash bursts happening on the same frame. Har, in a few years we

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Juan Buhler
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:59:29 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, they seem to be shooting nearly continuous high speed captures. I was watching the Prince and Miss Camilla on the news the other day, and I couldn't see any way in hell that the photo boys weren't getting multiple

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Bob W
Hi, Perhaps this is the correct way to use them, in that situation. However... Watching it on TV is annoying enough. It's a bit of a surprise that celebrities and public figures don't snap more often. not a good idea to bite the hand that feeds them. -- Cheers, Bob

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting not a good idea to bite the hand that feeds them. I think of it more of a symbiotic relationship. Something like mutual parasitism. William Robb

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Mark Cassino
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 10:56 AM Subject: colour shift under big lighting Hi, what would

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote: I was watching the Prince and Miss Camilla on the news the other day, and I couldn't see any way in hell that the photo boys weren't getting multiple flash bursts happening on the same frame. Is this not where TTL scores - it will cut your flash and use the opposition's?

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting Is this not where TTL scores - it will cut your flash and use the opposition's? You may still get incorrect exposure but it will not be so bad as if you got the whole double burst. Also, although

Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting Is this not where TTL scores - it will cut your flash and use the opposition's? You may still get incorrect exposure but it will not be so bad as if you got the whole double burst