Re: An opinion: How much better can things get?

2017-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't know. I think we're spoiled. Sure small sensor cameras lack dynamic range, when compared to larger formats, but compare any format larger than 1" to 35mm slide film. Even 35mm reversal film didn't have 13+ stops of dynamic range. On 1/9/2017 6:12 PM, steve harley wrote: On

Re: An opinion: How much better can things get?

2017-01-09 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Mark, I trusted you... and you... I took some inexpensive lenses out of the closet, and tried them... Their quality didn't go up. You mislead /me! ;-) Igor Mark Roberts Mon, 09 Jan 2017 07:44:18 -0800 wrote: Collin B wrote: The only rough point is the price of good lenses. They've gone up

Re: An opinion: How much better can things get?

2017-01-09 Thread steve harley
On 2017-01-09 8:21 , Collin B wrote: When I look at almost everyone's digital camera offerings, they're all so good. i think the smaller-sensor cameras still need a new sensor technology to surpass their limits in dynamic range and low light capabilities; plus EVF display tech could still

Re: An opinion: How much better can things get?

2017-01-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Collin B wrote: >The only rough point is the price of good lenses. They've gone up while >bodies drop. But on the other hand the *quality* of inexpensive lenses has gone up. Way up. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

An opinion: How much better can things get?

2017-01-09 Thread Collin B
When I look at almost everyone's digital camera offerings, they're all so good. Even the slowest AF is quite quick & does a fine job. The features, like geotagging/gps were unimaginable with film. Pixel shift improves on the in-camera edge processing. Others will follow. Once we got

OT: Have I mentioned how much Roadrunner's webmail SUX?

2013-01-14 Thread jsessoms002
I hate it. It should be taken out and shot! AOL would be ashamed to present such a kludgy interface. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT: Have I mentioned how much Roadrunner's webmail SUX?

2013-01-14 Thread Stan Halpin
In Kansas City we were blessed with Time Warner Cable, and had the free Road Runner account. I think their advertising slogan should be: It will cost you nothing but pain. I chose to pay to get an alternate ISP. stan On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:42 PM, jsessoms...@nc.rr.com jsessoms...@nc.rr.com

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/6/12, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: What would be cool would be an ND filter that went behind the reflex mirror and in front of the sensor. My video camera has three NDs on a wheel exactly in that place. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Bob W
...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: 04 June 2012 23:22 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make? I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying to do some research into what the aperture

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 4, 2012, at 17:31 , J.C. O'Connell wrote: In theory a perfect lens would be sharpest wide open, so a really good lens would be sharpest close to wide open. If it takes 4 or 5 stops to sharpen up a lens, its probably not that great. As for good rules of thumb, I find f5.6 or f8 to

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread George Sinos
Just remember - while all of this is mildly interesting, it doesn't really make a lot of difference to the end result. When you're looking at the photograph on a screen or paper, the tiny differences are extremely hard to see. If the differences in f-stops are that distinct in a modern lens, you

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying to do some research into what the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them. The sweet spot for sharpness is usually around f/5.6-f/8, depending

RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread John Sessoms
Less than actually getting the subject in focus does. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts (Also, sharpness and shutter speed can be a trade-off too if you're trying to get motion blur from long shutter speed. I run into this problem when shooting waterfalls and such and I'm forced to stop way

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread David Savage
On 6 June 2012 00:10, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts (Also, sharpness and shutter speed can be a trade-off too if you're trying to get motion blur from long shutter speed. I run into this problem

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts (Also, sharpness and shutter speed can be a trade-off too if you're trying to get motion blur from long shutter speed. I run into this problem when shooting waterfalls and such and I'm forced

RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts (Also, sharpness and shutter speed can be a trade- off too if you're trying to get motion blur from

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
Also a factor, the longer the lens, the narrower the depth of field at the same f stop on a shorter lens. -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Sent: Jun 5, 2012 9:27 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: How much difference does optimizing

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Darren Addy
re: diffraction vs DOF Please see Charles Nam's most reasonable *comment* in response to the article on the following page: http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2011/06/choosing-optimal-aperture-to-avoid.html The problem with dealing in mathematical formula is that they are not Real World and do not

RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Subject: Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make? Also a factor, the longer the lens, the narrower the depth of field at the same f stop on a shorter lens. -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Sent: Jun 5, 2012 9:27 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Larry Colen
I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying to do some research into what the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them. Then I wondered how much it really matters. I've heard a couple of stops down from wide

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-06-04 18:22, Larry Colen wrote: Then I wondered how much it really matters. I've heard a couple of stops down from wide open, anywhere between f/8 and f/16, and a couple other rules of thumb. I do know that on some lenses, particularly the FA50/1.4, that stopping it down a couple

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: optimizing aperture for sharpness is not the most productive place to spend my time and energy. Mark! Apologies for taking that out of context. :-)  That I'm generally best optimizing the aperture for the picture, and not

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread David Savage
I never really spent too much time worrying about researching the sweet spot. I just chose the aperture that gave me the DoF I wanted. That said, with the D800's stupidly high resolution, it really pays to hit the sweet spot. DS On 5 June 2012 06:53, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread David Parsons
the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them. Then I wondered how much it really matters.  I've heard a couple of stops down from wide open,  anywhere between f/8 and f/16, and a couple other rules of thumb.   I do know that on some

How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread luiz felipe
Larry's ideas: I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying to do some research into what the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them. Then I wondered how much it really matters. I've heard a couple

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Mark C
On 6/4/2012 6:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying to do some research into what the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them. Then I wondered how much it really matters

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Jeffery Smith
the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them. Then I wondered how much it really matters. I've heard a couple of stops down from wide open, anywhere between f/8 and f/16, and a couple other rules of thumb. I do know that on some

RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread J.C. O'Connell
- J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 8:06 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make? On 6/4/2012 6

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
a chart of them. Then I wondered how much it really matters. I've heard a couple of stops down from wide open, anywhere between f/8 and f/16, and a couple other rules of thumb. I do know that on some lenses, particularly the FA50/1.4, that stopping it down a couple of stops from wide

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread P. J. Alling
how much it really matters. I've heard a couple of stops down from wide open, anywhere between f/8 and f/16, and a couple other rules of thumb. I do know that on some lenses, particularly the FA50/1.4, that stopping it down a couple of stops from wide open, makes a huge difference. And I

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Boris Liberman
IMO in this kind of discussion it just might be useful to play the role of devil's advocate. Most of my shooting not for my own pleasure is for Galia's class. When it started I was obsessed with technical quality - sharpness, etc. As time goes by, I am starting to understand that slightly

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Fernando
into what the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them. Then I wondered how much it really matters.  I've heard a couple of stops down from wide open,  anywhere between f/8 and f/16, and a couple other rules of thumb.   I do know

Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: James King Steven Desjardins wrote on Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:26:32 -0700 It would go so well with my white loafers . . . Just think? A white Leica, white shoes, and loud sports coat - a full Cleveland! Regards, Jim A white sports coat and a pink crustacean ...

Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-03 Thread James King
Steven Desjardins wrote on Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:26:32 -0700 It would go so well with my white loafers . . . Just think… A white Leica, white shoes, and loud sports coat - a full Cleveland! Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
there? :-) cheers, frank, wondering where Gateboy is What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Godfrey DiGiorgigdigio...@gmail.com Sent: April 2, 2012 4/2/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Considering how

Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread Mark Roberts
...don't you think the company could afford a more skilled Photoshop artist to create their composite images? http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/22/leicas-m9-p-white-unicorn-for-japan/ (Perhaps the image was put together by Engadget...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread Darren Addy
That albino Leica should look good in the glovebox of the 2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Roadster that I will order at the same time (assuming that ship comes in some time soon.) :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
lol! are we sure that isn't a late April Fools Day joke? Can't imagine who would buy a white leather-covered camera. one misleading detail, however, is saying that the unicorn variant goes for $31,770 over the regular model's $8,000. Regular model M9-P (itself a special variant ...!) goes for

Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
--- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com Sent: April 2, 2012 4/2/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Considering how much Leicas cost... lol! are we sure that isn't a late April Fools Day joke? Can't imagine who would buy a white leather-covered camera. one misleading detail

RE: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread Bob W
lol! are we sure that isn't a late April Fools Day joke? Can't imagine who would buy a white leather-covered camera. Inuit with more blubber than sense one misleading detail, however, is saying that the unicorn variant goes for $31,770 over the regular model's $8,000. Regular model M9-P

Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think we can all agree that a $31,770 white leather Leica is a joke. The real question is whether or not they intended it as such.;-) On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: lol! are we sure that isn't a late April Fools Day joke? Can't imagine who would buy a

RE: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts ...don't you think the company could afford a more skilled Photoshop artist to create their composite images? http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/22/leicas-m9-p-white-unicorn-for-japan/ (Perhaps the image was put together by Engadget...) Sad. Already up on Photoshop Disasters.

Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 2, 2012, at 15:16, John Sessoms wrote: From: Mark Roberts ...don't you think the company could afford a more skilled Photoshop artist to create their composite images? http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/22/leicas-m9-p-white-unicorn-for-japan/ (Perhaps the image was put together by

Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
It would go so well with my white loafers . . . On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 2, 2012, at 15:16, John Sessoms wrote: From: Mark Roberts ...don't you think the company could afford a more skilled Photoshop artist to create their composite

Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Charles Robinson On Apr 2, 2012, at 15:16, John Sessoms wrote: From: Mark Roberts ...don't you think the company could afford a more skilled Photoshop artist to create their composite images? http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/22/leicas-m9-p-white-unicorn-for-japan/ (Perhaps the image was

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-21 Thread Doug Franklin
Memory ... ah ... brings back memories of a particular comp sci instructor I had. He said, when you're designing a system, you have three choices on any particular feature: zero (don't implement it), one (duh!), or a practically infinite number of them (enough so that the user never notices

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread steve harley
On 2011-03-18 19:44 , eckinator wrote: thanks, guys my problem is I have no idea what the iPad is practical for; thus far I've ignored iProducts altogether - what are the most common storage intensive things that you use it for? i have a 16GB iPhone 4, which is comparable to an iPad in some

RE: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Igor Roshchin You should watch this old clip about iPad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs I also hope you saw these old clips about i-products:

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:44 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: my problem is I have no idea what the iPad is practical for; thus far I've ignored iProducts altogether - what are the most common storage intensive things that you use it for? For me, it works for: - the usual stuff

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread eckinator
roflmao these are brilliant... seems I will have to get an iRack for my iPad =) 2011/3/19 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: Ecke, You should watch this old clip about iPad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs I also hope you saw these old clips about i-products:

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread eckinator
thanks godfrey - does it handle ms office and pdf files? and how much do you spend on apps? and i hear it doesn't support flash - how much of a problem is that? also what about content restrictions you read about? thanks again ecke 2011/3/19 Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com: On Fri, Mar 18

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread eckinator
thanks steve - you wrote most apps useless I'm a bit worried i might wind up with a 700 € movie player plus browser status symbol can it for example be used to provide remote support or for system/network documentation purposes? are there IT tools available to run on it? thanks again ecke

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread Toine
Yes remote support apps for RDP or even better Logmein Ignition. My primary use is as a pdf reader. iAnnotate is very handy. I rarely use the browser. Toine On 19 March 2011 20:23, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: thanks steve - you wrote most apps useless I'm a bit worried i might wind up

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:35 AM, Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Igor Roshchin You should watch this old clip about iPad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs I also hope you saw these old clips about

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread steve harley
On 2011-03-19 13:23 , eckinator wrote: thanks steve - you wrote most apps useless well, more than half of the 200+ i never use, thus they are literally useless to me; most of these were free, so i just wasted a little time trying them out once; but there are also very useful apps, it pretty

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
: thanks godfrey - does it handle ms office and pdf files? and how much do you spend on apps? and i hear it doesn't support flash - how much of a problem is that? also what about content restrictions you read about? thanks again ecke 2011/3/19 Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com: On Fri, Mar 18

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:50 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: thanks steve - you wrote most apps useless well, more than half of the 200+ i never use, thus they are literally useless to me; most of these were free, so i just wasted a little time trying them out once; but there are

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-19 Thread John Sessoms
All you really need is enough memory to remember where you left it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-18 Thread eckinator
I need to buy one as a demonstration system for my business and can't decide whether to be sensible and buy el cheapo 16 gb or one of the bigger ones - does anyone have experience with one? thanks Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-18 Thread steve harley
On 2011-03-18 17:20 , eckinator wrote: I need to buy one as a demonstration system for my business and can't decide whether to be sensible and buy el cheapo 16 gb or one of the bigger ones - does anyone have experience with one? i have a little experience, and have been planning a purchase of

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:44 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2011-03-18 17:20 , eckinator wrote: I need to buy one as a demonstration system for my business and can't decide whether to be sensible and buy el cheapo 16 gb or one of the bigger ones - does anyone have experience

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-18 Thread eckinator
thanks, guys my problem is I have no idea what the iPad is practical for; thus far I've ignored iProducts altogether - what are the most common storage intensive things that you use it for? thanks again ecke 2011/3/19 Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:44 PM, steve

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-18 Thread Igor Roshchin
Ecke, You should watch this old clip about iPad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs I also hope you saw these old clips about i-products: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZKjJt-TkU Cheers, Igor PS. And it blends well:

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-18 Thread David Parsons
Then watch this clip about the iPad2. http://www.wimp.com/ipadtwo/ On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Ecke, You should watch this old clip about iPad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs I also hope you saw these old clips about i-products:

Re: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-18 Thread Ken Waller
...@gmail.com Subject: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough? I need to buy one as a demonstration system for my business and can't decide whether to be sensible and buy el cheapo 16 gb or one of the bigger ones - does anyone have experience with one? thanks Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT: iPad - how much memory is enough?

2011-03-18 Thread P. J. Alling
And don't forget this http://cdn2.techie-buzz.com/images2/keith/Introducing-Apple-iWater-Geeky-Fun_FCF1/apple_iwater.jpg On 3/18/2011 10:53 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Ecke, You should watch this old clip about iPad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs I also hope you saw these old clips

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-22 Thread Madame RD
Le 22/06/10 01:20, Brian Walters a écrit : On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:52 -0400, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Quite silly really. There's not enough silliness in the world in my opinion. the Monty Python are sorely missed ... ;-) dominique -- PDML

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-22 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/22 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: There's not enough silliness in the world in my opinion. Agreed! Great fun, Dan! Thanks for posting. Here's another source trying to compensate, along the same vein: http://www.jir.com/ :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-22 Thread Boris Liberman
Repeating that reasoning we can arrive to the similar figure of atoms from A. Einstein, J. Christ, D. Maradona (still alive, by the way) and many other historical figures within us. I demand to be allowed to carry my own atoms and as such I demand that they be calculated in a proper and

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-22 Thread Dario Bonazza
Boris Liberman wrote: Repeating that reasoning we can arrive to the similar figure of atoms from A. Einstein, J. Christ, D. Maradona (still alive, by the way) and many other historical figures within us. Well, not actually, as Shakey has been alive for 52 years, while Christ just for 33.

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-22 Thread eckinator
2010/6/22 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: Repeating that reasoning we can arrive to the similar figure of atoms from A. Einstein, J. Christ, D. Maradona (still alive, by the way) and many other historical figures within us. Well, not actually, as Shakey has been alive for 52 years,

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-22 Thread William Robb
-- From: eckinator Subject: Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us? What we all seem to forget is that none of said atoms ever were in any way /originally/ associated with any one of said individuals. Or any other, for that matter. Good

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-22 Thread eckinator
2010/6/22 William Robb war...@gmail.com: Good thing too, since a lot of us probably also share atoms with Attila the Hun, Adolf Hitler, etc. Gotta take the bad with the good Come to think of it, next time I try to pick up a woman at a bar, I will tell her I have some 20 billion or so of

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You had sex with George Clooney? On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:48 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/22 William Robb war...@gmail.com: Good thing too, since a lot of us probably also share atoms with Attila the Hun, Adolf Hitler, etc. Gotta take the bad with the good Come

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-22 Thread eckinator
2010/6/22 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: You had sex with George Clooney? Naah... I already have a Nespresso machine... =P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
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Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-21 Thread eckinator
Daniel, this makes cannibalism obsolete - you deserve a Nobel Peace Prize =) Cheers Ecke 2010/6/21 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: http://www.jupiterscientific.org/review/shnecal.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Of course, the calculations are not mine, but those of the folks at Jupiter Scientific, who try to make science topics interesting. Dan On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:42 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel, this makes cannibalism obsolete - you deserve a Nobel Peace Prize =) Cheers

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Quite silly really. On 6/21/2010 9:41 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://www.jupiterscientific.org/review/shnecal.html -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the

Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

2010-06-21 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:52 -0400, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Quite silly really. There's not enough silliness in the world in my opinion. :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/

How much would you pay for a photobook?

2010-04-05 Thread AlunFoto
Guys and gals, I just sent off a manuscript for a personal photo book to a Norwegian vendor. 58 pages, 30x30 cm, hardcover. I'll be sitting on my hands waiting for it to turn up in the mail so I can see the quality, but this print shop as a good reputation. Basically, I did this for myself only.

Re: How much would you pay for a photobook?

2010-04-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:10 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Guys and gals, I just sent off a manuscript for a personal photo book to a Norwegian vendor. 58 pages, 30x30 cm, hardcover. I'll be sitting on my hands waiting for it to turn up in the mail so I can see the quality, but this

Re: How much would you pay for a photobook?

2010-04-05 Thread mike wilson
AlunFoto wrote: Guys and gals, I just sent off a manuscript for a personal photo book to a Norwegian vendor. 58 pages, 30x30 cm, hardcover. I'll be sitting on my hands waiting for it to turn up in the mail so I can see the quality, but this print shop as a good reputation. Basically, I did

Re: How much would you pay for a photobook?

2010-04-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/4/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: I just sent off a manuscript for a personal photo book to a Norwegian vendor. 58 pages, 30x30 cm, hardcover. I'll be sitting on my hands waiting for it to turn up in the mail so I can see the quality, but this print shop as a good reputation.

Re: How much would you pay for a photobook?

2010-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Jostein, I'd gladly pay USD 50 or so for such a book. Or perhaps even USD 100. But then I would ask you to sign it for me. In fact, this is what I am asking you to do right now. Boris On 4/6/2010 12:10 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Guys and gals, I just sent off a manuscript for a personal photo

How much to pay for smc F 50/1.7

2010-02-21 Thread eckinator
Please answer fast, just found it in the bay and it is about to end 220556654576 TY so much Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

How much would you pay for an FA 50/2.8 macro?

2009-07-26 Thread Thibouille
I do not really need one but one good priced, I think. Even for resale, it may tempt me. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: How much would you pay for an FA 50/2.8 macro?

2009-07-26 Thread Christine Aguila
: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:21 AM Subject: How much would you pay for an FA 50/2.8 macro? I do not really need one but one good priced, I think. Even for resale, it may tempt me. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1

Re: How much would you pay for an FA 50/2.8 macro?

2009-07-26 Thread Luiz Felipe
Clothing and Gear: The Complete Hamley Catalog of 1942. If pressed, I'd throw in spurs, but they'd be used spurs. ;-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:21 AM Subject: How much would you

Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-30 Thread mike wilson
wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff evolution on the DA lenses

Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-30 Thread Luiz Felipe
circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? Luiz Felipe wrote: I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related to the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full frame

Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-30 Thread Luiz Felipe
is the first chapter in the book of wisdom - Thomas Jefferson -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller

Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-30 Thread Luiz Felipe
is related to the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full frame. That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I know the difference should be proportional to the difference from

image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread Luiz Felipe
circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff evolution on the DA lenses. Just wondering, TIA. :-) LF -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe

Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread Mark Roberts
actually knows the image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff evolution on the DA lenses. Just wondering, TIA. :-) It varies. Some

Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread John Francis
. That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff evolution

Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? Above some focal length (well below 200mm) it's likely that just about any lens will have an image circle easily large enough to cover 36x24mm. But, as Ned Bunnell point out

Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread Luiz Felipe
under fire. Granted there are other considerations, but all the same, the [image circle - light fallof] limit may be not so real, for good part of the lenses. LF William Robb escreveu: - Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller

Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Luiz Felipe Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? Guess I will have to read that debate... Bottom line - never mind a full frame dslr isn't available from Pentax and most likely will never be - wich current (DA included

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