Re: style change

2007-01-05 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/04 Thu PM 10:42:33 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: style change On 4/1/07, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Some likes straps, some don't, and some adapt. Bob W like straps. Reins don't count

Re: style change

2007-01-05 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 04/01/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Godders on that point. While we use different approaches to hold the camera, the concept is the same. I use a wrist strap attached to the t'pod socket, and have done so for years. Over time I've gathered a few straps (even

RE: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
. januar 2007 12:43 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: style change On 03/01/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. I've never experienced fatigue factor with any camera, but I hold them only when shooting. The rest of the time they hang around my neck. Helps prevent costly

RE: style change

2007-01-04 Thread pnstenquist
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: 3. januar 2007 12:43 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: style change On 03/01/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. I've never experienced fatigue factor with any camera, but I hold them only when

Re: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I always considered them a necessary evil ... they always got in the way. Nothing to do with style or habit. I hate having *anything* hanging from my neck or even from my belt. When I need a place to set the camera aside while changing lenses, I either put it on a table or hang it from the

Re: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/1/07, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: This straps getting in the way is very much a matter of habit. If you are used to have it around the neck you will automatically protect it from branches and other stuff when needed. I'm very used to have things hanging from my neck, it is my

Re: style change

2007-01-04 Thread pnstenquist
Nice. You get it both ways. I like the heavy padding on the strap. Paul -- Original message -- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4/1/07, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: This straps getting in the way is very much a matter of habit. If you are used to

RE: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
. januar 2007 18:09 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: style change I always considered them a necessary evil ... they always got in the way. Nothing to do with style or habit. I hate having *anything* hanging from my neck or even from my belt. When I need a place to set the camera aside

RE: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
:28 To: pentax list Subject: Re: style change On 4/1/07, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: This straps getting in the way is very much a matter of habit. If you are used to have it around the neck you will automatically protect it from branches and other stuff when needed. I'm very used

Re: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Nice. You get it both ways. I like the heavy padding on the strap. Let's face it, I need it with that weight. It's actually a strap from a Marmot fanny pack (easy now lads). -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

Re: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/1/07, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Some likes straps, some don't, and some adapt. Bob W like straps. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

RE: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Bob W
Some likes straps, some don't, and some adapt. Bob W like straps. actually I think it's a boy/girl thing. I've noticed, and if heard women comment, that men hate carrying stuff around. I know I do. But women often seem to feel insecure unless they're carrying a handbag or something

Re: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Bob Shell
On Jan 4, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Cotty wrote: On 4/1/07, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Some likes straps, some don't, and some adapt. Bob W like straps. Me, I just stay strapped all the time. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: style change

2007-01-04 Thread graywolf
I quit using neck straps when my belly got in the way grin. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. I recall that when I was shooting a lot of motorsports, everyone hung their cameras around their neck. Most used more than one, and when loading film, a neck strap was essential. A good strap

RE: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Bob W
Let's face it, I need it with that weight. It's actually a strap from a Marmot fanny pack (easy now lads). I'm going to the Alps this summer. If I see a lady marmot perhaps I'll try and get one. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good thing we no longer have any Australian women on the list. Paul On Jan 4, 2007, at 5:41 PM, Cotty wrote: On 4/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Nice. You get it both ways. I like the heavy padding on the strap. Let's face it, I need it with that weight. It's actually a

Re: style change

2007-01-04 Thread P. J. Alling
What, you expect maybe a dirty remark from not clean minds? Well I hate to disappoint you Bucko but I won't say anything. (I don't have to). Cotty wrote: On 4/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Nice. You get it both ways. I like the heavy padding on the strap.

RE: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
And you're an early adaptor? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 4. januar 2007 23:43 To: pentax list Subject: Re: style change On 4/1/07, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed

Re: RE: style change

2007-01-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: Some likes straps, some don't, and some adapt. Bob W like straps. actually I think it's a boy/girl thing. I've noticed, and if heard women comment, that men hate carrying stuff around. I know I do. But women often seem to feel insecure unless they're carrying a handbag or

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/01/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, I should mention (and admit ;-) ) that those who told me K10D will grow on me were right. Right now I find K10D ergonomics *absolutely* natural. It is slightly big but I've found certain way to grip it so that I definitely don't look

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread David Savage
On 1/3/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/01/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, I should mention (and admit ;-) ) that those who told me K10D will grow on me were right. Right now I find K10D ergonomics *absolutely* natural. It is slightly big but I've

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/01/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One arm will start to look like Popeye's Maybe but I really don't expect my fingers to elongate, that's where the problem lies, it's a bit like providing 2.5 diameter grips on a motorcycle ie about as practical as ape hanger bars. -- Rob

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Strangely enough I did not experience any significant fatigue, though of course I did not hold it for very long time - may be 5 mins of continuous holding. On 1/3/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/01/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, I should mention (and

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Interesting. I've never experienced fatigue factor with any camera, but I hold them only when shooting. The rest of the time they hang around my neck. Helps prevent costly drops as well as eliminating fatigue. Paul On Jan 3, 2007, at 2:49 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 03/01/07, Boris

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/01/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. I've never experienced fatigue factor with any camera, but I hold them only when shooting. The rest of the time they hang around my neck. Helps prevent costly drops as well as eliminating fatigue. I do a lot of bush walking and

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Peter Loveday
It's great that we're not all the same (except when it to my disadvantage). Indeed :) FWIW, my experience is much the same as yours. The *istD was, ergonomically, almost a perfect fit for me. But the K10D is so much beyond that in terms of speed and usability I find the *istD tedious to

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread David Savage
Try that with something like the FA* 80-200mm f2.8, or even the FA 100mm f2.8 macro, and you'll break your neck or the lens. IMO they're just too heavy to have swinging from your neck. Cheers, Dave On 1/3/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. I've never experienced fatigue

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread pnstenquist
I do it all the time with the A400/5.6 plus a flash and a flash Xtender, all swinging from my neck. But I've been doing it all my life. When I shot a lot of motorsports back in the seventies, I always worked with two cameras, both on neck straps. One was usually a C220 Mamiya with a 250mm lens,

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread David Savage
Fair enough. I personally don't like having all that extra mass in front of me. I have enough natural mass there already :-) Dave On 1/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do it all the time with the A400/5.6 plus a flash and a flash Xtender, all swinging from my neck. But

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread ann sanfedele
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 03/01/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, I should mention (and admit ;-) ) that those who told me K10D will grow on me were right. Right now I find K10D ergonomics *absolutely* natural. It is slightly big but I've found certain way to grip it so

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
I just did an outing recently where I had the camera out and in my hand for a couple of hours. I can't say that I noticed any more or less fatigue than when I have done the same with the *istD. Neither one felt worse. I have the grip on both the K10D and *istD. Funny, but I think the grip on

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 04/01/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny, but I think the grip on the K10D makes it easier to hold the camera in a horizontal position, as well as vertical. I think what it is, the grip allows the pinky finger to share the gripping motion of the rest of the fingers rather

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 3, 2007, at 3:42 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: ... I do a lot of bush walking and if the camera isn't out and accessible then I inevitably miss shots of birds and other critters. It would be great to be able to use a strap but generally it far easier and safer to remove the strap

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I agree with Godders on that point. While we use different approaches to hold the camera, the concept is the same. I use a wrist strap attached to the t'pod socket, and have done so for years. Over time I've gathered a few straps (even had one custom made) of slightly different lengths and

Re: style change

2007-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Digital Image Studio wrote: Not really, I spent very little time shooting with flash on my *ist D and I'll continue to do so. This holiday period most of my shooting was done using my old *ist D as it's a far more comfortable camera for me which tends to make the biggest contribution to

style change

2006-12-27 Thread George Sinos
The SR and low light performance of the K10d is leading me down the path to a style change. I may have mentioned before that very early on it exposed a problem with my technique. Somewhere along the line I had developed a bad habit of quickly lifting my finger from the shutter button after

Re: style change

2006-12-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
light! and even my outdoor, hand held photos are sharper. It's a good change but requires some technique changes. Regards, Bob S. On 12/27/06, George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The SR and low light performance of the K10d is leading me down the path to a style change. I may have mentioned

Re: style change

2006-12-27 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 11:27:23AM -0600, George Sinos wrote: Don't misunderstand me, I much prefer the lighting without flash. I even enjoy the subject motion in most of the photos. I'm just struggling with the fact that the equipment is leading the style change. Anyone else

Re: style change

2006-12-27 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 28/12/06, George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The SR and low light performance of the K10d is leading me down the path to a style change. I may have mentioned before that very early on it exposed a problem with my technique. Somewhere along the line I had developed a bad habit