[PEIRCE-L] Sign Relations Archive

2017-02-02 Thread Jon Awbrey
Peircers, I went looking for the mentioned exchange between Jean-Marc Orliaguet and Kirsti Määttänen and have not found it yet, but I did run across an archive of canonical selections from Peirce and previous discussions on Sign Relations that may be of use. It looks like I left off prettifying t

Re: [PEIRCE-L] signs, correlates, and triadic relations - The union of the units unifies the unity

2017-02-02 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List, Kirsti, Ben: I am a bit puzzled by these responses, which appear strange to my way of thinking. By the standards of some, I am not a “Peircer”. My aim is bio-medical reserch on specific quantitative issues; the writings of CSP are studied in order to contribute to my understanding of t

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Signs, Correlates, Triadic Relations

2017-02-02 Thread Jon Awbrey
Ben, Gary, Jerry, Kirst, List ... I had one of those Deja Vu Groundhog Day impressions that we had discussed this question of triadic vs. trichotomic way back at the turn of the millennium, but many searches under those keywords failed to turn up the relevant texts until I remembered to search un

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Signs, Correlates, Triadic Relations

2017-02-02 Thread Clark Goble
> On Feb 2, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Jon Awbrey wrote: > > I had one of those Deja Vu Groundhog Day impressions that > we had discussed this question of triadic vs. trichotomic > way back at the turn of the millennium, but many searches I think this *might* be the email you were thinking of. It’s from

[PEIRCE-L] Fwd: [peirce-l] First, second, third, etc.

2017-02-02 Thread Clark Goble
These seem two other relevant posts from Jean-Marc. Begin forwarded message: From: Jean-Marc Orliaguet Subject: [peirce-l] First, second, third, etc. Date: June 25, 2006 at 2:19:19 AM MDT To: "Peirce Discussion Forum" Reply-To: "Peirce Discussion Forum" Here is an article that I scanned so

[PEIRCE-L] Inquiry Into Isms • k-adic versus k-tomic

2017-02-02 Thread Jon Awbrey
Peirce Listers, Here is that fragment I mentioned. In case it gets garbled in transit I've placed a copy on InterSciWiki: http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/User:Jon_Awbrey/Inquiry_Into_Isms Regards, Jon o~o~o~o~o~o~o Inquiry Into Isms -

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Fwd: [peirce-l] First, second, third, etc.

2017-02-02 Thread Jerry Rhee
Dear list: JM wrote, “…basically take one thing (A), take another thing (B) and you have a first (A) and a second (B), the firstness and the secondness here mean nothing more than "A is such as it is" and "B is other than A", in the context of the relation that is being considered. however w

Re: [PEIRCE-L] signs, correlates, and triadic relations - The union of the units unifies the unity

2017-02-02 Thread Benjamin Udell
Gary, Kirsti, list, You wrote, "I've been a little "out of it" post surgery, but did someone earlier quote that passage? In any event, I can't find it in this thread." I was referring to a post by Orliaguet from many years ago, but nobody else quoted it in the thread. I tried a few years ago

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Sign Relations Archive

2017-02-02 Thread Benjamin Udell
Thanks for searching, Jon. I finally found it, it was between Orliaguet & Inna Semetsky, not & Kirsti. My bad. See the message that I just sent to peirce-l - Best, Ben On 2/2/2017 10:56 AM, Jon Awbrey wrote: Peircers, I went looking for the mentioned exchange between Jean-Marc Orliaguet and K

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Signs, Correlates, Triadic Relations

2017-02-02 Thread Benjamin Udell
And here's a Lyris peirce-l archive search that finds 23 results for Orliaguet triad trichotomy http://lyris.ttu.edu/read//vtable.tml?f=search::results&d=read/search&secx=1118ef1a&nsn=searchresultsviewtable&max=20&min=&rawresults=0&forum=peirce-l&words=orliaguet+triad+trichotomy&in=3&any=0&exclud

Re: [PEIRCE-L] signs, correlates, and triadic relations - The union of the units unifies the unity

2017-02-02 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Ben, List: > On Feb 2, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Benjamin Udell wrote: > > It contains (in terms of the three-trichotomy system, and borrowing the > italicized terms from Liszka): > 1. the second division from the _presentative_ trichotomy (sign's relation to > itself), > 2. the second division fro

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Nominalism vs. Realism

2017-02-02 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
John, List: > On Jan 31, 2017, at 1:05 AM, John Collier wrote: > > 2. Now, for the most important comment. It is almost certain that CSP’s > notion of abduction as a method to generate a possibility space came directly > from the concept of proof of structure. It follows from his notion

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Nominalism vs. Realism - “The union of units unifies the unity”

2017-02-02 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
John, List: > On Jan 31, 2017, at 1:05 AM, John Collier wrote: > > 5. The assertion "Empiricists typically claim that we don't need anything > more to do science.” appears rather problematic to me. > > I don’t see this, Jerry. A typical example of a contemporary empiricist who > argues spec

Re: [PEIRCE-L] signs, correlates, and triadic relations - The union of the units unifies the unity

2017-02-02 Thread kirstima
Jerry, CSP did use divisions into three, so trichotomies do belong to his philosophy. Only in his latest phase he devoted himself to developing triadicity as his key concept in his theory of the Categories. So, trichotomies of signs, such as icon, index, symbol etc. are OK. But only for the