Please Stop (was Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...)

2020-05-14 Thread Mike Bergman
To, specifically, John, JAS, Gary R, Edwina, Please stop. Does anyone think this continued harangue is either: 1) attracting new individuals to be interested in Peirce?; or 2) resolving anything? I wish I knew where there was a forum, as I first encountered years ago with this list, where I

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: Thanks for confirming that there are no specific examples to cite of Gary R. making the kinds of "blanket statements" of which he has been repeatedly and falsely accused. I sincerely hope that a retraction and an apology will be forthcoming accordingly. JFS: Even Peirce could not

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread John F. Sowa
Jon, et al. I just want to emphasize one point:  It's extremely rare for anybody to approve or be satisfied with anybody else's summary or paraphrase of what they said or wrote.  If it's highly favorable, they probably won't complain.  But even then, they realize that the paraphrase is not what

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread Jerry Rhee
Dear list, Thank you for this great demonstration of ‘*charity*’. We have shown ourselves to be a learned person who can define a concept perfectly. For who can’t recognize an example when it’s on the table in front of them? Best, Jerry R On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:32 PM Edwina Taborsky

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } JAS - and this is getting ridiculous. But - you who openly self-defines yourself as very particular about exact references - 'selected' from what I wrote - which thereby changed the meaning - and declared that I wrote:

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Edwina, List: ET: You are misinterpreting what I said and writing misleading comments about it. Another pot is calling another kettle black, except that I provided links to the specific posts that I quoted so that others could see the complete contexts for themselves. That is precisely why I

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }JAS 1] You write - 'thanks for acknowledging this '- as if I ever rejected such a view! 2] Yes - I know that you reject my view of the Sign as a triad - made up of the O-R-I. As to who is more accurate

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: JFS: For these reasons, what triggered this thread is not what Jon wrote, but what Gary R wrote ... But when he made a blanket statement about my competence,that was out of bounds. Again, where did Gary R. make any such "blanket statement"? Please provide a quotation, preferably

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Edwina, List: ET: I think that evaluation of interpretations of Peirce is both valid and necessary- and yes -it has to be asserted that some are more valid and accurate and truthful than others. Thanks for acknowledging this. As an example, in my view it is an invalid and inaccurate

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }JAS You are misinterpreting what I said and writing misleading comments about it. I didn't say that I was against theory: What I said was that I was against their isolation from the real world. You

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Michael, List: MM: I get from your account here that you had a specific critique of a result, on one occasion, of Jon's applying of his method. Also that a similar situation has recurred before. John Sowa and I have had fundamental disagreements about methodology for well over a year now,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: JFS: The principle of charity in philosophy does *not* require the listener/reader to assume that the statements by the speaker/author are true. Where have I claimed otherwise? Specific examples, please. JFS: For the arguments I objected to, I showed that a charitable

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread John F. Sowa
Jon, Michael, Edwina, Robert M, and Gary R, Peirce's range of interests, talents, and research was so broad that there is no single best method for studying and interpreting his writings.  For different aspects of his work, some methods are better than others.   But even for those areas where

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Essay about categories and logical presuppositions

2020-05-14 Thread Jon Awbrey
Cf: Peirce's Categories • 20 At: http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2020/05/14/peirces-categories-%e2%80%a2-20/ Peircers, Understanding another person's thought can be difficult. Understanding the way another understands a third person's thought, all the more so, even if that third person is not

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Michael - thanks again for your comments, but I feel that on this list, there is indeed a Wimbledon atmosphere. That is - the view seems to be that there are valid/correct/true interpretations of Peirce - and

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Charity (was Categories and...

2020-05-14 Thread michaelcjm
John, Gary, I get from your account here that you had a specific critique of a result, on one occasion, of Jon's applying of his method. Also that a similar situation has recurred before. But that doesn't mean that there is a flaw in his overall method per se. I'm inferring this from