Follow up on doing better

1994-04-12 Thread Michael Perelman
I am encouraged by the response to my suggestion that we can do better. I want to make clear that my post was not intended to censor or criticize any of the subjects that we cover; however, some of our great debates do become repetitious. The responses suggest that some of us want to use pen-l

Re: People who like to tell other people to shut up

1994-04-12 Thread Ajit Sinha
I completely agree with Barkely R and feel the same way. Note, nobody can stop anybody to write on any topic on this medium. If you are interested in something different than LTV, go ahead and write. Who can stop you. And if you write interesting stuff, may be other people will join you (including

Re: Zoning the Workspace

1994-04-12 Thread Michael Lichter
Sort of sounds like "gopher" or the Unix Usenet news, both of which have a hierarchical structure. If we're stuck with internet/bitnet mailing lists, one possiblility would be more heavy moderation: with summaries of postings and subject classification. Actually, it sounds

Re: Zoning the Workspace

1994-04-12 Thread Samuel G. Pooley
In response to Sam Lanfranco's interesting missive on the heterogeneity of our electronic workspace and the problems ahead in "allocating" it, I would suggest that the problem is not one of the "commons" as defined by economists. Economists missed the boat. Even on picnics. This is a cooperative c

Re: Zoning the Workspace

1994-04-12 Thread Marshall Feldman
Sam Lanfranco write: .. [lots of good stuff deleted] >What we need is an ability to flexibly configure, reconfigure, archive and >close down multiple virtual workspaces "in the same neighbourhood". The >CSU site has become our community storage locker of sorts, but we still only >have one meetin

In defense of the 'esoteric' (from the sidelines)

1994-04-12 Thread Barnet Wagman
Personally, I haven't read any of the recent discussion of the LTV (or of GE either for that matter). It's not at the top of my mental queue these days (and like everyone else, I'm short of time). BUT that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be on pen-l; on the contrary, there should be a place where

El Salvador Elections

1994-04-12 Thread Michael A. Ash
-- Forwarded message -- From: John W. Lamperti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> El Salvador, 1994: Elections of the Century? by John Lamperti I've recently returned from El Salvador, where I was a member of the U.S. election observer mission (MOECEN). The mission, composed of delegations

Re: zoning, etc.

1994-04-12 Thread Nathan Newman
Hi, Sorry if I sounded dictatorial in the last message. I was trying to do the opposite since I recognize the existence of the delete key. What you have to recognize is the element of intimidation when discussions suddenly vear off into jargon. I do worry about the absolute fear the general p

Collective Responsiblity -- Bosnia and the US Left

1994-04-12 Thread Nathan Newman
To PEN-Lers, I am cross-posting this message on Bosnia from another list, pnews, where there is a vigorous debate over whether the US Left is collaborating with genocide in either opposing US intervention or merely remaining silent. The real issue is whether simply dismissing all US

Re: People who like to tell other people to shut up

1994-04-12 Thread kl811af
On Tue, 12 Apr 1994 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I promise to shut up just so some people will be happy. Well, others (like me) won't be happy. I even doubt, that that is the result people who think, "we could do better", were aiming at. So I hope > Barkley Rosser, one of the "Last of the

Re: WE CAN DO BETTER

1994-04-12 Thread Frank Ackerman
Okay, I admit it. I've been reading quietly for some months, never posted anything (I have replied to a few individuals). Some of PEN-L is interesting; I've picked up a few valuable resources; but increasingly I do lean toward the delete button. I worked on the staff of Dollars & Sense from

Pen-L on Internet

1994-04-12 Thread Dennis Breslin
When I saw the posting inviting more people to participate in Pen-l I had the feeling that it would provoke the usual responses: some calling for more relevance and defensive posturing by current participants. As someone new to this virtual email stuff and as a sociologist, I've been content to re

zoning, etc.

1994-04-12 Thread FAC_BROSSER
Having just sent a rather offensive note, let me try to be more constructive in the light of Sam La Franco's "zoning" remarks. I would simply note that messages have labels for what the topic is. If the topic is LTV or MTV or Godzilla and one is not interested in that, this is what the del

Zoning the Workspace

1994-04-12 Thread Sam Lanfranco
Remember: You read it here first! The small issue about the volume and mix of traffic on Pen-L is a recurrent episode on the more dynamic lists with heterogeneous subscriber bases. It is worth reflecting for a dozen lines or so on the causes, implications and solutions. The first KEY point is tha

People who like to tell other people to shut up

1994-04-12 Thread FAC_BROSSER
We seem to have had a renewed spate of people who feel that only certain topics are fit for pen-l. I note that most of those making such points seem to say "we ought to be doing this" and then don't do it. I note that the propensity to tell people what they can say and what they cannot say

Re: We Can Definitely Do Better!

1994-04-12 Thread Sally Lerner
I want to second Louis Proyect's comment. As I've noted here before, some serious problems re unemployment, underemployment, the nature and distribution of "jobs", and the like are upon us. Please - can't all you progressive economists turn your attention to how North America, at least, can deal

helping african american undergrads studying econ at black colleges

1994-04-12 Thread susan feiner
--_3788892==_ Dear Penners: glad to be able to reach you directly. i am working on a grant proposal which goes to fipse (fund for the improvement of post secondary education) next tuesday. this proposal was a close contender for $$$ last year, and this year we will al

Re: Russia/China & what to do on pen-l

1994-04-12 Thread Jim Devine
Joseph Medley's message on China vs. Russia is exactly the kind of thing people are calling for from pen-l. Very practical and informative! Thanks! But we should try to keep a diversified portfolio of pen-l postings (sorry, I couldn't resist). From high theory to current events, and back again!

worker participation

1994-04-12 Thread PHILLPS
Dear pen-ners, I would like to thank all of you who responded to my post asking for references on international comparisons on worker participation and productivity. Unfortunately I inadvertantly deleted a couple of files before printing them out. Could I (with appropriate appologies) ask that

Re: I would like be attached to Progressive Economists NetworkERASE"

1994-04-12 Thread USRNAME
I wqould like to be unattached to pen. Please take me off the list and I will give you % $000 $5999 dollars

Re: We Can Definitely Do Better!

1994-04-12 Thread Louis N Proyect
Although I feel like an interloper on this list since I am not a professional economist or academician, I feel compelled to say a word or two about the character of the discussion on this list. In the past I was a project coordinator for Tecnica, an organization which sent programmers and othe

We Can Definitely Do Better!

1994-04-12 Thread Salem Ajluni, Economics
Dear Pen-Lers: Allow me to add my (cyber)voice to those of Michael Perelman and Susan Feiner regarding the possible uses of Pen-L. I have been on-line for about 3 months and have been bombarded mainly (it seems) with the discussion of value theory. While interesting and important, that discussion

Russia/China

1994-04-12 Thread Joseph Medley
Jim Devine wrote: >One of our job candidates during the interviewing season (Wei Li) >argues that the reason why China has boomed while Russia has >collapsed is the following: Russia (and other former parts of >the USSR) decontrolled all prices, leading to massive chaos, as >firms found themselve

Re: I would like be attached to Progressive Economists NetworkERASE"

1994-04-12 Thread Breen, Nancy
How do I send a communication to Pen-L? I sent one once about a month ago using the REPLY function key and, though I forgot to sign my name, it never showed up on the network as far as I know. Thanks. -- From: pen-l To: breenn Subject: Re: I would like be attached to Progressive Econo

Re: WE CAN DO BETTER

1994-04-12 Thread Susan Feiner
michael perelman writes that "we can do a better job of using pen-l." of course we can. but this means that people need to write to the list with questions, ideas, suggestions for research, etc. i have been on the list for about two months and i think michael's note was the first one i've seen.