Re: Ecology and value free Marxism

1998-02-23 Thread Robert Saute, CUNY Grad Center
Dear friends, Those who have been following Louis' posts on ecology will be interested in knowing that the 1998 Socialist Scholars Conference will feature a panel on "Marxist Contributions to Ecological Theory" with John Bellamy Foster, University of Oregon Stephen Jay

Complexity

1998-02-23 Thread Paul Meyer
Someone mentioned Brian Arthur and his part in Mitchell Waldrop's book "Complexity". That book had a fairly interesting and novel (novel to me anyway) critique of the mathematical "culture" of Economics. The critique originates from a group of physicists called to the Santa Fe institute to do

Re: literary question

1998-02-23 Thread Louis Proyect
This is the epigraph to "Pere Goriot". Louis P. At 09:34 PM 2/22/98 -0800, you wrote: Where did Balzac write: "Behind every fortune lies a grand crime."? Thanks. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Boucher's entire article

1998-02-23 Thread Max B. Sawicky
From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boucher's entire article A VISION OF ECOLOGICAL CATASTROPHE is becoming increasingly prominent in leftist thought. . . . Thanks for uploading this splendid article, though obviously you and others don't see it that way. The

Re: Balzac query (fwd)

1998-02-23 Thread valis
== From a member of balzac-l comes a somewhat contrary reply. valis Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:15:53 GMT From: Joe Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Balzac query The passage

Synthesis of First and Second Contradictions of Capital

1998-02-23 Thread Louis Proyect
February 23, 1998 Drought in Borneo Feeds Fear of New Asian Fires By SETH MYDANS SAMARINDA, Indonesia -- The eastern coast of Borneo, dry after a year of drought, is bursting into flame again, raising fears that a wave of choking smoke could soon blanket Southeast Asia as it did last fall.

the Titanic

1998-02-23 Thread James Devine
Over the weekend, I heard an album by the anarchist-singer U. Utah Phillips, where he suggested that the (U.S.) Democratic Party, and by implication liberalism in general, involves simply "rearranging the deck-chairs on the Titanic." This, plus our current torrential rains, brought my fevered

Re: boucher, epi and coal

1998-02-23 Thread Max B. Sawicky
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: boucher, epi and coal Max's defense of Boucher was not surprising. EPI has raised serious questions about the Clinton approach to global warming, from the perspective of the coal miners. Let's try to be a little more precise

Re: the Titanic

1998-02-23 Thread Dennis R Redmond
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, James Devine wrote: Can anyone think of a better metaphor than the Titanic one? How about all those Spaceship Earth metaphors, i.e. a more eco-leaning Titanicity, where we're all supposed to be our own deck chairs? They're still kind of incomplete, because spaceships are

Re: boucher, epi and coal

1998-02-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Max B. Sawicky wrote: From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: boucher, epi and coal Max's defense of Boucher was not surprising. I did not mean this as a criticism of you. EPI has raised serious questions about the Clinton approach to global warming, from

Re: boucher, epi and coal

1998-02-23 Thread Max B. Sawicky
If government gives away emissions permits, then clearly corporations do not benefit as a group, since one firm's sale is another's purchase. If the government sells them, corporations are net losers in the aggregate. This does not mean of course, that the trading scheme would

The Sins of Harvey (was Re: Boucher's entire article)

1998-02-23 Thread R. Anders Schneiderman
At 09:58 AM 2/23/98 -0500, Louis wrote: In "What is to be Done" Lenin cites 3 examples of what tasks a "vanguard" should undertake... Lous, why did you feel the need to cite Lenin chapter verse to argue that sectarianism is bad? Harvey draws a dichotomy between proletarian concerns: working

Re: Publishing in URPE for Tenure

1998-02-23 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 98-02-22 13:50:11 EST, Jason Hecht writes: When one goes up for tenure, do NCs (and PB committee members) regard URPE publications as "legitimate?" When I was at the New School, it was clear that faculty publications in URPE were not considered "valid." Actually, this

Earth Day and Lenin

1998-02-23 Thread michael
The John Birch society used to make a big deal that Earth Day was celebrated on Lenin's birthday. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: boucher, epi and coal

1998-02-23 Thread michael
Max brings up an interesting challenge. I disagree with him, but I do not have enough factual evidence to clinch my case. I am sure that the poor are hurt more by pollution than they are helped by the decrease in costs. Any suggestions? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California

information about pen-l

1998-02-23 Thread michael
From time to time, listproc drops people from pen-l, or people need to postpone or change their status. Well, here is the relevant material: Dear Penners, This is an occasional reminder of some of the listserv commands at your disposal. The commands have been capitalized for emphasis. These

Re: boucher, epi and coal

1998-02-23 Thread Louis Proyect
These are the issues that Tom Athanasiou covers in "Divided Planet." Also, check out Mark Dowie's "Losing Ground", a stinging critique of the pro-corporate drift of mainstream groups. Finally, everybody who has even the slightest interest in these questions should subscribe to Counterpunch,

Re: Publishing in URPE for Tenure II

1998-02-23 Thread valis
Jim Craven's acerbic comment on academic patois was necessary but ultimately futile, for this is an old problem that never really changes. What follows is - in case you can't tell - a cri de coeur on the subject from a member of Berkeley's Bad Subjects

Re: boucher, epi and coal

1998-02-23 Thread michael
Emissions trading is a crock. If you want to give polluction credits, why not give everybody an equal credit instead of rewarding people for historical patterns of pollution? In the case of Southern California, companies buy old junked cars, under the assumption that the hulk would run and spew

Re: Red vs Green

1998-02-23 Thread Sid Shniad
This isn't the whole story of the NDP, loggers and the environmental movement, Paul. As part of its pandering to business and right wing labour, the BC NDP government actually labelled Greenpeace "enemies of BC". When enviros were arrested for blocking logging in the Carmanah watershed a couple

Re: boucher, epi and coal

1998-02-23 Thread James Devine
At 05:54 p.m. 2/23/98 -0800, you wrote: Emissions trading is a crock. If you want to give polluction credits, why not give everybody an equal credit instead of rewarding people for historical patterns of pollution? In the case of Southern California, companies buy old junked cars, under the

Developments in South Africa

1998-02-23 Thread Sid Shniad
The Daily Telegraph Sunday 22 February 1998 ANC GUERRILLAS TURN TO CRIME By Alec Russell in Johannesburg In a nightmare for post-apartheid South Africa, former African National Congress guerrillas have become disillusioned with their

Solidarity tours for Detroit strikers

1998-02-23 Thread Sid Shniad
SPRING OFFENSIVE TOURS Knocked down but not knocked out. Detroit's locked-out newspaper workers are continuing their thirty-two month long fight against the Detroit News and the Detroit Free Press and for their jobs and a good union contract. 2000 Detroit newspaper workers struck the

Linguistic reform in the EU

1998-02-23 Thread Sid Shniad
CREDIT: Lila Kingsland, Calgary The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other

Re: boucher, epi and coal

1998-02-23 Thread Robin Hahnel
Max B. Sawicky wrote: If government gives away emissions permits, then clearly corporations do not benefit as a group, since one firm's sale is another's purchase. If the government sells them, corporations are net losers in the aggregate. For every tradable pollution permit

Re: Publishing in URPE for Tenure

1998-02-23 Thread James Michael Craven
Aside from those rather snide comments, I think the more interesting question is how to get some of these lefty journals talking to each other and the rest of the profession rather than addressing their little piece of audience. Feminist Economics was named one of the year's best journals

Re: The Sins of Harvey (was Re: Boucher's entire article)

1998-02-23 Thread Louis Proyect
R. Anders Schneiderman: Lous, why did you feel the need to cite Lenin chapter verse to argue that sectarianism is bad? Because I am in the process of collecting my thoughts for a more formal reply to Harvey. Harvey tries to stake out a classic Marxist position on social movements, but I will

Red vs Green

1998-02-23 Thread PHILLPS
Max talks about the conflict between the coal miners and ecologists in the US. Here in Canada, there has been a major conflict between loggers and ecologists, particularly in BC where the forest industry is the key to the provincial economy. This has led to major problems for the NDP both

Re: boucher, epi and coal

1998-02-23 Thread R. Anders Schneiderman
At 03:46 PM 2/23/98 +, Max wrote: Environmentalism in the large is about raising the costs of consumption that is most susceptible to taxation under current circumstances. Maybe DC is populated mostly with bone-headed liberal environmentalists whose version of "environmentalism" would fit

Re: the Titanic

1998-02-23 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 98-02-23 15:57:51 EST, you write: Can anyone think of a better metaphor than the Titanic one? Well, Jim, since you asked, how about Dante's Inferno. An eternity of crises. maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: the Titanic

1998-02-23 Thread Michael Pearlman
Here's Phil Ochs' definition of liberalism, from back in the day: As for a short aphorism about the future of capitalism (rather than a metaphor), how about "Socialism or Barbarism." I think that's usually credited to Rosa Luxemburg. http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~trent/ochs Love Me, I'm a Liberal

the Titanic

1998-02-23 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:06:54 -0800 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: James Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:the Titanic Over the weekend, I heard an album by the anarchist-singer U.

Boucher's background

1998-02-23 Thread Louis Proyect
I just got word from somebody who can place Boucher and these disputes into some kind of context. He said that he believes that Boucher comes out of a group associated with RETHINKING MARXISM, which includes others who are all pursuing a similar line. There was an article by Blair Sandler in RM

boucher, epi and coal

1998-02-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Max's defense of Boucher was not surprising. EPI has raised serious questions about the Clinton approach to global warming, from the perspective of the coal miners. Here is a real and serious environmental problem. The corporations will make out with their emissions trading and the workers

Re: Boucher's entire article

1998-02-23 Thread Louis Proyect
I'd be interested to hear your analysis of Harvey's position. Again, from what you cite here, it hardly seems like a sectarian sin. Isn't Harvey's complaint about exactly the kind of problem that led to the Environmental Justice movement? Anders Schneiderman In "What is to be Done" Lenin