Re: school vouchers

2000-03-15 Thread JKSCHW
I am not involved in the issue, but I think it is good news. The right wingers have been undermining funding for and public commitment to the public schools with voucher programs. These have been upheld, e.g., in Cleveland and Milwaukee. They are attacked on 1st amend., establishment clause

more Depressing mail

2000-03-15 Thread Jim Devine
I get mail... Hi James: With the safegards of public policy, do you really think we would experience another great depression? History never repeats itself exactly. Not only does this mean that we won't see an instant replay of the 1930s, but that any new depression will pose different

Re: Re: school vouchers

2000-03-15 Thread Jim Devine
The voucher idea is bad for economic reasons: it allows private schools to "cream skim," i.e., to attract the best students, leaving the problem kids to the public school system to handle (which then gets blamed for failing them). (There's adverse selection in that market.) Also, there are a

Re: Re: Re: school vouchers

2000-03-15 Thread JKSCHW
What's wrong with charter schools? No standards, no unions, no minimal safeguards of educational quality. A private charter school in Chi-town, nonunion of course, failed, hadn't kept adequate records for several years. the kids in it lost two years. How many of the minority youth there do you

RE: Re: Re: school vouchers

2000-03-15 Thread Max Sawicky
. . . I don't get the judge's argument against vouchers, BTW. My son goes to a non-profit "non-public school" because of his learning disability (mild autism) and it's paid for by the public school system. It seems to me that the judge is knocking down that kind of deal. . . . You've got

RE: The Danger of GDP

2000-03-15 Thread chang
Too bad the U.S. never had Red Guards. Juchang He - Original Message - From: Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: [PEN-L:17107] RE: The Danger of GDP Where are the Red Guards when you need them? mbs Subject:

RE: RE: The Danger of GDP

2000-03-15 Thread Max Sawicky
We do. They're all English professors. They bludgeon us with idealist notions. mbs Too bad the U.S. never had Red Guards. Juchang He Where are the Red Guards when you need them? mbs Subject: [PEN-L:17103] The Danger of GDP

Re: Re: Re: Re: school vouchers

2000-03-15 Thread Jim Devine
At 01:07 PM 3/15/00 -0500, you wrote: What's wrong with charter schools? No standards, no unions, no minimal safeguards of educational quality. A private charter school in Chi-town, nonunion of course, failed, hadn't kept adequate records for several years. the kids in it lost two years. How

Sanctions against Iraq to ease?

2000-03-15 Thread Seth Sandronsky
Pen-l, Any thoughts on Annan's call for an easing of economic sanctions against Iraq? It would appear that when such a US puppet sends this message, a change of official policy may be near. Is the timing of Annan's recommendations and the rising price of oil on the world market a

Michael Pereleman, please: was re The Danger of GDP

2000-03-15 Thread Stephen E Philion
Michael Pereleman, Please.Steve Stephen Philion Lecturer/PhD Candidate Department of Sociology 2424 Maile Way Social Sciences Bldg. # 247 Honolulu, HI 96822 On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, chang wrote: Too bad the U.S. never had Red Guards. Juchang He - Original Message -

BLS Daily Report

2000-03-15 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, MARCH 14, 2000 RELEASED TODAY: In January, 206 metropolitan areas recorded unemployment rates below the U.S. average (4.5 percent, not seasonally adjusted), while 118 areas registered higher rates. Eleven metropolitan areas had rates below 2.0 percent, with five of

Re: Michael Pereleman, please: was re The Danger of GDP

2000-03-15 Thread Michael Perelman
I unsubbed him once and asked him to bug off. He knows he is unwelcome here -- at least from my perspective. I will try to set up a filter to keep him from resubbing. Stephen E Philion wrote: Michael Pereleman, Please.Steve Stephen Philion Lecturer/PhD Candidate

Fwd: SLATE NEWS: Wed., March 15, 2000

2000-03-15 Thread Jim Devine
from today's "Today's Paper's," from today's SLATE: A big development in 80s and 90s journalism was the press's unabashed idolatry of rich people. But now apparently, the media doesn't just adore these folks--it feels sorry for them. Yesterday's LA [TIMES] front had a lengthy takeout on the

Red Guards

2000-03-15 Thread Dennis R Redmond
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Max Sawicky wrote: We do. They're [Red Guards] all English professors. They bludgeon us with idealist notions. No, no, they're the English departments themselves, who are run by a scary bunch, who subject their hired serfs -- er, grad students -- to the Iron Thesis Bowl

RE: Red Guards

2000-03-15 Thread Max Sawicky
Well I was close. mbs On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Max Sawicky wrote: We do. They're [Red Guards] all English professors. They bludgeon us with idealist notions. No, no, they're the English departments themselves, who are run by a scary bunch, who subject their hired serfs -- er, grad students --

Re: The ten most important events in American industrial history

2000-03-15 Thread Joel Blau
What about the 1937 Flint strike and the recognition of the UAW? Roger and Me had a lot of film about it, so I know the visual exist. Joel Blau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been asked by a documentary filmmaker who is doing a short (12 min.?) film on US industrial history for a pretty

Re: school vouchers

2000-03-15 Thread Joel Blau
It means that intermittently, we still maintain a wall between church and state. If you want to see an overview of this issue, you can take a look at chapter 5, "Education: Choice, Profit, and Democracy" in Illusions of Prosperity. Joel Blau Rod Hay wrote: Any one involved in this issue that

Re: Privatisation critiques

2000-03-15 Thread Bill Rosenberg
I would be interested in seeing the answers to Patrick's questions so replies on-list would be appreciated! Patrick - Eugene Coyle's recent paper on the electricity industry (which actually has wider implications) is well worth a look. Re Stiglitz, I have a PDF copy of his paper, "Whither

Charters//school vouchers

2000-03-15 Thread neil
Dear Ron, "Charter schools" are 'public schools' that are run more from the 'local level" by the principal and ususally group of PTA activists and teachers and other school employees having varied types of "consultative roles" --but I think in the end the Principal (Administration) still