Ken Hanly wrote:
>But both Hayek and Galbraith ignore the most significant
point. Satisfying needs
is good only if it leads to human flourishing, not just individual
flourishing but of the individual within a commuinity where the flourishing
of one is bound up wiht the flourishing of alll. Looked
Penners
Gerard Baker's column in the 30 November issue of the Financial Times makes
a number of salient points, and highlights the potential racial blind spot
of the Gore campaign in the process.
Baker:
"Take the Republicans' sudden affection for the federal courts. Tomorrow the
US Supreme Cour
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Rob Schaap wrote:
> I thought they were being pretty tight on interest rates? Duizenberg'd have
> to be scared of that droopy euro of his, wouldn't he? Not too much room for
> manouvre there, I'd've thought.
Well, core EU inflation is around 2.5%, growth is at 3.5%, and sho
a few years ago, i came across Grappelli and Reinhardt indirectly since
group instrumentals are not my cup of tea. rather, my large CD collection
is voice-oriented - everything from ethnic and hillbilly to pop, big band
and opera.
i bought a Smithsonian collection called "We'll Meet Again" - WWI
thx, charles, for the lenin comments on Marx.
i've printed and collected a bunch of poster comments like yours, printed a
bunch of essays from louis's marxmail last night and ordered about 20 books
on the subject via the internet. also, i started to read about marxism in
some philosophy books th
I agree with you but in the context of his debate with Hayek re advertising
and creation of needs he misses the point that ads can create desires for
products that work toward human flourishing rather than frivolous and
unnecessary needs. Hayek ignores the fact that such desires could be for
produ
Hey Norm
You better not read too many of Jim Devine's posts then, otherwise you'll be
ordering CDs by Marilyn Manson and Nsync together with Pauly Shore DVDs.
Still diggin' Philly,
Michael K.
Norm wrote:
a few years ago, i came across Grappelli and Reinhardt indirectly since
group instrument
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From: "Keaney Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>In a previous post it was mentioned that the Florida law barring ex-felons
>from voting was passed in 1868! Where were the Florida Democrats, and
>especially the civil rights-minded Florida Democrats, prior to this
>particula
NOBODY HERE HAS EXPRESSED OPPOSITION TO THE
CAMPAIGN TO GET THE VOTES OF MINORITIES COUNTED.
Pointing out democratic hypocrisy and opportunism
is a different matter. So is the 'moral equivalence'
issue. For all practical purposes, there is
moral equivalence. Virtue and vice are proportionally
Hi Ken
One of the interesting bi-products of our deregulated, "liberated"
post-Thatcher world is just how relevant the analyses of older critics like
Marx and Veblen have become once again. Jim Cypher wrote an excellent
chapter for volume 2 of Paul Dale Bush's festschrift (published by Edward
Elg
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Micheal Keany wrote:
>Hi Ken
>
>One of the interesting bi-products of our deregulated, "liberated"
>post-Thatcher world is just how relevant the analyses of older critics like
>Marx and Veblen have become once again.
Speaking of Veblen, PEN-L'ers should keep an eye out for a new book by
Douglas
[The article is drawn from James Green's recently
published book "Taking History to Heart: The Power
of the Past in Building Social Movements"
(University of Massachusetts Press, 2000.)]
HISTORIANS AS ALLIES OF
THE LABOR MOVEMENT
By James Green
For several years now, we've been hearing abou
G'day Gene,
You write:
>The clothes washing machine didn't create the need to wash clothes. Even
>one of the most important new consumer items of the Twentieth century,
>the vibrator, didn't create a new need. Or am I making a distinction
>without a difference in reference to Justin's phrasing
Nathan wrote:
>Where were the Democrats? In a lot of states working to end this
disenfranchisement. Since the problem of disenfranchisement got a lot of
play due to research reports by the Sentencing Project, there has been a lot
of mobilization on this issue. Legislation has been proposed in st
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From: "Max Sawicky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>NOBODY HERE HAS EXPRESSED OPPOSITION TO THE
>CAMPAIGN TO GET THE VOTES OF MINORITIES COUNTED.
>Pointing out democratic hypocrisy and opportunism
>is a different matter. So is the 'moral equivalence'
>issue.
Excuse me, Max-
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/00 07:52AM >>>
thx, charles, for the lenin comments on Marx.
i've printed and collected a bunch of poster comments like yours, printed a
bunch of essays from louis's marxmail last night and ordered about 20 books
on the subject via the internet. also, i started to r
Keaney Michael wrote:
> Nathan wrote:
>
>
>
> MK: I haven't and don't. With apologies to my elders and betters I would
> much rather have LBJ or HHH than WJC in the White House if only because they
Committing genocide abroad is perfectly forgiveable in a U.S. president
as long as he allegedly
Sent this earlier ... does not appear to have gotten through ... apologies
for repetition in event of repetition ...
Hi Ken
One of the interesting bi-products of our deregulated, "liberated"
post-Thatcher world is just how relevant the analyses of older critics like
Marx and Veblen have become
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From: "Keaney Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nathan wrote:
>Where were the Democrats? In a lot of states working to end this
disenfranchisement.
=
-MK: Well and good. How supportive has state and national Democratic Party
-leadership been in this regard? How compa
it would be instructive to know more about the eventual fate of the
successful co-op cited below.
norm
-Original Message-
From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 10:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L:5405] unmet needs
When I first
Oh dear, I forgot. No, not about Vietnam, but about Carrol's inevitable
sally against me and LBJ. Like I excuse Vietnam, or any act of U.S.
imperialism. One of the most sickening sights of recent times was watching
Clinton, in the middle of all this Florida mess no less, lecturing the
Vietnamese o
Thank you, Paul! --jks
>
>There seems to me to be a huge gulf between what various
>members on the list mean by entrepreneurship. Michael et al
>seem to associate it with profit, Justin with innovations etc.
>
>Let me try to separate it out by suggesting the, in Schumpeter's
>world, the entrepr
Hi pen-lers,
Under socialism, we would not want
to lower the standard of cleanliness & public health. Instead,
we would want to socialize laundry, so that we could cease the wasteful
practice of individual purchase & use of privately washing
machines. Doing the wash privately is not only ecolog
Nathan, quoting Max:
>NOBODY HERE HAS EXPRESSED OPPOSITION TO THE
>CAMPAIGN TO GET THE VOTES OF MINORITIES COUNTED.
>Pointing out democratic hypocrisy and opportunism
>is a different matter. So is the 'moral equivalence'
>issue.
Excuse me, Max- the post I quoted said "It is incumbent upon Gore
> it's good to be suspicious of Aristotle, since (after all) he did apologize
> for slavery.
If only it had been you who had lived in ancient times and not
Aristotle; what a wonderful world!
Hi Michael and Yoshie,
Not exactly right. The word entrepreneur may be a red flag to
some. To others, like me, the very idea that creating new needs can
be a good thing is anathema. Whether it's a cooperative venture or
a venture capitalist producing the new not-to-be-done-without item is of
n
"Security, human solidarity, health, intellectual stimulation"
may be some of the key things humans want. I would still
hesitate to put these things under the rubric of "happiness",
and would hesitate even more pretending that I know what it
is that humans want. Kierkegaard, for one, preferr
For what it's worth (not necessarily all that much),
in this mornings macroseminar in my department,
the most right-wing member who is also a professional
investment adviser declared that the recession in the
US actually began on Oct. 1. He figures that this is a
good thing for Bush who can
Here are a few climate tidbits probably few
of you have seen.
1) An aggravating element with regard to
global warming has been the successful efforts
to rein in SO2 emissions and also aerosol
(particulate) emissions in higher income countries,
US, Japan, and all of Europe, including t
BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2000
The idea that the United States is increasingly a nation of entrepreneurs
and self-starters has become accepted wisdom. ... Thirty million Americans
are now some form of freelancer, recent articles in business magazines have
proclaimed. ... There is a
> Kolakowski is a genuinely great scholar, deeply learned, widely read,
> profoundly thoughtful. He used to be a humanist Marxist of note, until he
> soured and went over to reaction and religion. See here E.P. Thompson's very
> moving Open Letter to Leszek Kolokowski, in his The Poverty of Th
Barkley wrote:
> Funny thing is that the latest forecasts in
>The Economist have positive growth rates for
>the next year for all the leading economies.
Even positive growth rates can be a problem if the growth isn't fast enough
to absorb increases in the labor force and deal with the fall
Michael P. wrote:
>Paul, I did not mean to exclude the idea of innovation from
>entrepreneurship. But I only meant to insist that the word as it is used
>by most economists involves a profit making function. By using this term,
>in the sense that Justin does seems to cede too much ground to th
At 03:08 PM 12/4/00 +0200, you wrote:
>You better not read too many of Jim Devine's posts then, otherwise you'll
>be ordering CDs by Marilyn Manson and Nsync together with Pauly Shore DVDs.
hey, what's wrong with Marilyn Manson? or 'N Sync? or Pauly Shore? Do you
want to step _outside_ and say
At 01:21 AM 12/5/00 +1000, you wrote:
> >The clothes washing machine didn't create the need to wash clothes. Even
> >one of the most important new consumer items of the Twentieth century,
> >the vibrator, didn't create a new need. Or am I making a distinction
> >without a difference in referenc
[was: Re: [PEN-L:5455] Re: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens]
At 10:13 AM 12/4/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >Where were the Democrats? In a lot of states working to end this
>disenfranchisement.
>=
>-MK: Well and good. How supportive has state and national Democratic Party
>-leadership be
Share prices in Taiwan and South Korea are
way down also. In Taiwan this may be more a
matter of politics. In South Korea it includes
such elements as the Washington-approved
bustup of the Daewoo chaebol, with its auto
firm now shut down, part of the general global
retrenchment in the auto
Jim may teach there, but he does not preach there.
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-
From: Ken Hanly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, December 03, 2000 1:04 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:5415] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: needs
>
>Well Jim teaches at a Jes
Louis,
Guess I'll dust it up with you here.
Several years ago, don't remember on which
list, you said that Sweden's high standard of living
was purchased at the expense of the sweat of
workers in Central America growing fruit, etc.
or words to that effect.
But, imports to Sweden
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/00 12:10PM >>>
Justin, on the other hand, is using non-standard (non-Schumpeterian) sense
because he dropped Schumpeterian/Austrian view that "entrepreneurship"
involves aggressive profit-seeking (without telling us that he was doing so).
As I said, it's okay to use
At 12:21 PM 12/3/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Many people feel a need to learn more about the world. New technology and
>companies such as Amazon.com have created new ways of satisfying that. The
>need for entertainment e.g. music is satisfied in new ways by the
>development of phonograph, 78s, lps, c
from SLATE:
>Yesterday's NY [TIMES] mag issue on secrecy included screenwriter and
>novelist Erik Tarloff's confession of his little secret: as an
>18-year-old he got a job writing pornography. (Actually a semi-confession:
>he doesn't reveal the pseudonym he wrote under.) Tarloff explains that
It still flourishes.
Mikalac Norman S NSSC wrote:
> it would be instructive to know more about the eventual fate of the
> successful co-op cited below.
>
> norm
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 10:49 PM
> To:
For most people in urban areas in the US, they just replaced commercial
laundries.
Rob Schaap wrote:
>
> Whilst it didn't create the need to wash clothes, it did make washing
> clothes easier.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-53
Depends on how fussy you are. I investigated buying
a turntable in hopes of transferring our records to
CD's. You can find them at Circuit City and Best
Buy for a hundred bucks or so. Not many choices,
but not hard to find a couple.
mbs
We should remember the imposed obsolescence part of the
Here is how Engels and Marx discuss "needs" in _The German Ideology_. Note there is a
basis for differentiating physiological needs , those that must be fulfilled regularly
to sustain human life, from other needs that have developed over the human history.
CB
History: Fundamental Co
Just for shock purposes, I'll take Louis' side
insofar as I don't think you have debunked his
premise. Sweden is quite a special case, & not
only because it escaped damage in WWII. Even
putting that aside, Sweden is integrated in
a world system that is prey to L's charge.
If it was an autarchy, y
Barkley:
>Louis,
> Guess I'll dust it up with you here.
> Several years ago, don't remember on which
>list, you said that Sweden's high standard of living
>was purchased at the expense of the sweat of
>workers in Central America growing fruit, etc.
>or words to that effect.
I have no id
CB: Nice going , Norm. Did anyone mention _Value, Price and Profit_ yet ? It
was explicitly a popular lecture by Karl Marx on the fundamental's of his
approach to political economy.
-
i pulled that essay off louis's list along with a bunch of others, incl
Two observations:
1) It has already been noted on this list
that Harry Dexter White, cofounder of the IMF
and World Bank at Bretton Woods with Keynes
was actually a Soviet agent, based on the Venona
tapes.
2) Skidelsky's linking of the German financial
plans with the emergence
Louis,
It has been several decades since the "Cornell
professor" Doug Dowd was at Cornell. He was
at San Jose State for many years after leaving
Cornell. Now 80 years old, he is retired and mostly
hanging out in Bologna, Italy with his third wife who
runs a feminist bookstore there.
Barkley
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/00 06:57PM >>>
Michael wrote:
>Marx's use of needs is similar to Sen's terminology of capabilities. I[t]
>does not
>mean -- gee, I'd like a liposuction or a hair or breast transplant -- but
>here is
>an opportunity (as Jim suggested) to expand my world and make my
Peter Dorman wrote:
>... I suspect that publicizing the ongoing status of a betting game would
>tend to interfere with discourse just as constant opinion polling does to
>our elections and repeated straw votes would do to a discussion at a
>meeting.
Just about anything that happens at a meeti
Jim,
Let's keep in mind that there is a crucial
difference between a "slowdown" (reduction
in the rate of still positive growth) and a "recession,"
actual negative growth. One of the reasons why
those downturns go fast once they start is for the
oldest of Keynesian reasons, one rapidly bein
Jim,
Schumpeter may have "celebrated" entrepreneurship.
But, he was the one who coined the phrase, "creative
destruction." He fully understood that it was not an unmixed
blessing...
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-
From: Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL P
Louis,
Exactly that they don't.
Barkley
-Original Message-
From: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, December 04, 2000 1:15 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:5485] Re: Re: needs, wants, definitions
>Barkley:
>>Louis,
>> Guess I'll dust it
Marxist use of the word "need" is related to the word "necessity" , as in "freedom is
the mastery of necessity".
Max (and Louis),
I am not disputing that there is much that
is exploitative in the trade and investment
relations involved in the integration of poorer
countries into the world economy. Obviously
Sweden is in many ways a special case. But,
would the EU as a whole be drastically worse
off
OK, folks,
I am facing a severe end-of-semester workload
crunch. Discussion has been high quality generally,
and lively, but also getting a bit too high volume for
me at this moment (and probably most of you have
noted that I have trouble keeping my trap shut when
I am on here). So, I'm g
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/00 01:01PM >>>
CB: Nice going , Norm. Did anyone mention _Value, Price and Profit_ yet ? It
was explicitly a popular lecture by Karl Marx on the fundamental's of his
approach to political economy.
-
i pulled that essay off lo
thank you for your response that leads me to my next question:
if co-ops can successfully give people what they want at a price that
excludes "surplus value", then why haven't they become a major factor in
republican-capitalist societies?
norm
-Original Message-
From: Michael Perelman
JL: I don't have good enough ears to agree with Eric
Clapton that CDs are anathema (since they don't sound good)
-
please ignore what Eric and other luddites tell you about CD sound quality
because it is far better than that of tapes and LPs. li
>Louis,
> Exactly that they don't.
>Barkley
Okay, let me spell out what the problem is since you are not interested in
doing so. If Sweden did not have access to cheap oil, the high standard of
living would go down the drain tomorrow. The pillage of the third world has
a complex character. If
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/00 04:25PM >>
and ascend from
the concrete to the abstract (Marx). Or, if you will, at the level of
abstraction at which it doesn;t make a difference, we can just say that we
need lots of new ways to satisfy the old neeed, so the abstraction doesn't
affect the poi
At 01:00 PM 12/4/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Synarchist movement.
the anarcho-syndicalists?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
>been reading a lot about the marxist "dialectic" these days. would a
>translation be: dialectic = social "law" or inevitable cause-effect
>relationship among social events?
The best quick summary of the Marxian dialectic would be to say that Marx
and Marxists see society as a interconnected d
At 01:32 PM 12/4/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Jim,
> Let's keep in mind that there is a crucial
>difference between a "slowdown" (reduction
>in the rate of still positive growth) and a "recession,"
>actual negative growth. One of the reasons why
>those downturns go fast once they start is for the
At 01:35 PM 12/4/00 -0500, you wrote:
> Schumpeter may have "celebrated" entrepreneurship.
>But, he was the one who coined the phrase, "creative
>destruction." He fully understood that it was not an unmixed
>blessing...
yes, Schumpeter was better than the "Austrian school" (the vons, Mises
At 01:55 PM 12/4/00 -0500, you wrote:
>if co-ops can successfully give people what they want at a price that
>excludes "surplus value", then why haven't they become a major factor in
>republican-capitalist societies?
there are at least two reasons:
(1) if they grow, they lose most or all of thei
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/00 08:56AM >>>
Hi Ken
One of the interesting bi-products of our deregulated, "liberated"
post-Thatcher world is just how relevant the analyses of older critics like
Marx and Veblen have become once again. Jim Cypher wrote an excellent
chapter for volume 2 of Paul Dal
>
>Justin, on the other hand, is using non-standard (non-Schumpeterian) sense
>because he dropped Schumpeterian/Austrian view that "entrepreneurship"
>involves aggressive profit-seeking (without telling us that he was doing
>so).
That's just not true. I told you REPEATEDLY. I am telling you NOW
>CB: Yea ,the word for innovation with socialism should be "innovation", not
>entrepreneurship. Seeesh.
>
Not the same thing. In my lexicon, innovation is coming up with new
techniques or products, entrepreneurship is coming up with new needs.
Of course, the significance of my nonstan
>Here, scare words for socialists: markets, boo! profits, yaaah! management,
>eek! efficiency, arrrggh! entrepreneurship, yikes!
>
>That's part of why we are in the fix we are in.
>
>--jks
What do you mean by "we", white man.
Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org
An interesting idea, but I am at the office and dob't have the German texts
at hand. I will look this up and determine whether I think there is anything
to it. --jks
>Marxist use of the word "need" is related to the word "necessity" , as in
>"freedom is the mastery of necessity".
>
>
>Marxist use of the word "need" is related to the word "necessity" , as in
>"freedom is the mastery of necessity".
>
OOps. The quote is that freedom is the RECOGNITION of necessity, not the
same thing, Charles. --jk
>thank you for your response that leads me to my next question:
>
>if co-ops can successfully give people what they want at a price that
>excludes "surplus value", then why haven't they become a major factor in
>republican-capitalist societies?
>
>norm
>
>
I have a rough draft paper on this. For
Yeah, but recall what he says about method in the Grundrisse. --jks
>and ascend from
>the concrete to the abstract (Marx). Or, if you will, at the level of
>abstraction at which it doesn;t make a difference, we can just say that we
>need lots of new ways to satisfy the old neeed, so the abstract
Sources, Jim? Especially on the bank stuff. I know the growth stuff, though
if you have something I'd like to read it. --jks
>>if co-ops can successfully give people what they want at a price that
>>excludes "surplus value", then why haven't they become a major factor in
>>republican-capitalist
Oh, I see. The traditional revolutionary Marxist left is going from strength
to strength, buildinmg huge mass parties in the advanced countries, ruling
successfully in large parts of the third world, putting capitalsim to shame
and drawing millions of steely-eyed adherents. How foolish of me no
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/00 01:55PM >>>
thank you for your response that leads me to my next question:
if co-ops can successfully give people what they want at a price that
excludes "surplus value", then why haven't they become a major factor in
republican-capitalist societies?
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/00 02:57PM >>>
Here, scare words for socialists: markets, boo! profits, yaaah! management,
eek! efficiency, arrrggh! entrepreneurship, yikes!
That's part of why we are in the fix we are in.
(((
CB: Scare words for Hayekians: planning hahahahhah. efficie
to CB: can you make a substantiated case for capitalists putting co-ops out
of business? of course one would be for banks to lend at higher interest
rates as JD says. what other destructive mechanisms do they have?
to JD: can you corroborate banks lending at higher rates? that is
ideologically
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/00 03:09PM >>>
>
>Marxist use of the word "need" is related to the word "necessity" , as in
>"freedom is the mastery of necessity".
>
OOps. The quote is that freedom is the RECOGNITION of necessity, not the
same thing, Charles. --jk
(((
CB: Ps, you m
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/00 03:08PM >>>
An interesting idea, but I am at the office and dob't have the German texts
at hand. I will look this up and determine whether I think there is anything
to it. --jks
>Marxist use of the word "need" is related to the word "necessity" , as in
>"free
I don't have the sources at my fingertips, but there are several case
studies of successful utopian-socialists experiments in California that were
actively suppressed, using legal and extra-legal means, by what can only be
described as agents of Capitalist interest, when they became economically
s
Martin Brown wrote:
>I don't have the sources at my fingertips, but there are several case
>studies of successful utopian-socialists experiments in California that were
>actively suppressed, using legal and extra-legal means, by what can only be
>described as agents of Capitalist interest, when th
"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:
> Louis,
> Guess I'll dust it up with you here.
> Several years ago, don't remember on which
> list, you said that Sweden's high standard of living
> was purchased at the expense of the sweat of
> workers in Central America growing fruit, etc.
> or wo
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/00 03:30PM >>>
to CB: can you make a substantiated case for capitalists putting co-ops out
of business? of course one would be for banks to lend at higher interest
rates as JD says. what other destructive mechanisms do they have?
((
CB: Credit unions are c
At 08:15 PM 12/4/00 +, you wrote:
>Sources, Jim? Especially on the bank stuff. I know the growth stuff,
>though if you have something I'd like to read it. --jks
>
>>>if co-ops can successfully give people what they want at a price that
>>>excludes "surplus value", then why haven't they become
Jim Devine wrote:
>
> perhaps more importantly, they've purged the accelerator effect and the
> debt-deflation theory of great depressions.
In the history of industrial capitalism, how many "great depressions"
have there been?
Carrol
At 07:50 PM 12/4/00 +, you wrote:
>>Justin, on the other hand, is using non-standard (non-Schumpeterian) sense
>>because he dropped Schumpeterian/Austrian view that "entrepreneurship"
>>involves aggressive profit-seeking (without telling us that he was doing so).
>
>That's just not true. I t
>as far as I can tell, you never defined your "lexicon" (entrepreneurship,
>needs), so I was forced to divine your meaning (especially since you don't
>use standard meanings).
>
>Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
Maybe this would help:
OXFORD DICTIONARY ONLINE
Ah, but you haven't determined whether _I think_ there is anything in it!
Sorry bout that formulation. Hazard of my job. I was talking with a
philosopher friend about a case, explaining it to him. He said, so you are
arguing . . . . Ah, I said. We don't argue, where I work. We _hold_. But
_he
Thanks. If you have specific cites, I'd appreciate 'em. --jks
>
>Gary Dymski has done a lot on this. . . . and
>others (at one point or another) associated with UMass-Amherst Economics
>have pointed to the refusal of banks to provide that financing.
A case hit the Supreme Court a couple years ago in which the banks tried to
curtail the credit unions.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901
It['s not worth goin on about, but I did what I call definition. I didn't
provide a lexicon. I didn't says:
entrepreneurship =df creation of new needsa nd ways to satisfy them.
I just explained, almost immediately and many times, using that exact
expression, that that was what I meant. In addi
Barkley sends the following comment:
> Synarchism was a peculiarly French political
>movement that started in the 30s and went into the
>50s. It was probably more right wing than left wing,
>and was a kind of bureaucratic, indicatively planned
>nationalism. In short, what actually came out
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Ah, but you haven't determined whether _I think_ there is anything in it!
Sorry bout that formulation. Hazard of my job. I was talking with a
philosopher friend about a case, explaining it to him. He said, so you are
arguing . . . . Ah, I said. We d
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