Berezhovsky backs liberalism

2001-05-10 Thread Chris Burford
The relationship between the economic base and the superstructure, between money and politics, is as transparent in Russia as anywhere in the world. "Follow the money", could well be a marxist principle. Boris Berezhovsky, in prudent self-imposed exile, says he is 100% prepared to finance a ne

Re: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman
Why you can fly from Chico to San Francisco for a little less than $200. More than 1$ per mile in a tiny plane. On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 12:15:02AM -0500, Ken Hanly wrote: > Deregulation surely does not minimize transportation costs for smaller > communities and to distant communities. For them d

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Ken Hanly
Deregulation surely does not minimize transportation costs for smaller communities and to distant communities. For them deregulation is often a disaster. Before deregulation many smaller cities had to be served as the price airlines had to pay for lucrative routes. Now these cities have to beg air

RE: Re: RE: Re: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread David Shemano
In reply to Christian Gregory --- "I think deregulating everything is a good idea -- I am an ideologue. But I look at the history of the 20th Century, and I see the power and scope of the state increasing everywhere. And, as a reader of Mancur Olson and other pub

Re: RE: Re: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Christian Gregory
"I didn't say big money controls, Doug Henwood did. Go bother him." Eh? "Of course big money influences politics. Marxians share that insight with everybody else. " "I think deregulating everything is a good idea -- I am an ideologue. But I look at the history of the 20th Century, and I see

Re: Re: RE: Re: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Ian Murray
> === > Are their any "left Popperians" in our game show audience today? :-) > > Ian == Dag; grammatically addled again..time for a nap Ian

Re: RE: Re: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect
>This was, as Mr. Proyect implies, apparently a victory of ideas over money >and concentrated interest, which makes no sense either under a Marxian >analysis, or public choice theory. > >David Shemano You have misinterpreted me. I tried to explain that deregulation of the airline industry express

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Doug Henwood
David Shemano wrote: >Of course big money influences politics. Marxians share that insight with >everybody else. However, to the extent that Marxists insist that the state >represents capitalist interests, which in turn is manifested by big money >contributions to politicians, how in the world

Re: RE: Re: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Ian Murray
> This was, as Mr. Proyect implies, apparently a victory of ideas over money > and concentrated interest, which makes no sense either under a Marxian > analysis, or public choice theory. > > > David Shemano === Are their any "left Popperians" in our game show audience today? :-) Ian

RE: Re: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread David Shemano
Michael Perelman wrote: <> -- I didn't say big money controls, Doug Henwood did. Go bother him. I think airline deregulation was a great idea. I think deregulating everything is a good idea -- I am an ideologue. But I look at the history of the

Re: Re: Re: Land Productivity

2001-05-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
I had not been following this lengthy thread on Pomeranz. Michael Pugliese, Better Mao Than Never... - Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:40 AM Subject: [PEN-L:11356] Re: Re: Land Productivity > Michael

Re: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman
Why would you think that the airlines would necessarily be in lock step with big money in general. David, you keep referring to how marxists think. Marx himself distinguished between capital in general and specific capitals. Airline deregulation was a wedge. The airlines were non-competitive,

Fwd: Bush's proposed tax cuts

2001-05-10 Thread Jim Devine
FYI: here's a letter I sent to the L.A. TIMES. As usual with such efforts, I toned down the politics in order to get it published. >Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 13:58:57 -0700 >To: "Editors, Los Angeles TIMES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Bush's proposed tax cuts

AAAAWWGGGG!!!

2001-05-10 Thread Jim Devine
Today I discovered that the Jesuit saint that my college is named after, Robert Bellarmine, was the man who axed Galileo for heresy... Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

Re: Re: RE: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Jim Devine
David Shemano wrote: > > 1. Why, with the exception of United Airlines, did every > major interstate > >airline testify against deregulation? And how come the legislation passed > >notwithstanding their opposition? I would guess that they opposed the legislation in order to make sure

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread David Shemano
Doug Henwood wrote: --- >This is a very interesting theory you have. Whatever the government does, >by definition, is in the long-term class interests of >industry/business/bourgeois/guys who wear tophats/play golf, even if the >industry strenuously opposes the governme

Cherry Pick

2001-05-10 Thread Max Sawicky
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BLS Daily Report

2001-05-10 Thread Richardson_D
> was 402,500, a decrease of 3,000 from the previous week's revised average > of 405,500 (Associated Press, > http://www.latimes.com/wires/20010510/ap_jobless010510.htm). > > Many of the nation's retailers reported an improvement in sales for April, > but Wall Street analysts

Re: Re: Land Productivity

2001-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman
Michael, I don't know what your point is. I hope that you are not starting a good Mao/bad Mao debate. I recall that when mainstream Western agricultural types first visited China after the Nixon visit, they were astounded by the way the Chinese were able to feed so many people on such poor land.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Doug Henwood
David Shemano wrote: >This is a very interesting theory you have. Whatever the government does, >by definition, is in the long-term class interests of >industry/business/bourgeois/guys who wear tophats/play golf, even if the >industry strenuously opposes the government action. No wonder Marxist

Re: RE: Re: RE: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect
David Shemano: >This is a very interesting theory you have. Whatever the government does, >by definition, is in the long-term class interests of >industry/business/bourgeois/guys who wear tophats/play golf, even if the >industry strenuously opposes the government action. No wonder Marxist >analy

RE: Re: RE: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread David Shemano
In reply to Louis Proyect: - > 1. Why, with the exception of United Airlines, did every major interstate >airline testify against deregulation? And how come the legislation passed >notwithstanding their opposition? 2. With respect to your criticism

Re: Re: RE: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: >David, if he does not do it on his own, you should prompt Doug Henwood to >answer your question regarding the increasing use of the airlines. I haven't looked at the numbers in years, but when I did in the early 90s, there was virtually no difference in the number of pa

Re: Re: Land Productivity

2001-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect
>http://www.cup.org/ >Mao's War Against Nature >Politics and the Environment in Revolutionary China > >> While P questions the western model of developmet, he still seeks >> to convince us that the Chinese model achieved the "highest >> agricultural yields in the world" due to their efficient land

Re: Land Productivity

2001-05-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.cup.org/ Mao's War Against Nature Politics and the Environment in Revolutionary China Shapiro, Judith In clear and compelling prose, Judith Shapiro relates the great, untold story of the devastating impact of Chinese politics on China's environment during the Mao years. Maoist China p

3 Killed in Bolivia Protest

2001-05-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.dc.indymedia.org/front.php3?group=webcast&sort=date_desc&rate=non e&page=123 http://www.globalexchange.org/wbimf/Shultz.html 3 Killed in Bolivia Protest by peter myhre 5:58pm Sun Apr 9 '00 3 people were reported killed in Bolivia in separate clashes after police, armed with machine gun

Re: RE: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect
David Shemano: > 1. Why, with the exception of United Airlines, did every major interstate >airline testify against deregulation? And how come the legislation passed >notwithstanding their opposition? Because they didn't recognize their own long-term class interests as well as bourgeo

Re: RE: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman
David, if he does not do it on his own, you should prompt Doug Henwood to answer your question regarding the increasing use of the airlines. Liberals and conservatives often come together in matters of deregulation -- mostly on the grounds that the free market can eliminate some kind of problem.

RE: Airline deregulation

2001-05-10 Thread David Shemano
Mr. Proyect -- Your post brought back wonderful memories of a paper I wrote as a freshman in college entitled "The Airline Deregulation Act of 1978." As a right-wing ideologue who had read Mancur Olson and other public choice theorists, I wanted to understand how in the world it came to pass tha

Re: Re: Black Athena

2001-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman
The problem was not necessarily with what you are thinking, but how it comes across. I was just suggesting that you don't need to stir up unnecessary controversy. It just confuses matters. On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 01:59:00PM -0300, Ricardo Duchesne wrote: > > > I think the Lou's question had to

Re: Black Athena

2001-05-10 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
> I think the Lou's question had to do with the way you presented your > thought. Bringing up the Black Athena is an emotional subject. I'm > far from an expert in the field -- not even a novice, but I suspect > that most professional journals would be reluctant to give a fair > hearing to the

Rally for Steelworkers! (May 12)

2001-05-10 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
>Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:02:58 -0400 >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mary Beth Tschantz) >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Rally for Steelworkers! > >RALLY AGAINST AK STEEL'S UNFAIR LOCKOUT OF 620 ST

election news from india

2001-05-10 Thread ravi narayan
since there was some interest in kerala and india in general, i thought this might be of interest: Good News for Communists in Indian State Elections http://news.lycos.com/headlines/World/article.asp?docid=RTINTERNATIONAL-INDIA-ELECTIONS-DC&date=20010510 --ravi

Re: Land Productivity

2001-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman
I think the Lou's question had to do with the way you presented your thought. Bringing up the Black Athena is an emotional subject. I'm far from an expert in the field -- not even a novice, but I suspect that most professional journals would be reluctant to give a fair hearing to the Afrocentric

Land Productivity

2001-05-10 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Louis: > Is this diatribe going into your article? Is this meant for Science > and Society? If so, expect angry letters from black readers. Actually, > no problem since I doubt any African-American reads the journal--let > alone writes for it--even though there are articles commenting on them > fr

Re: Land Productivity

2001-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect
Ricardo: >history. Never mind the "poly", if you can show that either China, >Japan, or India were as advanced as Europe, then you're ready to >join the multicultural crowd and sing "We are the World". What >about the Africans? Well..Nubia, yes, that's right, it has a nice >ring to it. But

Land Productivity

2001-05-10 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
While P questions the western model of developmet, he still seeks to convince us that the Chinese model achieved the "highest agricultural yields in the world" due to their efficient land-saving practices. That they were as efficient, as rational, as developed, as powerful as the westerners. T

The first postmodernist programming language

2001-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect
[From a talk by Larry Wall, the inventor of the Perl programming language--my bread-and-butter.] I would like to say one thing here about objectivity, however. While I despise the Modern Cult of Objectivity, I also despise the quasi-postmodern Cult of Subjectivity. I call it absolute cultural rel

Re: Aztecs

2001-05-10 Thread Jim Devine
At 09:25 AM 05/10/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Last night I watched the first part of a PBS television show on the >Conquistadors (http://www.pbs.org/conquistadors/), which devoted one hour >to Hernán Cortés, who did to the Aztec empire what Hitler did to the USSR, but at least the USSR won! maybe "wh

BLS Daily Report

2001-05-10 Thread Richardson_D
> BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, MAY 9, 2001: > > Nonfarm business productivity fell 0.1 percent in the first quarter, the > measure's first decline since the first quarter of 1995, the Bureau of > Labor Statistics reports. Analysts say they had been expecting growth of > about 1.0 percent for the

Aztecs

2001-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect
Last night I watched the first part of a PBS television show on the Conquistadors (http://www.pbs.org/conquistadors/), which devoted one hour to Hernán Cortés, who did to the Aztec empire what Hitler did to the USSR, and the second to Francisco Pizarro, destroyer of the Incas. There is a certain

(Fwd) land productivity

2001-05-10 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
> I would like to see the post you are responding to? And "Deirdre" is > not by any chance "Deirdre McCloskey" is she? If so she is very > brilliant but quite vicious. > Deleted it. You probably could find it in the EH archives (March 2001). It is McCloskey. She never responded to this post.

Agricultural Revolution?

2001-05-10 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
> > that small > > scale agriculture is not inherently inefficient, > > Efficient or inefficient at what or by what measure? Efficient at > producing food, or efficient at providing surplus value? Or efficient > in competing with other capitalist firms? > > Carrol > The context out of which

Palestine (May 10, Columbus, OH)

2001-05-10 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
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