Billions of pounds of public expenditure may depend on an opinion about the
origin of the anthrax, if an invasion of Iraq is still on the options agenda.
I share this passage from the editorial in the latest New Scientist, which
as always is quietly and consistently socially progressive:
Some
Michael, Marysville is the mail center for all of the
north valley. Chico mail gets postmarked in
Marysville, even when it's just mailed across town (it
goes 50 miles south, then 50 miles north...). The
letters could have been mailed from Marysville, but
not likely-- they could just have easily
Milburn rejects Bevan's NHS vision
Health secretary attacks Labour hero's centralist legacy
David Walker
Wednesday October 24, 2001
The Guardian
Nye Bevan, paid-up hero of Labour history and founder of the national
health service, will be pushed off his plinth tomorrow by the
health
Labour MPs join assault over Byers aide's memo
Michael White, poltical editor
Wednesday October 24, 2001
The Guardian
The transport secretary, Stephen Byers, was last night fighting for his
own political life as well as that of his embattled special
adviser, Jo Moore, after Labour and Liberal
Pentagon approves super strain
US developing more potent anthrax to test vaccine
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday October 24, 2001
The Guardian
The Pentagon has approved the development of a genetically modified
super-anthrax bacteria to test US defences against
biological attack,
From jim d's short version of his crisis theory, i think i make out these two
main points;
1. high profit rate and output to capital ratio before onset of the Depression
speak empirically against rising OCC/FROP theory.
2. jim's theory is basically sweezy's underconsumptionism with the
underconsumptionism
by Rakesh Bhandari
24 October 2001 00:09 UTC
Charles,
i'm going to send this reply to pen-l.
we don't seem to be getting far. i thank you for having taken the time to have
sent me rudy fichtenbaum's piece a while ago; after a couple of moves i am
having trouble
It was mildly exciting to hear a story yesterday on US National Public
Radio about _me_, or at least about people like me. The story is about
how more and more people in the US are going on-line to check out the
Guardian Unlimited site (and others, like the Canadian Broadcasting site)
to get a
Okay, let's stop trashing poor old Tony. Here's a different perspective.
-- Jim Devine
From: Slate Magazine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 05:53:38 -0700 SLATE POLITICS
Wed., Oct. 23, 2001
foreigners: The Peculiar Phenomenon of Tony Blair
By Anne Applebaum
Anne Applebaum, courtesy of Jim Devine:
Suddenly, a large chunk of the British left hates Tony Blair...
=
Suddenly?
By leftwing press, does Applebaum mean Socialist Campaign Group News,
Socialist Worker, Scottish Socialist Voice, Weekly Worker,
Morning Star, etc.? Surely not the Guardian!
The budget surplus obsession is costing us dearly
By KENNETH DAVIDSON
Monday 22 October 2001
Why are both sides of politics obsessed with the size of the budget deficit
or surplus? Is it really the measure of economic success or failure, or is
it just another bit of jargon designed to
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 23, 2001:
RELEASED TODAY: Regional and state unemployment rates were stable from
August to September, but higher than a year earlier. All four regions
reported little or no change over the month, and 44 states and the
District of
reply to charles:
Does Mattick connect his analysis of business cycle crisis to revolutionary leap ?
Mattick's main contribution was to show the limits of govt intervention by
which the business cycle had been managed. He did not deny the short-term
effectiveness of indebted prosperity but
Charles, here's Jim D's underconsumptionism:
Classical underconsumptionism posited that depression is normal for a
capitalist economy, arising from a persistent tendency toward low consumer
spending [Bleaney, 1976: 11]. Marx and many Marxists decisively criticized this
theory and have been
Rakesh wrote:
Charles, here's Jim D's underconsumptionism:
I think it's wrong to call my views underconsumptionism, since I don't
fit with Bleaney's definition, which is based on a serious survey of the
history of economic thought. Also, underconsumptionist is an epithet used
too often by the
[Financial Times]
A poor defence for share prices
Many depend on the relationships between bond yields and earnings
yields to value equities. But they are wrong to do so, says Martin
Wolf
Published : Oct 23 2001 19:02:14 GMT | Last Updated : Oct 23 2001
19:10:13 GMT
I know that I do not know
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2001:
RELEASED TODAY: Median weekly earnings of the nation's 100.9 million
full-time wage and salary workers were $595 in the third quarter of 2001,
the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports. This was 3.5 percent higher than a
I've always found this sort of reasoning, which
permeates economics textbooks, amazingly
ideological. According to Wolf, if I buy a bond with a
coupon of 7% and I expect inflation to be 4% then
I am only really earning 3%. If suddenly I alter
my expectations -- I decide to think that
now, now Jim, you may want to call your theory overaccumulation but it is
precisely the kind of overaccumulation that would lead in Sweezy's estimation
to underconsumption. In fact you underline this underconsumption consequence
yourself, so I am not putting words in your mouth. And whether
At 12:45 PM 10/24/01 -0700, you wrote:
now, now Jim, you may want to call your theory overaccumulation but it is
precisely the kind of overaccumulation that would lead in Sweezy's estimation
to underconsumption.
The reason why my theory is not underconsumptionist is that
overaccumulation need
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
At 12:45 PM 10/24/01 -0700, you wrote:
now, now Jim, you may want to call your theory overaccumulation but it is
precisely the kind of overaccumulation that would lead in Sweezy's estimation
to underconsumption.
The reason why my theory is not
Rakesh wrote:
crisis can result from failure to realize surplus value or shortage of
surplus
value in the production process. don't disagree--how could i?
I don't try to be controversial as much as make clear the laws of motion of
the system.
i don't
understand your interpretation of the
Russia anxious over grip on oil as US firms join Great Game
By Ben Aris in Moscow and Ahmed Rashid in Lahore
(Filed: 24/10/2001)
FOR all the talk of international alliances and the future of Afghanistan,
the real concern for Moscow in Central Asia is cementing its control of the
oil supply and
To judge from the enthusiastic, largely North
American-owned British press, Britain standing shoulder to shoulder with
the United States in Afghanistan meant major military involvement. In
fact, the aircraft bombing targets there have been exclusively American.
The British contribution has been
when was the US system of postal savings accounts abolished? why? (When did
it arise?)
when did the US savings loan system arise?
why did credit unions become popular and when?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
As if perhaps in defence of Blair, for all his dedicated opportunism, there
is some remarkable evidence tonight that his frame of reference is indeed
in some respects very different from Bush's.
Within 6 weeks of the WTC bomb, the readiness of the British government to
deal with its own
I believe that the SL's began during the depression. Previously, you had
to pay off your loan with a giant balloon payment all at once at the end
of the term of the loan. It proved disastous during the depression.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 03:30:05PM -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
when was the US
MERIP Press Information Note 73
Understanding Political Dissent in Saudi Arabia
Gwenn Okruhlik
October 24, 2001
(Gwenn Okruhlik has written on development and opposition in Saudi Arabia.
She teaches political science at the University of Arkansas.)
The weeks following September 11 brought
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I don't try to be controversial as much as make clear the laws of motion of
the system.
Jim, the point is that if a crisis results from underconsumption as a result of
disproportionality, it can be overcome in a different way than an
underconsumption
War Boom More Pentagon spending could actually hurt
Silicon Valley Hal Plotkin, Special to SF Gate
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 ©2001 SF Gate
Shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks,
Congress approved President Bush's request to boost
the Pentagon budget roughly 65 percent by 2005 to
more
Afghan civilians hurt in U.S. airstrikes trickling into Pakistani hospitals
By LAURA KING
The Associated Press
10/24/01 2:49 PM
QUETTA, Pakistan (AP) -- The explosions were so loud and so close that the
Afghan family, cowering in their mud-brick home, decided to make a run for a
relative's
last may i had a debate about hitchens' remarks on bob kerrey's war time
activities. i criticized hitchens. a joanna sheldon and peter k rose to
hitchens' defense. i referred to peter k as peter kitchens. he wrote me offlist
to tell me that i was an asshole for calling him kitchens; it turns
Rakesh, this sort of stuff has no business here.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 06:59:23PM -0700, Rakesh Bhandari wrote:
last may i had a debate about hitchens' remarks on bob kerrey's war time
activities. i criticized hitchens. a joanna sheldon and peter k rose to
hitchens' defense. i referred to
[Financial Times; considering the author, once more we're seeing 'em
be candid. Lord knows what would happen to the Republicrats if
governments followed some of his recommendations
]
Tracking down the dirty money
Legislative activism triggered by current terrorist threats lacks the
co-ordination
I want to keep all dirty laundry from other lists off pen-l.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All cross-posting must be discouraged, too. I can't imagine subscribing to
pen-l _and_ lbo-talk and receiving two copies of so many messages...
At 07:22 PM 10/24/2001 -0700, you wrote:
I want to keep all dirty laundry from other lists off pen-l.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
sorry michael. i thought that with the hitchens' line being defended here by
georgia and andrew h, people would be interested in peter k's having downloaded
without any criticism at all a safire column on kerrey's actions in vietnam.
can't quite make out why peter k would call me an asshole
pen-l listmember anthony d'costa has had some very important exchanges in EPW
(Bombay) about the nature of the global steel industry and the nature of the
world market today. i would be most interested in his comments on the recent
protectionist decisions handed down in the US. are they merely
- Original Message -
From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 8:59 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:19061] Re: dirty laundry
All cross-posting must be discouraged, too. I can't imagine
subscribing to
pen-l _and_ lbo-talk and receiving two copies of
Rakesh, I hope that you meant to send this note to me personally rather
than to the list.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rakesh, I hope that you meant to send this note to me personally
rather
than to the list.
--
A senior moment?
Ian
Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Rakesh, I hope that you meant to send this note to me personally rather
than to the list.
oh my goodness, was that to the list? i couldn't have meant to show in public
that there is anything shady and untrustworthy about a writer who has gone out
I can hardly follow that long pointless paragraph. You seem obsessed with
this Hitchens thing. I guess you think you're talking to a list filled
with c.h fansgo figure. And maybe you just might wanna wake up and
smell the coffee, Henwood's been more than sufficiently critical of c.h's
Stephen E Philion [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
What is your problem anyway?
it's pretty simple: henwood kicked me off his list after i criticized the
hitchens' kerry comments downloaded by henwood himself. you were there. so
shouldn't have the question been what's henwood's problem? what
My aplogies Michael, I see responding to this thread only carries on the
past soap operasI will stop responding...
Steve
Stephen Philion
Lecturer/PhD Candidate
Department of Sociology
2424 Maile Way
Social Sciences Bldg. # 247
Honolulu, HI 96822
If the Taliban disperse into populated civilian areas does the US just bomb
them anyway and consider civilians collateral damage? It begins to look like
that.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
Families blown apart, infants dying. The terrible images of this 'just war'
damage
Richard Lloyd Parry in Quetta
25
hitchens refers to my website http/peterk so i thought peterk was the name
hitchens used for his website address. i just saw the exchange between doug,
ian and kelley on lbo in which hitchens is cited. didn't realize that by
referring to my website hitchens was not referring to a website
Rally on Monday, October 29
Protest the Israeli Assault on Palestinians
the American War on Afghanistan!
Date: Monday, October 29
Time: 12:00 Noon
Location: the Peace Camp on the Oval at the Ohio State University, Columbus, OH
(Look for tents and a table for anti-war literature on the Oval!)
* For more info, contact the Committee for Justice at the Ohio State
University in Palestine at 614-668-6554.
Sorry for a mix-up in cutting pasting, but the name of the org
should of course have been the Committee for Justice in Palestine at
the Ohio State University. Now, I need some
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