Re: The mutation is complete

2002-09-30 Thread pms
Whee-doggy. That's gotta be the hardest workin' whore in Babylon. > HITCHENS: WE MUST FIGHT IRAQ > > By Christopher Hitchens > > http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12227453&method=full&; siteid=50143 > > > Louis Proyect > www.marxmail.org >

Re: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread pms
Yup. As I've been saying on LBO for several years, War with a Real Country. It's in the cards. The oil card is clearly a factor in the current tug-of-war between Baghdad, Washington and key members of the U.N. Security Council that oppose the Bush administration's push for a military move on I

Re: Question to James Devine

2002-09-30 Thread Joshua Bragg
I took a International Relations seminar course at Portland State University a few years ago where a State Department official spoke about globalization. He started his speech by noting that Globalization=Americanization and then exalted this form of globalization. When he finished and did not open

bullying

2002-09-30 Thread Michael Perelman
When is the last time anyone stood up to the US? Castro in the 50s? The NYT says that the Europeans caved on the world court. The Dems cave on everything. Bush probably can buy the Russians and cow the French on the Security Council. It is all very depressing. I recall hearing how all the Ge

Re: RE: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Sabri Oncu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I reject it too and I don't think Mark would disagree with that > either. So, I am not sure what is being dabeted here. > > Sabri === I was merely responding to Max' claims...[30743] Ian

RE: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Sabri Oncu
Ian wrote: > I follow Veblen somewhat on this score; the scientists-engineers > will gain sufficient political influence over the current crop > of morons. Hey! This is my whole purpose as a scientist and engineer. Why do you think I am here? I had enough of these current crop of morons. > Not

Re: RE: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Sabri Oncu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PEN-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:54 PM Subject: [PEN-L:30746] RE: oilism redux > Ian wrote: > > > Not to quibble, but given what we know of physics, > > ecology etc. there can be no such thing

Re: RE: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Louis Proyect
You can hear "Loving on Petrol" at: http://www.marxmail.org/petrol.mp3. Mine Doyran has been using Kazaa to download this song and other songs by other Turkish musicians from over 20 years ago that are simply not available at record stores or from cdnow.com, etc. I strongly suspect that 80 pe

Venezuela: Business leaders agree to general strike

2002-09-30 Thread Sabri Oncu
Business leaders agree to general strike to protest Chavez rule The Associated Press 9/30/02 7:30 PM CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- Venezuela's largest business association said Monday it would organize a general strike against the government of President Hugo Chavez, accusing the leader of refusin

Brazil's Debt Menaces U.S. Markets

2002-09-30 Thread Sabri Oncu
Brazil's Debt Menaces U.S. Markets By Charles Penty & James L. Tyson Sao Paulo, Sept. 30 (Bloomberg) -- In August, as a financial panic convulsed Brazil, the International Monetary Fund moved to quell the crisis by pledging to lend the nation a record $30 billion. Now, the markets say that migh

re: re: Advice please re Spam. My Thanks.

2002-09-30 Thread Hari Kumar
I would like to thank both Ravi & pbs for their time in reply. i) I may get back to you Ravi with more techno-specifics. ii) pbs: I understand when you say that the technical good advices, never seem to be 'possible' for the techno-faint-hearted! I count myself as in that category. iii) re the Pal

RE: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Sabri Oncu
> Ian wrote: > >> Not to quibble, but given what we know of physics, >> ecology etc. there can be no such thing as an energy >> crisis in our niche of the cosmos. > > But there can be an oil crisis, can't there? Probably > that day is not tomorrow but, sooner or later, there > will come a day when

RE: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Sabri Oncu
Ian wrote: > Not to quibble, but given what we know of physics, > ecology etc. there can be no such thing as an energy > crisis in our niche of the cosmos. But there can be an oil crisis, can't there? Probably that day is not tomorrow but, sooner or later, there will come a day when we will run

Re: RE: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Ian Murray
washingtonpost.com The U.S., Russia And Iraqi Oil By Eugene Rumer Monday, September 30, 2002; Page A19 Giants of the American and Russian oil industries will come together in Houston this week for the first U.S.-Russia Commercial Energy Summit. The event will bring together Cabinet members, top

Re: RE: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Max B. Sawicky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: [PEN-L:30743] RE: oilism redux It couldn't be more obvious that the proposed Bush reorientation of U.S. grand strategy is centered on oil, albeit wit

RE: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30730] oilism redux Mark Jones writes: > In times past some people on this list somewhat sneeringly referred to > the notion that energy politics might be an important cause of capitalist > crisis and of war as 'oilism'. Those of us who argued that apocalyptic > energy crises

RE: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Max B. Sawicky
It couldn't be more obvious that the proposed Bush reorientation of U.S. grand strategy is centered on oil, albeit with lots of accompanying political schemes. But energy crisis is a separate question. Another point is that there does seem to be some disagreement among elites over this policy, a

Re: Re: Re: The mutation is complete

2002-09-30 Thread Carrol Cox
Bill Lear wrote: > > > > I'm wondering if much besides trying to stop a "war" with Iraq is > worth our time right now. > > Bill What follows is really a reaction to 1969, not to Bill's post, and the danger I pose is some time away, if ever, but I think my point worth making. Bill, don't go

Re: Re: Re: Re: The mutation is complete

2002-09-30 Thread Ian Murray
White House Comment Line - (202) 456- White House Fax Line - (202) 456-2461 President George W. Bush's e-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vice President Dick Cheney's e-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] White House Address - 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington, DC 20500 US Capitol Switchboard - (202) 2

Re: Re: Re: The mutation is complete

2002-09-30 Thread Michael Perelman
Hear! Hear! On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 04:29:22PM -0500, Bill Lear wrote: > On Monday, September 30, 2002 at 14:11:58 (-0700) Michael Perelman writes: > >Is Cooper really worth our time? > > I'm wondering if much besides trying to stop a "war" with Iraq is > worth our time right now. > > > Bill >

Re: Re: The mutation is complete

2002-09-30 Thread Bill Lear
On Monday, September 30, 2002 at 14:11:58 (-0700) Michael Perelman writes: >Is Cooper really worth our time? I'm wondering if much besides trying to stop a "war" with Iraq is worth our time right now. Bill

Re: The mutation is complete

2002-09-30 Thread Michael Perelman
Is Cooper really worth our time? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Personalities and the List

2002-09-30 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/27/02 01:15PM >>> Didn't the withering process begin with the post Watergate dems coming to Congress? On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 01:12:17PM -0400, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > At 9:59 AM -0700 9/27/02, Michael Perelman wrote: > >How is it that so much of modern political discou

RE: The mutation is complete

2002-09-30 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30733] The mutation is complete > It appears that the butterfly has completed its > transformation into a worm, does this mean that Hitchens will become a butterfly in the future? anyway, doesn't the b'fly _lay eggs_ which become worms (caterpillars)? Nonetheless, it'

RE: Re: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Mark Jones
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of joanna bujes > Sent: 30 September 2002 20:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEN-L:30731] Re: oilism redux > >.As for "doomed"...not > America, just > the folks that currently run things. Not so,

The mutation is complete

2002-09-30 Thread Louis Proyect
It appears that the butterfly has completed its transformation into a worm, judging from this disgusting item that appears in a British tabloid. I cite a section that is indistinguishable from the tripe you can read in The New Republic or the Wall Street Journal editorial section. HITCHENS: WE

RE: Re: academic lingo

2002-09-30 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30722] Re: academic lingo Ravi wrote: >>>the philosopher quine i think (jks can correct me, that is if he is still being nice to me ;-)), or perhaps one of the logical positivists, suggested that we should do away with ordinary language and use a new pseudo-mathematical langu

Re: oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread joanna bujes
At 08:27 PM 09/30/2002 +0100, you wrote: >Here's how the US news media now tends to rpesent the case for US predation >in the Middle East. We're seeing a lot of this kind of 'bonanza' stuff but >what they don't talk about is what will happen if they _don't_ get their >hands on Iraqi oil, for whate

oilism redux

2002-09-30 Thread Mark Jones
[In times past some people on this list somewhat sneeringly referred to the notion that energy politics might be an important cause of capitalist crisis and of war as 'oilism'. Those of us who argued that apocalyptic energy crises were just around the corner were derided as Malthusian misanthrope

Re: Re: War Against Literacy=$$$$

2002-09-30 Thread joanna bujes
At 07:30 PM 09/29/2002 -0700, Charles wrote: >I would bet you used phonics methods in beginning >reading within a much larger approach to reading, >which usually is, in a nutshell, to learn to read >by reading so as to have lifelong reading to >learn. That might include sight vocabulary/whole >wor

Re: Re: academic lingo

2002-09-30 Thread Carrol Cox
ravi wrote: > > Devine, James wrote: > > Isn't that kind of thinking a basis for a lot of the meaningless jargon > > that pollutes academic life? > > probably true! but what is the alternative? "Meaningless jargon" need not be a redundancy. That is, there is a great deal of such jargon, but

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Singapore

2002-09-30 Thread Ann Li
It certainly was always thought of as part of Malaya, but I would say that depending on the time period, the chain or network of entrepots including Rangoon in Burma and Malaya's ports of Malacca, Penang etc on the west and up through Haiphong, Hong Kong, Shanghai etc on the East is more important

Re: The persistence of feudalism

2002-09-30 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Louis Proyect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Why do the freedoms > that we take for granted outside the workplace suddenly disappear when we > enter it? ''Belated Feudalism,'' a study by UCLA political scientist Karen > Orren, suggests a surprising, and shocking, answe

The persistence of feudalism

2002-09-30 Thread Louis Proyect
Boston Globe, 9/29/2002 Lavatory and Liberty The secret history of the bathroom break By Corey Robin IN HIS NEVER-ENDING quest for control of the workplace, Henry Ford confronted many foes, but none as wily or rebellious as the human digestive tract. Hoping to tame what he called the body's '

Re: Re: Re: debunking greenspan redux or, finance as bubble gum and duct tape

2002-09-30 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >this sounds like the author believes in classical economics. > > This is one of the weird things that happen when lefties cite > right-wing bears as sources. Right-wing bears are very often > Austrians and/or libertaria

Re: academic lingo

2002-09-30 Thread ravi
Devine, James wrote: > [was: RE: [PEN-L:30615] Re: Re: Re: Personalities and the List] > > Ravi wrote: >>the philosopher quine i think (jks can correct me, that is if he is > still being nice to me ;-)), or perhaps one of the logical positivists, > suggested that we should do away with ordinary

Re: debunking greenspan redux or, finance asbubble gum and duct tape

2002-09-30 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day all, Quoth Doug: > This is one of the weird things that happen when lefties cite > right-wing bears as sources. Right-wing bears are very often > Austrians and/or libertarians of some stripe, and believe that state > economic policy is impotent or destructive. Lefties who do this are > pro

Re: Re: debunking greenspan redux or, finance asbubble gum and duct tape

2002-09-30 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote: > Doug Noland writes: > >... This key issue goes all the way back to the John Law's Great >fallacy: that economic wealth can be created simply by providing >additional money ("finance"). And in reasoning that either lacks >credibility or understanding, Greenspan would lik

Celebration of Lower East Side

2002-09-30 Thread Soleil
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Re: RE: Re: War Against Literacy=$$$$

2002-09-30 Thread Ken Gordon
I think this is the point. The interesting research issue for someone is to examine how and why phonics vs. whole language became a religious issue. On Monday, September 30, 2002, at 09:47 AM, Devine, James wrote: Anyway, my point is that phonics work for some students. The problem with public ed

RE: Re: War Against Literacy=$$$$

2002-09-30 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30697] Re: War Against Literacy= I wrote: > >  The Bushite teach-to-the-test Bushwa is a  disaster (as is the whole "Leave > > No Child Behind" nonsense, which seems aimed at  helping the private > > schools), but here's a good word for phonics: different children have >

another job opening

2002-09-30 Thread Michael Perelman
To URPE Members and Friends From Chris Georges Send any questions to Chris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Japanese social science position Hamilton College invites applications for a tenure track position at the Assistant Professor level in Japanese economi

Re: Re: Advice Please

2002-09-30 Thread pms
All this is the kind of advice I want to follow and never get around to doing. What worked for me was switching to a smaller provider called hawk communications. I only switched cause it cost less than half of my old provider, Earthlink. Earthlink, which merged with my original provider Mindspr

job opening

2002-09-30 Thread Michael Perelman
o URPE Members and Friends From Chuck Barone Heterodox economists are urged to apply for this job. Any questions can be directed to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit our web page: http://www.dickinson.edu/departments/econ/ *

Re: Re: Re: Re: Singapore

2002-09-30 Thread Michael Perelman
Did the British distinguish between Malaysia and Singapore at the time or was Singapore nothing more than the entrepot for the region. Charles Jannuzi wrote: > > I somehow doubt that all the non-British 19th > century immigrants that were attracted there > brought mostly capital. They brought la

Re: Advice Please

2002-09-30 Thread ravi
Hari Kumar wrote: > Hi folks Of Pen: > Is anyone else being repetitively spammed by the most nasty > anti-Palestinian messages? Many with rather nasty cartoons? All > emanating from a variety of names - making it difficult to pin down who > the sender is before opening? > no, i havent faced this

Re: Re: Re: Re: Singapore

2002-09-30 Thread Ann Li
No disagreement here on the mercantile nature of the origins, however, the capital like the labor never really stays in Singapore thoughout its history, it goes to Malaya and elsewhere ( I of course recognize the political connection between the two until the mid-20th C), leaving the non-British p