Re: Whitehead and Marx

2002-12-11 Thread Chris Burford
At 10/12/02 18:33 -0500, you wrote: http://www.fordham.edu/philosophy/processphilosophy/papers/Pomeroy.htm My claim is this: that there exists a striking similarity between a Whiteheadian ontology and the ontological presuppositions that necessarily ground Marx's claims regarding the source

Re: Blowback

2002-12-11 Thread soula avramidis
I have been thinking about the horrendous cost of the U.S. support forIsrael. H. Kissinger in an answer to why so much financial support for Israel replied "it costs less than maintaining the sixth fleet in the Mediterranean" Does anybody believe that Israel would exist except for theNazis?

Re: Re: Whitehead and Marx

2002-12-11 Thread soula avramidis
what i find is that at any time one discovers ontology one discovers that marx has an ontological foundation and a metaphysic or that the price and the profit rate are something of a histrorical permutation from a subject/object relationship. Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10/12/02

Afghanistan: On Human Rights Day Women Say Little Has Changed

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
AFGHANISTAN: On International Human Rights Day women say little has changed ISLAMABAD, 10 Dec 2002 (IRIN) - We thought that that the fall of Taliban will herald new changes, but all the warlords and Jihadis have returned to power, Hammasa Maiwandi told IRIN on Tuesday in the Pakistani capital

Re: Blowback

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 1:24 PM -0600 12/10/02, Carrol Cox wrote: Doug Henwood wrote: If they're so stupid, gang, how come they've managed to run the world all these centuries? I think it's wisest to assume they know what they're doing. It's unwise to underestimate an enemy. They think they know what they are

Re: Re: Blowback

2002-12-11 Thread soula avramidis
We are on the lookout for weak links in the chain of capitalism and imperialism, so to speak.they are one and the same they are one and the same they are one and the same they are one and the same they are one and the same they are one and the same they are one and the same Yoshie Furuhashi

Racist Rage of the Caracas Elite

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Racist rage of the Caracas elite Venezuela's embattled president faces a Pinochet-style opposition Richard Gott Tuesday December 10, 2002 The Guardian Pilin Leon, a former Miss Venezuela, was busy judging the Miss World competition in London on Saturday when the oil tanker that bears her

Venezuela: People of Petroleum vs. PDVSA's Blue-Collar Workforce

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
* ...The conflict between Chavez and the opposition is at least partly over oil. Petroleos de Venezuela is a powerful giant on the world stage. It is ranked fifth among oil corporations in terms of revenue and is second largest overall when reserves, production and capacity are taken

Public Spending

2002-12-11 Thread Ebrahim Hassen
Title: decorum Hello, I am a Masters student doing work on public spending. The title of my dissertation is "Improving the efficacy and effectiveness of asset redistribution programmes in South Africa". I am doing a detailed case study of low-income housing. I am writing to enquire

Greg Palast, Venezuela and Argentina: A Tale of Two Coups

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Venezuela and Argentina: A Tale of Two Coups New Internationalist Magazine Sunday, July 7, 2002 by Greg Palast The big business-led coup in Venezuela failed, where international finance's coup in Argentina has succeeded. Greg Palast gives us the inside track on two very different power-grabs.

Re: Re: Blowback

2002-12-11 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, Carrol Cox writes, Viewed abstractly, from outside history, their strategy has been stupid for 500 years, and Massive retaliation for everything describes the crushing of rebellions in the english countryside in the 16th century, the long massacre of the 18th century

Marta Harnecker on Venezuela

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
December 1, 2002 Social movements are sectoral movements and require an instrument for articulation Manuel Alberto Ramy Progreso Weekly (Editor's Note: This interview was conducted before the Sunday victory in Ecuador by Lucio Gutierrez.) If I say she received her degree in psychology in

Re: Re: Re: Blowback

2002-12-11 Thread Carrol Cox
soula avramidis wrote: they are one and the same Yes, in the way I and my skin or I and my skeleton are both the same. One might say that imperialism is the mode of existence of capitalism. However one phrases the identity, it is still necessary to see that conceptually capitalism and

Re: Re: Whitehead and Marx

2002-12-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Whitehead concludes that nature is a structure of evolving processes. The reality is the process. I am not sure I want to know more, but that aspect at least seems to be compatible with dialectical materialism. Well nobody can be wrong about everything. I do not see the rebuilding of a

Re: Re: Re: Re: United Airlines and market socialism

2002-12-11 Thread Louis Proyect
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Throw out all the plans and kick the people in the ass so that we might live to see another day was Mr. Stalin's program of industrial development. Was this the wrong program for the times? Of course it was wrong. Socialism has to be based on science. When you throw

the fix is in? (II)

2002-12-11 Thread Devine, James
Title: the fix is in? (II) Today's Doonesbury cartoon (see http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/) suggests that the Bush administration's accusations that Iraq has a nuclear -- oops, I mean nukular -- weapons program are valid. This is despite that consensus among experts that even

Re: Re: sodexho and workers and colleges

2002-12-11 Thread e. ahmet tonak
United for Peace vs. ANSWER Can anyone clarify the relationship between these two organizations? Are they excluding each other as they compete with each other? Is there any other --in addition to being anti-stalinist-- political reason for developing two parallel anti-war

Free MERIP Publication: Why Another War? (2nd ed.)

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:39:08 -0500 From: MERIP Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Special MERIP Publication: Why Another War? (2nd ed.) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For immediate release December 11, 2002 Special MERIP Publication Why Another War? A

Re: sodexho and workers and colleges

2002-12-11 Thread Carrol Cox
e. ahmet tonak wrote: United for Peace vs. ANSWER Can anyone clarify the relationship between these two organizations? Are they excluding each other as they compete with each other? Is there any other --in addition to being anti-stalinist-- political reason for developing two parallel

Weak Links? Re: Blowback

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Title: Weak Links? Re: Blowback At 1:12 AM -0800 12/11/02, soula avramidis wrote: We are on the lookout for weak links in the chain of capitalism and imperialism, so to speak. they are one and the same By they you are referring to capitalism and imperialism, right? If so, I agree; perhaps,

Re: Re: Re: Whitehead and Marx

2002-12-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Ian Murray wrote: [T]he immensity of the world negatives the belief that any state of order can be so established that beyond it there can be no progress. This belief in a final order, popular in religious and philosophic thought, seems to be due to the prevalent fallacy that all types of

Re: Re: Re: Re: Whitehead and Marx

2002-12-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Carrol Cox wrote: But knee-jerk reactions need to be followed up with some reflection. And at least in Harvey's case invoking Whitehead Leibniz is clearly not such a instance of diluting or undercutting marxism. Any contemporary marxist who cannot learn from Harvey is in bad shape. Harvey's a

Re: Re: Whitehead and Marx

2002-12-11 Thread Michael Hoover
ah, the joys of the internet... Familiar things happen, and mankind does not bother about them. It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious --Alfred North Whitehead (1861-1947) Fundamental progress has to do with the reinterpretation of basic ideas. --Alfred

Re: Re: Re: Blowback

2002-12-11 Thread joanna bujes
At 02:06 PM 12/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: joanna bujes wrote: I assume all sorts of unimaginable consequences will flow out of the attempt to remake the Middle East. I wonder if anyone in power gives any thought whatsoever to long-term consequences. Nah. They're too stupid and too arrogant.

ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, Win Without War Re: sodexho and workers and colleges

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 12:55 PM -0500 12/11/02, Louis Proyect wrote: e. ahmet tonak wrote: United for Peace vs. ANSWER Can anyone clarify the relationship between these two organizations? Are they excluding each other as they compete with each other? Is there any other --in addition to being

Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, Win Without WarRe: sodexho and workers and colleges

2002-12-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: The celebrity group is part of a larger coalition called Win Without War that will officially begin on Wednesday. Backed by national religious and civic organizations, including the National Council of Churches, the N.A.A.C.P., the National Organization for Women and

Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, Win Without War Re: sodexho and workers and colleges

2002-12-11 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] United for Peace was initiated by Medea Benjamin of Global Exchange, who just ran for Senate on the Green Party ticket. It has the potential to be far broader than ANSWER since the latter is a wholly owned subsidiary of

PDVSA, Citgo, Venezuela

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Copyright 2002 Financial Times Information All rights reserved Global News Wire Copyright 2002 Business News Americas S.A Business News Americas December 11, 2002 LENGTH: 415 words HEADLINE: GOVT. DELIVERS 6MN LITERS OF PETROL TO STAVE OFF SHORTAGES - VENEZUELA BODY: (BNamericas.com) - Some six

Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, Win Without War Re: sodexho and workers and colleges

2002-12-11 Thread Carrol Cox
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Apparently, there are four coalitions now: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, _and_ Win Without War: There will probably be more before there are fewer. And I think already there are both individuals and groups that associate with more than one of these coalitions.

Re: Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, Win Without War

2002-12-11 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a case of one kind of sectarianism against another kind, I believe. == What about the anti-sectarian sect[s]? :-) Ian You mean in a good sense or bad sense? (I'm not sure if I

multiple anti-war groups

2002-12-11 Thread Devine, James
Title: multiple anti-war groups [was: RE: [PEN-L:33015] Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, Win Without War Re: sodexho and workers and colleges] Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Apparently, there are four coalitions now: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, _and_ Win Without War: Carrol writes:

Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, Win Without War

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 1:35 PM -0800 12/11/02, Ian Murray wrote: What about the anti-sectarian sect[s]? :-) Ian You mean in a good sense or bad sense? (I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by your term, though.) Aha, an equivocation! :-) I was using the term in the sense of

Re: multiple anti-war groups

2002-12-11 Thread Carrol Cox
Devine, James wrote: BTW, as Ian suggests, some of the worst sectarianism I've seen has been practiced by people who claim to be anti-sectarian, anti-Leninist, etc. Top-down (bureaucratic) practices are just as common among the democratic left as among the sectarians. There is a sort

Re: Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, Win Without War

2002-12-11 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] What does Sam Smith mean by the colloquial left? And you mean that anti-sectarian sects (your term) = the colloquial left (Smith's term)? I'm trying to understand what you are trying to say.

Venezuela's 'National Strike': Fabrica Cerrada - Fabrica Tomada

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
ZNet | Venezuela Venezuela's 'National Strike' by Justin Podur; ZNet; December 10, 2002 The 'general strike' called by the opposition in Venezuela is now on its eighth day. The strike is the fourth called by the opposition over the past year, including the failed coup attempt in April. The

RE: Re: multiple anti-war groups

2002-12-11 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:33020] Re: multiple anti-war groups Carrol writes: There is a sort of partial corrective for anti-sectarian sectarianism as well as the straightforward kind. Refrain from using the label of sectarian for anyone or any organization you disagree with. The charge of

Why Are the Coup Plotters So Impatient?

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
ZNet | Venezuela Why are the coup plotters so impatient? by Hans Dieterich; rebelion.org; December 09, 2002 [translated by narconews.com] The constitutional government of Hugo Chávez faces its fourth assault in eight months. The April 11th coup d'etat launched a chain of mob acts that were

Oil Falls as Venezuela Resumes Exports

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Oil Falls as Venezuela Resumes Exports Wed December 11, 2002 03:18 PM ET NEW YORK (Reuters) - Oil prices fell from six-week highs on Wednesday as No. 5 world supplier Venezuela exported its first crude since a general strike paralyzed oil shipments. Sharp gains in U.S. fuel inventories to feed

US-Chile fta

2002-12-11 Thread Ian Murray
December 11, 2002 U.S. and Chile Reach Agreement on Free Trade By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 2:14 p.m. ET WASHINGTON (AP) -- Chile and the United States reached an agreement Wednesday for a free trade accord that will lift tariffs on more than 85 percent of goods from both countries in the

Re: Re: Blowback

2002-12-11 Thread Eugene Coyle
Carrol, I was talking of blowback, not the overthrow of capitalism. Kenya, Bali, and ... wherever is next seems to me evidence of blowback. Gene Coyle Carrol Cox wrote: Eugene Coyle wrote: I say stupid in the following sense: The US has adopted the same strategy as has Israel -- massive

RE: Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, Win Without War Re: sodexho and workers and colleges

2002-12-11 Thread Max B. Sawicky
At the point where Bush concocts some kind of bs to justify the invasion, some high proportion of the Dems fold and Moveon crumbles. Let sanctions work is just an excuse to withhold support for war until the war starts. mbs Win Without War and MoveOn.Org appear to be composed of the same

Re: Re: Re: Blowback

2002-12-11 Thread Carrol Cox
Eugene Coyle wrote: Carrol, I was talking of blowback, not the overthrow of capitalism. Kenya, Bali, and ... wherever is next seems to me evidence of blowback. Gene Coyle Yeah -- I see. I'm thinking out loud in what follows. That makes my response a bit skewed, or irrelevant to your

Venezuela's Revolution Faces Capital Human Capital Strikes

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
A bit old, but it may still be useful. * _In These Times_ 9 November 2001 NEW WORLD ORDER But Venezuela's revolution faces many obstacles. by John Marshall and Christian Parenti From the 23rd-story offices of the Venezuelan Ministry of Planning, the slums can be seen stretching out

Re: Jacoby versus Chomsky

2002-12-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Russell Jacoby wrote: Thank you for your measured comments about my piece. I am pleased that the revolutionary anti-imperalistic masses have such courgeous and astute thinkers like yourself showing them the way. RJ No problem. Here are some other reactions from the net, where my post

USA brandishes nuclear weapons

2002-12-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Washington Post, Wednesday, December 11, 2002; Page A01 Preemptive Strikes Part Of U.S. Strategic Doctrine 'All Options' Open for Countering Unconventional Arms By Mike Allen and Barton Gellman A Bush administration strategy announced yesterday calls for the preemptive use of military and

Re: sodexho and workers and colleges

2002-12-11 Thread Louis Proyect
e. ahmet tonak wrote: We are in the process of starting a campaign against Sodexho (Simon's Rock College's dining hall sub-contractor which recently bought the previous sub-contractor Woods!!). Any information regarding the company and its labor practices is appreciated. Thanks. One of the

Trent Lott, not the first time

2002-12-11 Thread Louis Proyect
I N S T I T U T E F O R S O U T H E R N S T U D I E S FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 LOTT’S STATEMENT ONLY LATEST INSTANCE OF SENATOR'S SUPPORT FOR RACIST CAUSES *** Southern Institute says Lott’s recent praise for Strom Thurmond’s segregationist platform echoes

Black Radical Congress -- Dead or Alive?

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Is the Black Radical Congress dead? Or is it alive but unable to function as an organization? I was subscribed to the BRC-ANNOUNCE and BRC-NEWS listservs, but they stopped sending postings sometime in November, 2001. On the BRC website (@ http://www.blackradicalcongress.org/), no upcoming

Re: Trent Lott, not the first time

2002-12-11 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/11/02 18:23 PM I N S T I T U T E F O R S O U T H E R N S T U D I E S FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 LOTT'S STATEMENT ONLY LATEST INSTANCE OF SENATOR'S SUPPORT FOR RACIST CAUSES telling comment on state of us polity that such info has been around

Re: Re: Trent Lott, not the first time

2002-12-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Here are the exact words: The real story here is that in ultimately accommodating himself as gracefully to integration as he did, Strom Thurmond made it easier for others to follow. We wish we could say the same for Mr. Lott . -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State

Re: Re: Trent Lott, not the first time

2002-12-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Yesterday, the WSJ editorial said that Strom had progressed since 1948, and they hoped that Lott would also. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Robert Manning

2002-12-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Is Robert Manning here? Sorry to bother the list. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sao Paulo Forum: High Spirits of the Latin American Left

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
04 Dec 2002 22:05 Spirits high as Latam left cheers new heroes By Greg Brosnan ANTIGUA, Guatemala, Dec 4 (Reuters) - After decades mourning its martyrs, the Latin American left is cheering a handful of new heroes thanks to recent presidential election victories in Brazil and Ecuador. The

Enron

2002-12-11 Thread Ian Murray
[New York Times] December 12, 2002 Despite Denial, Enron Papers Show Big Profit on Price Bets By DAVID BARBOZA Even as Enron's top executives were insisting that the company did not engage in speculative trading, Enron was reaping the bulk of its profits during the California energy crisis by

Re: Weak Links? Re: Blowback

2002-12-11 Thread soula avramidis
my mistake i did not see the word weak when reading off screen. in fact when i saw the eye doctor two days ago he says there is nothing he can do about it. Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1:12 AM -0800 12/11/02, soula avramidis wrote: We are on the lookout for weak links in the

war impact question

2002-12-11 Thread soula avramidis
if you had to give a two-word answer to these questions about a possible war in Iraq, what would it be? Major impacts on the world economy? Major effects on intra regional trade in the middle east? Major effects on middle eaststates’ extra regional trade relations (mainly oil) Major social

sectarianism and opportunism

2002-12-11 Thread Chris Burford
Thoughtful definition on the Marxism Internet Archive (MIA), presumably the responsibility of the editors http://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/s/e.htm