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Dear friend,
Forgive my indignation if this message comes to you as
a surprise and if it might
Does anyone know what arguments in favor of Affirmative Action are
being presented to the Supreme Court?
I was wondering about this: I constantly hear that we can't have
Affirmative Action because it discriminates. So, I was wondering if
the solution was ever stated as just a very plain process
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--- Bill Lear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know what arguments in favor of
Affirmative Action are
being presented to the Supreme Court?
In broad outline, yes. The actual nriefs are probable
availsble at Findlaw.com, so you could look it up. In
1997 I published a paper in the Ohio
On Thursday, January 16, 2003 at 06:26:16 (-0800) andie nachgeborenen writes:
...
So, I
was wondering if
the solution was ever stated as just a very plain
process of
statistical adjustment.
The argument you state below has not been adopted by
any court that I know about. It would almost
Michael Perelman wrote:
Some of the anger against the H1-b comes from the practice of laying off
older programmers, who become unemployable.
i can understand a conservative making this incorrect leap of logic
(i.e., the blame rests not on the h-1b workers but on the corporations),
but a
Title: RE: [PEN-L:33890] Re: Affirmative Action case
If the Supes and their appointee in the White House decide that affirmative action is _verboten_ and thus _kaput_, does that abolish athletic scholarships and (gasp) College affirmative action for alumni children?
Does this information mean that ethnic hostility is receding? Could this
be the only place in the world where that is happening?
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Very interesting. Last year, Syngenta, a competitor issued a paper
warning that farmers could lose 17% of their land values.
http://www.syngentacropprotection-us.com/media/article.asp?article_id=216
as a result of this problem.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State
--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the Supes and their appointee in the White House
decide that affirmative
action is _verboten_ and thus _kaput_, does that
abolish athletic
scholarships and (gasp) College affirmative action
for alumni children?
No, of course it doesn't.
Hmm, thanks for the references. I wonder, though,
what really counts
as societal discrimination and what counts as
governmental? If
the government spends its resources on the
privileged and not on the
poor, isn't that discrimination?
Wealth/poverty isn't a reviewable basis of
Recall how vigorously Bush I pursued antitrust action against the colleges
for trying to give scholarships to deserving (non-athlete, not legacy)
students.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A native Arkansan, like so many others of his
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--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it's irony, but basic principles of ethics, if the
Supremes are to void AA
to advance racial and/or gender equality, then AA
should be abolished for
athletes and alumni children, too. . . .
Of course, the law doesn't reflect ethics but
instead
Title: RE: [PEN-L:33903] Law without morals (was Affirmative Action case)
I wrote that it's a basic principles of ethics, if the Supremes are to void AA [affirmative action] to advance racial and/or gender equality, then AA should be abolished for athletes and alumni children, too. . . . Of
As long as we have non-robotic judges, the
subjective moral visions of
judges will play a role.
Of course. As I know better than you!
But again, I wasn't talking
about that.
the legislature's one of the major reasons why the
balance of political and
economic power is reflected in
Title: RE: [PEN-L:33905] Re: RE: Law without morals (was Affirmative Action case )
I wrote:
As long as we have non-robotic judges, the
subjective moral visions of
judges will play a role.
JKS:
Of course. As I know better than you!
It's likely, but personal experience isn't always
FYI/Joanna
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Is the United
--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wrote:
As long as we have non-robotic judges, the
subjective moral visions of
judges will play a role.
JKS:
Of course. As I know better than you!
It's likely, but personal experience isn't always
better than theoretical
Results of the voting so far:
This week's question is
Do you believe there is a case for war against Iraq?
Yes
14%
No
86%
At 15/01/03 22:52 -0800, you wrote:
More than 50,000 in Northern Cyprus means more than 80,000,000 in
the US. This is some kind of a revolution I would say.
Best,
Sabri
++
I agree.
After waiting for decades you pinch yourself to believe it, but sometimes
there are qualitative
Devine, James wrote:
as a an ethicist friend of mine says, one of the strongest (and
easiest) moral cases one can make is by pointing to the contradiction
between moral theory and actual practice (i.e., hypocrisy), because
there's no need to develop basic moral principles (which some say
At 16/01/03 09:02 -0800, you wrote:
Very interesting. Last year, Syngenta, a competitor issued a paper
warning that farmers could lose 17% of their land values.
http://www.syngentacropprotection-us.com/media/article.asp?article_id=216
as a result of this problem.
Yes, remarkable further
Title: Morality Engels
I wrote:
as a an ethicist friend of mine says, one of the strongest (and
easiest) moral cases one can make is by pointing to the contradiction
between moral theory and actual practice (i.e., hypocrisy), because
there's no need to develop basic moral principles
Title: RE: [PEN-L:33908] Law without morals
I wrote:
My view is that we shouldn't rely on the current
legal system or the
politicians -- but instead should figure out how to
change the balance of
power (favoring the good guys of course).
JKS writesYes, why not both?
maybe we should
In a message dated 1/16/03 3:28:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
as a an ethicist friend of mine says, one of the
strongest (and easiest)
moral cases one can make is by pointing to the
contradiction between moral
theory and actual practice (i.e., hypocrisy),
because there's
Devine, James wrote:
I generally agree with the above, except for the bit about the
inevitable collapse of the capitalist mode of production which is
daily taking place before our eyes to an ever growing degree
which seems to be based in Marx's optimism rather than in
scientific
I'm curious what the technical name for this sort of barrier to
economic efficiency is. Has anyone ever cataloged this sort of
thing? I'd be very interested if so ...
Bill
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By Dawn C. Chmielewski
Mercury News
Your printer and ink
- Original Message -
From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I agree that collapse is not inevitable, but it also seems to me that
_some_ part of the claim may be upheld. The collapse of capitalism is
_necessitated_ by its own internal dynamic -- but that doesn't mean
it's
going to
Hyman Minsky used to say there were 57 varieties of capitalism.
I think it is getting to the point where more people have said Minsky
said it than he actually said it himself. He always said it was 57
pickles. I thought it was ketchup. In any case, I always wondered, are
there really so many
maybe we should use the legal system (e.g., to
defend anti-war demonstrators
or suspect Arabs persecuted by the Bushmasters)
but we can't _rely_ on it
or trust it.
I agree.
But I wasn't advocating the taking of moral stands
by individual judges.
him:
You shouldn't. Advocate it
Title: RE: [PEN-L:33916] Re: Morality Engels
I wrote:
I generally agree with the above [quote from Engels], except
for the bit about the
inevitable collapse of the capitalist mode of production which is
daily taking place before our eyes to an ever growing degree
which seems to be
Making Social Movements: The British Marxist Historians and the Study
of Social Movements, June 26-28, 2002, Edge Hill College of Higher
Education, England,
http://www.edgehill.ac.uk/research/smg/AJconfTimetable.htm
Colin Barker (Manchester Metropolitan University)
A Modern Moral Economy:
Here is a link to the article on interlocking directorates that has been
indexed in several places recently (including ATTAC). The title is "The
Network Topography of the American Corporate Elite, 1982-2001" by Gerald
Davis, Mina Yoo and Wayne Baker.
Title: RE: [PEN-L:33920] Re: RE: Law without morals
I wrote:
I reject this kind of appeal to authority.
JKS writes: What appeal to authority? What authority? I was just
giving you advice.
_your_ authority, since you didn't justify the advice in any way. It was your Word: therefore I
Hyman Minsky used to say there were 57 varieties of capitalism.
I think it is getting to the point where more people have said Minsky
said it than he actually said it himself. He always said it was 57
pickles. I thought it was ketchup. In any case, I always wondered, are
there really so many
US Faces WTO Pressure to Repeal Trade Measure
Thu January 16, 2003 04:43 PM ET
By Doug Palmer
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States faced pressure on Thursday from
the World Trade Organization to repeal a controversial trade protection
program that has paid out more than $500 million to
Hi Paul,
Thanks again for your comments. A couple of responses below.
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Paul_A wrote:
Fred,
This has been very useful. Thanks for the stimulating posts. The point
about debt and financial fragility really must be kept as a prime issue.
You asked for reactions
me: _Why_ is it
verboten for judges to
take moral stands?
JKS: Because in a society that claims to be
democratic,
it's not their job. They're supposed to interpret
the
law. The moral judgments are made by the
legislators.
it claims to be democratic, but it's a democracy
- Original Message -
From: andie nachgeborenen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So that makes it OK for unelected judges (or judges
who are elected to interpret the law) to impose their
personal prejudices?
==
What makes this judge bipolar is that he has a consistent tendency
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