After hearing Carrol's story and reminded of Mark Jones, I don't
think my future looks that bright.
Not a pipe smoker though, just cigarettes. Given my family
history, most likely I will pass away because of lung cancer.
Who says human beings are rational?
What was that rationality of the
Yea , I smoked a pipe for many yeares and enjoyed it -- until I became a
victim of ashma and quit smoking. Now I find smoke of any sort a
terrible hazard. More so for my wife for whom smoke of any sort
triggers heart fibrilations that are potentially fatal. I think the
tobacco companies
Sabri, yer gonna out live us all. Some Turkish hills thing. Worry not.
I don't smoke... But I think yer a bit harsh on our dyslexic lawyer
friend.
You wrote:
Western rationality requires, or leads to, Justins of the world.
Adults have the right to kill themselves, in any way they wish. As long
JKS writes:I'd be proud to defend the First
Amendment ina NAzi case too.
if the gov't cracks down on the Nazis, they crack down on
the Left, too, most often in a bigger way. A first
amendment defense of the Nazis is indirectly
defending the Left.
Elementary, my dear Mr. Devine. :)
You know, FDR
Actually, no. Roosevelt tried to pack the court, and
failed. One of the former bad guy justices switched
his view and started supporting the New Deal. The
Roosevelt era court mainly supported expanded govt
power to regulate business, not primarily enhanced
free speech and civil rights. Its most
But I stand with Justin on one thing: YOU put the
smoke to yer mouth.
YOU inhale.
What I do for the tobacco compnaies is antitrust work,
not product liability defense. Though the firm does do
PL defense, and I would do it for tobacco compnaies if
asked.
I'm a former pipe smoker myself . . .
Well... yes and no.
Yes, it was Warren's court, and Eisenhower was disappointed with his
two appointments.
But, no, Warren couldn't have done anything without Black and Douglas.
And Douglas was a major source of this extreme free speech-ism. (Mind
you, I wasn't there.)
Ken.
--
I used to
From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The New York Times
May 15, 1998, Friday, Late Edition - Final
The Indispensable I.M.F.
By Paul Krugman, CAMBRIDGE, Mass.; Paul Krugman is a professor of
economics at M.I.T.
... the International Monetary Fund is all that we have, and it is a lot
better than
Please forward widely!
IS ANTI-ZIONISM ANTI-SEMITIC?
A Panel on CounterPunch's controversial new book:
THE POLITICS OF ANTI-SEMITISM.
ALEXANDER COCKBURN - CounterPunch Editor
LENNI BRENNER - Editor, 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
ALISA KLEIN - Anti-Zionist veteran of the
Carl, I smoked a pipe for several decades before quitting -- and I would
be afraid to add up how many thousands of dollars (not covered by
insurance) I have spent on repairing (partly) the damage it did to my
teeth. Right now, I've got a large gap in the front of my mouth (upper)
which has cost me
No and yes. Douglas and Black were important advocates
of free speech, but the protections for political
speech we have were not won till the Warren Court era.
The first major victory was Yates v. US (1957),
saetting aside the Smith Act convictions of the lower
echelon Communist leaders on grounds
From: andie nachgeborenen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... Roosevelt tried to pack the court, and
failed. One of the former bad guy justices switched
his view and started supporting the New Deal
Or as was said at the time: A switch in time saves nine.
Carl
In the American involvement in the Vietnam war from 1964-1975, it is
generally accepted that of the American military personnel deployed, about
58,200 died, another 153,000 casualties were hospitalized with injuries, and
of those, about 100,000 were permanently disabled or disfigured. The number
A Panel on CounterPunch's controversial new book:
THE POLITICS OF ANTI-SEMITISM.
I think it is really great that Counterpunch is organising this discussion.
That's exactly what is needed.
Jurriaan
I find Harrison's MARXIAN ECONOMICS FOR SOCIALISTS (Pluto) to be very good in terms of
a clear presentation. By not hiding political implications, Harrison is in many ways
less ideological than those who don't deal with those issues.
Charlie Andrews' FROM CAPITALISM TO EQUALITY is also very
JKS writes:I'd be proud to defend the First
Amendment ina NAzi case too.
I wrote:
if the gov't cracks down on the Nazis, they crack down on
the Left, too, most often in a bigger way. A first
amendment defense of the Nazis is indirectly
defending the Left.
From: Kenneth Campbell
Elementary, my
with second-hand smoke, SOMEONE ELSE puts the smoke in your mouth and nose, while YOU
have little choice but to inhale.
Jim
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From: andie nachgeborenen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 11/1/2003 3:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Of course, there are a lot of people who reject COUNTERPUNCH because it's anti-Zionist
and they see this as involving anti-Semitism. (Of course, I don't respect such folks.)
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Jurriaan Bendien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat
It's Houghton-Mifflin (sp?), not prentice-hall. -- Jim
i wrote:
as for mainstream economics, the Goodwin, Nelson, Ackerman, and Weisskopf book
MICROECONOMICS IN CONTEXT (prentice-hall, preliminary edition).
Jim
Well most people don't think much, they just make thought associations.
Personally I believe that being anti-Zionist is being pro-semite, and being
Zionist is anti-semite, insofar as these terms are at all meaningful. Being
anti-Zionist facilitates human lives, because it allows us to view Jews
My favorite books on Marxist economics:
1. Paul Sweezy, The Theory of Capitalist Development
-- a wonderfully lucid exposition of Marx's views.
2. Harry Braverman, Labor and Monopoly Capitalism.
Still the best account of the exploitation of labor in
capitalism.
3. Ernest Mandel, Marxian
I wasn't talking about second hand smoke... That's another topic.
There are laws against smoking in public places. Nothing wrong with those.
Ken.
with second-hand smoke, SOMEONE ELSE puts the smoke in your
mouth and nose, while YOU have little choice but to inhale.
Jim
-Original
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
In the American involvement in the Vietnam war from 1964-1975, it is
generally accepted that of the American military personnel deployed, about
58,200 died, another 153,000 casualties were hospitalized with injuries, and
of those, about 100,000 were permanently disabled or
Why is it that we generate so much more interest discussing personalities
rather than ideas? Why when a person takes a contrary postion, do we --
not just on this list -- find a need to denounce the person in general.
I just heard Studs Turkel -- tape delay -- interviewd on KPFA discussing
Dan
Hey Justin
I will take a re-peek at the Dennis case. But I believe Black (and
Douglas) were strongly against it. I believe Rutledge and Murphy were
replaced by conservative Democrats. And Frankfurter and Jackson were a
kind of reverse of what Eisenhower felt about Warren and Brennan.
I guess
Despite Marc Rich, Clinton was pretty good in his last few minutes of
office. So was Gray Davis. I cringe to think what Bush might dare in his
last few minutes.
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 02:02:31PM +, Carl Remick wrote:
[A current piece by Krugman in the NY Review of Books offers the
War casualty statistics only give an approximate indication of the scale of
deaths and injuries, and can really do no more. An elementary principle of
measurement taught in Statistics 101 is that in order to measure a quantity
of objects in a valid way or assign values to them, the objects must
Why is it that we generate so much more interest discussing personalities
rather than ideas?
If you don't know that, why are you a socialist ?
J.
Being a lawyer, I do enjoy this sort of thing. Your
facts are right. Black (especially) and Douglas were
important forerunners, but compatively isolated on
liberties questions. I don't think you dispute that.
ACtually it was sort of like Rehnquist's early days on
the Burger Courtr,w hich was
I killed many of them. Because that was my speciality. I knew several
different kinds of weapons, I was also a demolitions expert, OK ? I also
dealt with the flamethrower. I burned up bodies so that they were crispy
critters. (...) in my way of thinking, everything is scripted in life and
it's
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(this article describes how the forces of imperialism literally poison
people to death, which over time may make official war casualty rates look
like chickenfeed - and I am not talking tobacco. The poisoning would also
affect American and British soldiers stationed in Iraq - JB).
(...) American
Politics, philosophy and society
To hell and Baku
The vast scale and bloody price of the rush for oil in the Caspian has
been little noticed. Now Lutz Klevermann's powerful new study, The New
Great Game, reveals all
Misha Glenny
Sunday November 2, 2003
The Observer
It has been an encouraging
After several unsuccessful stabs at starting Marx's Capital, I have
finally made it through a chapter or two. I already have a problem
though, which is perhaps due to the age of the material.
Towards the end of Chapter 1, Marx makes it pretty clear that gold is a
commodity just like any other
$4 trillion swindle foiled by spelling error
PAUL VALLELY (Independent)
LONDON - Every Monday morning 69-year-old Graham Halksworth would bid
farewell to his wife and leave his home at the top end of the little town of
Mossley, high on the shoulder of the Pennines. Smartly dressed and carrying
a
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anybody suggest a non-ideological, as well as an
ideoligcally Marxist primary economics text for me?
Benjamin
**
Hi Benjamin,
Go to the source. Marx's speech now titled, Value,
Price and Profit is my favourite introductory piece.
From there, go to
02.11.2003
JERUSALEM - Israeli forces will soon be able to carry out demolition of
Palestinian buildings by remote control, an Israeli high-tech concern said.
Palestinians and human rights groups, including Amnesty International,
condemn demolitions as collective punishment that has made
02.11.2003 NEW YORK - The UN General Assembly has approved the world's first
anti-corruption treaty that requires nations to return stolen assets to
countries from which they were pillaged. The treaty, two years in the
drafting, will enter into force 90 days after 30 governments have ratified
it.
Lack the time to go into the subject just now, but try:
http://www.palgrave-usa.com/catalogue/index.asp?isbn=0312211643
Editor's note: BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast is also the author of
the recent bestseller The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, a look at the
American political process. He is also one of two journalists who obtained a
document from the administration of US President George Bush titled Moving
One of the most common accusations levelled against the US-led occupation is
that it was simply paving the way for a subsequent corporate invasion.
Monolithic US companies with strong ties to the administration of US
President George Bush have been handed huge contracts to repair the damage
- Original Message -
From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
02.11.2003 NEW YORK - The UN General Assembly has approved the world's
first
anti-corruption treaty that requires nations to return stolen assets to
countries from which they were pillaged. The treaty, two years in the
If this is not genocide, I don't know what is.
Joanna
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
(this article describes how the forces of imperialism literally poison
people to death, which over time may make official war casualty rates look
like chickenfeed - and I am not talking tobacco. The poisoning would
--- Kenneth Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should definitely support your local loon Nazi's
right to smoke
tobacco.
(tobacco doused in lots of pesticide)
Mike B)
=
*
the Council Republic is not the culmination of
Ian,
I think of it in the same way as intellectual property rights, about which I
have written already. IPR required an objective theory of property, and in
fact a true theory of capitalism as we know it. But if there is some facet
or relation of capitalism which you cannot admit in your theory,
In a message dated 11/1/03 4:51:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So is this Marx's theory? It would seem a tenet of Marxian thought thatfiat money is worthless (or at least that it would be implied that it isbacked by gold or some other commodity in an emergency, if not in
The new Iraqi dinar is rising against the US dollar, the old banknotes being
changed to new bills printed in England, by a consortium led by UK-based
banknote printer De La Rue. The new currency was was unveiled in Baghdad on
October 4, 2003 and introduced on October 15, and Iraqis have three
Does anyone on the list know if JR read John Commons Legal Foundations of
Capitalism? I'm re-reading Morton Horwitz' The Transformation of
American Law: 1870-1960 and seeing intimations of the CC controversy in
US court cases from the 20's and am wondering if I'm
hallucinating
- Original Message -
From: Lance Murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After several unsuccessful stabs at starting Marx's Capital, I have
finally made it through a chapter or two. I already have a problem
though, which is perhaps due to the age of the material.
Towards the end of Chapter 1,
Microsoft Hearing Could Conclude the Case
Appeals Judges to Consider Challenges to Antitrust Accord
By Jonathan Krim
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, November 1, 2003; Page E01
For Microsoft Corp., an unusual U.S. appeals court hearing next week could
bring the most ignominious chapter in
I wrote:
They hope that they will
get sex for nothing, and they hope that for the rest people will notice,
and
they will say that according to the contract, employer is entitled to the
full labour-power of the employee, i.e. all potential and observable
behaviours.
That should be for the
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