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Why can't we say that Eisner is a capitalist, whether or not he works?
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Yoshie
Definitions of capitalist on the Web:
a conservative advocate of capitalism
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn
a person who invests capital in a business (especially a
of course, back when they ran communist countries, they tried to make sure that
no-one else _could_ govern unless they'd already proved their loyalty...
Jim D.
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I have not participated in this thread very much. I think that the problem may be
that some much of our political debate revolves around current trends, such as
whether this new yuppie class will reject the right, or around some immediate event,
such as the election.
I've just begun a new book,
Michael Perelman wrote:
The ascent of the right depended upon a (hard capitalist or cultural
conservative)
vision of society, a long-term perspective, and lots of money. If we had
our own
vision and a long-term perspective, we could compensate for our lack of
money. The
right was able to hold
I don't know much about Eastern Europe, but it seems to me that many of the rising
class of capitalists (and capitalist politicians) there also were entrepreneurs in
the illegal markets. I would guess that in Poland, some of them were corrupt unionists
from Solidarnosc.
Jim Devine
Agreed.
Joanna
dmschanoes wrote:
Really? I don't think so. I think it has nothing at all to do with
experience and/or capability, and everything to do with connections and
representing specific class interests. Revolutions, and reactions, have
little enough trouble creating leaders without
joanna bujes wrote:
Agreed.
Joanna
dmschanoes wrote:
Really? I don't think so. I think it has nothing at all to do with
experience and/or capability, and everything to do with connections and
representing specific class interests.
This is too simple. Not _all_ the people with
CC writes:Most of them [member of the rulign class] are pretty damn competent, though
it's because of their connections that they get to exercise that competence.
True. The power elite (the organized body of the dominant fraction of the ruling class
and its political and military helpers)
It's not only that. It's this idea that everybody with connections in the ruling group
is utterly cynical. My impression from dealing with former members of the Soviet
nomenklatura is that they were completely convinced that they were doing the right
thing for the country (and getting something
Devine, James wrote:
Even so, we have to recognize that even the most competent power elite can fall for
the trap of believing its own propaganda. This opens the way for being replaced by a
different ruling-class power elite -- or for a fundamental shift in class relations.
There is also
I agree with Lou that the Nation attacks on the left were despicable. I don't
believe, however, that the appropriate response is to demonize the Nation. I think
that we can be critical, but to treat them as enemies is a mistake.
The Nation is not just the people who write for the magazine, but
Michael Perelman wrote:
I agree with Lou that the Nation attacks on the left were despicable. I don't
believe, however, that the appropriate response is to demonize the Nation.
Under Katrina vanden Heuvel, The Nation has opposed every U.S. war.
Doug
I canceled at the time of the Pacifica crisis. I guess I agree with what I read
there much of the time, but I find the disagreements to be particularly painful.
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 03:33:49PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote:
Michael Perelman wrote:
I agree with Lou that the Nation attacks on
Carrol Cox wrote:
Most of them (unfortunately for us) are pretty damn competent,
thoughit's because of their connections that they get to exercise that
competence.
If this is the case, I have not seen it in thirty years in ANY place I
have worked. What I have seen is that the grunts do the work
The NATION is okay, or by another measure, much better than the vast majority of the
US press that gets general circulation. (Gee it would be nice if pen-l-type ideas got
so much hearing!) It presents a variety of different view-points, some of which are
wrong (in my estimation). Its factual
I don't think anyone has ever said that someone is a "shit" for publishing
in the Nation or implied such a thing. The Nation has seen a number of
changes in its general outlook. I think it was much more to the left under
Carey McWilliamsand even Navasky than it is now. But it is what it is
MICHAEL YATES wrote:
I bitched to the editor once but got no response.
The editor has no control over book reviews. Bitch to the literary
editor, Adam Shatz.
Doug
It was a more general complaint, and I felt that having published in the
magazine, contributed to it, and subscribed for 25 years, I might get a note
from the exalted editor. Previous editors were courteous enough to
respond, much as I respond to letters we get at Monthly Review.
Itdoesn't
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
Why can't we say that Eisner is a capitalist, whether or not he works?
We can, and I would (and do). Why do you think otherwise?
Doug
I asked because you said, by way of example, Even Michael Eisner is
a worker, at least for a little while longer. A good number of
Sabri Oncu wrote:
Those in the upper management are there not because
they are more competent
No one said anything about more competent. I myself am suspicious of
almost all comparative judgments of competence, whether we are talking
about the CEOs of the Fortune 500, the drivers in the
Carrol,
Of course it, the notion that all those with connections are leaders, is too
simple. It's also something nobody has argued, logically, morally,
empirically. Your version is that somebody, me I guess, argued ALL A
(those with connections) ARE B (leaders), and then proceed to refute
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/04 6:13 PM
I have it on good authority that Peter Camejo actually doesn't
intend to run for president -- he (probably along with several other
candidates currently running in the Green primaries) is a
placeholder for Ralph Nader.
The Green Party needs to run a
Contrarian Chronicles (from CNBC)
Don't take mortgage advice from Alan Greenspan
The Fed boss says homeowners should switch to adjustable-rate loans and save the
difference. His record is full of dangerous moments like this when hes been way,
way off.
By Bill Fleckenstein
Last week, Alan
March 6, 2004
Hey PEN-L:
The Marxist School of Sacramento www.marxistschool.org is seeking speakers
for this fall. Please contact me off-list for more information. Thank you.
Solidarity,
Seth Sandronsky
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Carrol:
No one said anything about more competent. I
myself am suspicious of almost all comparative
judgments of competence, ...
You are right! Yours was not a comparative statement.
It was my mistake. You said most of them ... are
pretty damn competent.
I am sure there are a few among them
Eubulides wrote:
But some economists point to those same federal forecasts to poke holes in
the argument that the key to job creation is more sophisticated education
and knowledge. Yes, the greatest increase is expected to be for registered
nurses (an increase of 623,000 jobs) and college and
Anybody know which currencies he invested in? Some other article said he
was out of $$ and into five other currencies
Joanna
Eubulides wrote:
Buffett: Bush Tax Cuts Favor Corporations, Wealthy
By Joe Ruff
Associated Press Writer
Saturday, March 6, 2004; 3:36 PM
OMAHA, Neb. -- Billionaire
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