Re: Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader

Right before the 2000 election, I went to hear Nader speak at the Kaiser auditorium in Oakland. The convention hall was packed with folks; I'd say most of them under 40. There were roughly 5,000 people. Cornell West introduced, Patty Smith sang (beautifully), and Nader spoke for over an hour. He sp

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Ian writes: >Meanwhile, there are yet other differences today's would be revolutionaries have to deal with: a soft cage of computer surveillance that grows ever more elaborate with each passing week; massive stockpiles of nuclear and bio-chem weaponry alongside ever more effective non-lethal forms

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

ian wrote: >But, but it is the non-defeasible self-determined privilege of some Marxists to have incorrigible ascriptive knowledge of the mental content and self-description of other Marxists and non-Marxists and thus the right to assert that they must suffer from bad faith, erroneous self-descript

Re: Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader

I've never heard Nader speak, so I don't know if he's boring or not. But what was all that I heard in 2000 about large groups of college-age kids being excited by Nader? inquiring minds want to know. Jim D. -Original Message- From: Michael Hoover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: the future of social security/medicare

you're welcome. But I think it's good for everyone to keep the number of these "thank you" or "right on!" type e-mails to a minimum. There are too many pen-l missives already. And what with all the spam and virus-driven e-mail, my box is flooded. Jim D. -Original Message-

WTO: the soda war

[I've filed for intellectual property protection on the subject line, so don't get any ideas!] U.S. Files WTO Case Over Soft Drinks Wednesday March 17, 2004 4:16 AM By IRA DREYFUSS Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - The United States on Tuesday accused Mexico of violating world trade rule

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

- Original Message - From: "andie nachgeborenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, yes, who was it who said that before they happen revolutions seem impossible, afterwards they seem inevitable. The fall of Communism was like that too. Nonetheless there are certain obvious differences between 191

"New Left" and union decline (was: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference)

Yoshie said: > I don't see any lack of willingness to examine struggles against > white supremacy, sexism, etc. in terms of their relationship to the > class struggle, and vice versa, among leftists who have some respect > for the socialist and other radical left-wing traditions. Whether or > not

undercover capitalism

[another iteration of the corporation as externality machine..] Undercover capitalism Paul Foot Wednesday March 17, 2004 The Guardian The dynamic genius of private enterprise capitalism was on display in the House of Commons on Monday last week, though surprisingly no one mentioned it. Unde

Re: Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 10:20 PM >>> geez, nader could draw 2 activists and he'd top what i'd draw, but do activists really need to hear him, seems to me that non-activists need to hear him (i'd rather they heard folks mentioned above, and you as well)... <> above should have read:

Re: Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 2:02 PM >>> Even aside from the media question, it's no use denying that name recognition matters in national politics, even to activists on the left. For instance, this is what Doug had to say about Jonathan Farley, a Green Party leader in Texas: "I've come across v

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Yes, yes, who was it who said that before they happen revolutions seem impossible, afterwards they seem inevitable. The fall of Communism was like that too. Nonetheless there are certain obvious differences between 1917 and now, like the existence of mass working class radical movements of the lef

Re: corporations/More Side Issue

- Original Message - From: "Charles Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How do you avoid touching during sex ? Must be quite a trick. Charles === Remember the condom scene in "The Naked Gun"? Ian Response Jim C: Or, there are those phone numbers for phone sex, plus new inno

WMD may be found soon...

U.S. Unloading WMD in Iraq http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=3/13/2004&Cat=4&Num=011 TEHRAN (Mehr News Agency) ­ Over the past few days, in the wake of the bombings in Karbala and the ideological disputes that de

Re: the future of social security/medicare

The main danger to SS is that they want to loot it. It's such a nice pile of $$; why should the worker yahoos get it? In fact, they've been looting it for years. Joanna Devine, James wrote: the main danger to Social Security is not demographic. It's people like Greenspan and Bush. As Doug discov

Re: corporations/More Side Issue

- Original Message - From: "Charles Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How do you avoid touching during sex ? Must be quite a trick. Charles === Remember the condom scene in "The Naked Gun"? Ian

The Moon

Title: Message Subject: The moon   The moon   Early Warning   When NASA was preparing for the Apollo Project, it took the astronauts to a Navajo reservation in Arizona for training.  One day, a Navajo elder and his son came across the space crew walking among the rocks. The elder, w

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

- Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yoshie, Doug is correct that "fake questions" implies that he is not communicating in good faith. = But, but it is the non-defeasible self-determined privilege of some Marxists to have incorrigible a

Sacramento: Community college students march to protest planned fee hikes

Hey PEN-L: I think the students' demo against fee increases was the largest protest at the state Capitol since the anti-war rallies last spring. Seth Sandronsky Community college students march to protest planned fee hikes By Lesli A. Maxwell -- Bee Staff Writer Published 3:46 p.m. PST Monday, Ma

Re: the future of social security/medicare

Thanks for providing the article James. I agree with your assessment 100%. Best, Mike B) = ...the safest course is to do nothing against one's conscience. With this secret, we can enjoy life and have no fear from death. Vol

Ludd

I came across this gem by chance: http://www.themodernword.com/pynchon/pynchon_essays_luddite.html

Re: Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism

I think that this thread has gone on enough. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism

In a message dated 3/16/2004 4:35:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, so now there are going to be bosses. The question raised however is:how do they become bosses, by what process? How do they establish theirleadership ?To explicate the problem simply, let's just take yo

Re: Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism

Peter, Thanks for your comment, which is encouraging. I've never really had any despair about political prospects or the lack of them. I don't care about that, it's none of my concern. For most of the 1980s and some years in the 1990s I was involved in various groups and campaigns on and off. But

Re: talk

I didn't have that result. It (http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine/talks/SMC03-16-04.htm) worked for me, using both Netscape and IE. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMA

Re: the future of social security/medicare

the main danger to Social Security is not demographic. It's people like Greenspan and Bush. As Doug discovered years ago, the Trustees of the SS are low-balling estimates future economic growth, making the situation look much more dire than it is. Jim Devine [EMAIL PRO

Re: talk

Jim: Clicking on your talk, I "get file not found." Do you know what happened? Joel Blau Original Message: - From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:09:29 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: talk To see the notes of a talk I just gave to the Progressiv

Re: Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism

There are going > to be "bosses." Leadership or being boss means you have accepted - one way or > another, responsibility to do something. Okay, so now there are going to be bosses. The question raised however is: how do they become bosses, by what process ? How do they establish their leadership

Re: the future of social security/medicare

The social security "crisis" is *not* much inflated--it is pure fiction. The "Trust Fund"--containing only US Gov't bonds--is sufficient to pay all obligations for well over 50 years. The scarecrow is the "threat" that sometime before then, current social security/medicare receipts will fall below

talk

To see the notes of a talk I just gave to the Progressive Alliance at Santa Monica College, see http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine/talks/SMC03-16-04.htm. Thanks to Doug Henwood, who found an (obvious!) error in my calculation of the profit rate in my first graph. Jim Devi

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Yeah, I know. This wouldn't be an individual project -- more like a peace corps of the left. j. andie nachgeborenen wrote: I tried that, lost my job, now I am a lawyer. --- joanna bujes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >> Suppose that you are really interested in the subject

Re: Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism

In a message dated 3/16/2004 10:15:20 AM Central Standard Time, lnp3 @PANIX.COM writes: Jurriaan wrote: >The very term ""recruiting" is problematic, because this suggests >that people are being conscripted into a military service under a Marx >commander, a Marxist boss. And this is one of the fact

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

about two > months before the Russian revolution Lenin apparently wrote to Krupskaya > and said that they were not being able to see any socialist revolution > in their lifetime! That's true as far as I know. Roman Rosdolsky actually published a really interesting piece on this topic, about the r

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

One anecdote from a recent--about 3 weeks ago-- SOCIALIST CONFERENCE in Turkey, organized by a socialist party and participated in by same characters, Panitch, Dumenil, MacEwan, Filho, etc.: on the topic of the Turkish working class, reformist character of certain anti-neoliberalist economic polic

Re: Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism

Jurriaan Bendien wrote: "you have to affirm the validity of what people are already doing, and demonstrate how they could work together more effectively, in a way that is really beneficial to them, as well as having a real political effect." I've been following this thread on RS, noting the despa

The ABC of sectarianism

Since my time as Education student, I have frequently pondered the phenomenon of sectarianism. Here's my thoughts, for the record: 1. ORIGINS Sectarianism refers to mistaken and stunted attitudes to politics, real social movements and human relations. The point of departure of sectarians is basic

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Suppose that you are really interested in the subject of revolutionary socialism. What questions about it do you think would be worth asking in the United States today, when no one -- the least of all, revolutionary socialists -- envisions any revolution happening today or

embedded journalists

Title: embedded journalists U.S. Videos, for TV News, Come Under Scrutiny     By Robert Pear     The New York Times     Monday 15 March 2004 WASHINGTON, March 14 - Federal investigators are scrutinizing television segments in which the Bush administration paid people to pose as journalists

Re: the future of social security/medicare

The social security "crisis" is much inflated. As with any social inusrance system, the ratio of workers to retirees flattens as the system matures. But talk of a crisis is merely a wedge to open some political space for privatization, a scheme that would speed, rather than delay, the day of reckon

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

I tried that, lost my job, now I am a lawyer. --- joanna bujes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > > >> Suppose that you are really interested in the > subject of > > > > revolutionary socialism. What questions about it > do you think would > > be worth asking in the Unite

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Grant wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by the reluctance of "the left in developed countries to engage in the class struggle at the level of relations of production." I mean the willingness to take matters of identity politics (for want of a better term) at face value, rather than examining their

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Michael Dawson said: > How does Sweeney's failure to change the AFL-CIO have anything to do with > New Left theorizing, however flawed that may be? In order to save itself > from the grave it's backing into, labor needs to sever its ties to existing > political parties and radically overhaul its

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Grant on union decline: > Similar trends abound in the developing world. I think this tells a lot > about the failure of social democracy/labourism/reformism on both the > industrial and political fronts, specifically the theoretical/strategic > bankruptcy of the mainstream left in the late 60s an

the future of social security/medicare

andie nachgeborenen wrote: >I do not expect to have > Social Security or Medicare, for example. > what did you folks think of kuttner's piece in business week (march 2004): if you have a BW online id (i do not): http://www.businessweek.com/premium/content/04_11/b3874042_mz007.htm?se=1 essentiall

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Yoshie said: > I'm not sure what you mean by the reluctance of "the left in > developed countries to engage in the class struggle at the level of > relations of production." I mean the willingness to take matters of identity politics (for want of a better term) at face value, rather than examinin

Re: Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 06:48AM >>> "Over the last eight years, Nader has done more for the Green Party than anybody else," said Howard Hawkins, a Green Party organizer from Syracuse, N.Y. "We should draft him and have a candidate who can be in the national debates" with Bush and the expect

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

> Doug writes: >The idea of revolution in the U.S. or > any of its imperial peers seems like the > stuff of a drug-induced reverie right now.< Yes, it's an individual prproletarian'sipipedreamt the moment. Still, the fact is that workers have erupted with revolution on their minds at various time

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Grant wrote: I'd say that developing new forms of union organization (involving workers themselves and broader communities than the immediate workplace), changing U.S. labor law, raising the minimum wage, agitating for the basics of a civilized welfare state, reducing the role of shareholders and

Re: Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 06:48AM >>> "Over the last eight years, Nader has done more for the Green Party than anybody else," said Howard Hawkins, a Green Party organizer from Syracuse, N.Y. "We should draft him and have a candidate who can be in the national debates" with Bush and the expecte

Re: RS

Marvin wrote: > I think the relevance of the classical Marxists, for myself > at least, lies > in their analytical power, which is immense, rather than > their predictive > power, which turned out to be negligible. That’s to be > expected since it is > a lot easier to accurately interpret curren

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Grant Lee wrote: The recent reluctance of the left in developed countries to engage in the class struggle at the level of relations of production, preferring instead to obsess about double-edged issues like imperialism etc., is a constant source of bemusement to me. The New York Times October 6, 19

more proud to be American

An article from the Christian Peacemaker Teams' newsletter, "Signs of the Times" http://.www.cpt.org Iraq: Retribution - The Order of the Day In hopes of gaining greater access to detainees held by U.S. forces, three Iraqi human rights lawyers from the Organization of Human Rights (OHR) tried to o

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Doug said: > I'd say that > developing new forms of union organization (involving workers > themselves and broader communities than the immediate workplace), > changing U.S. labor law, raising the minimum wage, agitating for the > basics of a civilized welfare state, reducing the role of > shareho

Re: FW: Today's Papers: Putin

The Russian word for irony is "ironiya." The word for iron is "zheleznoye." So no pun. I wasn't sure if I smelt one or not. Scanlan

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >> Suppose that you are really interested in the subject of > > revolutionary socialism. What questions about it do you think would > be worth asking in the United States today, when no one -- the least > of all, revolutionary socialists -- envisions any revolution > happe

Re: RS

Marvin Gandall wrote: The political strategies they bequeathed are less rewarding. They were all, without exception, wrong - revolutionaries and reformists alike. This was because the shared assumption upon which all of their differing prescriptions rested was mistaken: that capitalism had exhauste

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

One minor point: although I agree with all the objectives that you lay out, but I suspect that our preferred (Gramscian) role should be to help others figure out what their demands should be rather than laying out a plan for them. I say this without pretending in any way to have been particularly

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

"talk of [societal] revolution" is pretty useless, except with people who already share values, goals, theoretical conceptions, and the like. (Of course, it's okay to talk about the "diet revolution.") and Doug is right that if you do stuff like pushing for a living wage, you're likely to be d

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Devine, James wrote: As I've said (but somehow was largely ignored[*]), RS ideals and ideas should be used to decide which tactics and strategies to engage in (when combined with concrete analysis). I certainly agree with this - and with the importance of nonreformist reforms. So at the present mo

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

At 8:35 AM -0800 3/16/04, andie nachgeborenen wrote: What on earth is your point? It may or may not be useful to study today the actions and thoughts of revolutionaries of the past, but it all depends on what you intend to get out of them, what motivates you to learn from them, for what purpose you

RS

I think the relevance of the classical Marxists, for myself at least, lies in their analytical power, which is immense, rather than their predictive power, which turned out to be negligible. That’s to be expected since it is a lot easier to accurately interpret current conditions than to speculate

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Devine, James wrote: As I've said (but somehow was largely ignored[*]), RS ideals and ideas should be used to decide which tactics and strategies to engage in (when combined with concrete analysis). I certainly agree with this - and with the importance of nonreformist reforms. So at the present m

Re: Revolutionary socialism

Michael Perelman wrote: I suppose that we must look rather comical to some sitting in front of our computers, laying out a strategy for revolutionary socialism. Yeah, that's true. But not so comical to the young people who launched lefthook.org a few months ago. When I met with them this weekend,

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Doug writes: >The idea of revolution in the U.S. or any of its imperial peers seems like the stuff of a drug-induced reverie right now.< The idea of a revolution _right now_ does seem to be merely a drug-induced reverie at this point in history (as most advocates of RS, including all of those on

Re: RS

btw, i didn't raise matter of 'rs' to offer opening for either those who no longer/never did think 'the revo's gonna happen' or those who consider themselves 'revolutionaries' to repeat whatever mantras each has 'voiced' on this and other lists over years, i also didn't expect (nor should i have ex

Re: RS

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/04 07:10PM >>> I think it worth noting that almost _all_ substantial changes (for the better) under capitalism have originated as part of the activity of various revolutionary tendencies. Briefly, Revolutionaries make the best Reformers. If what precedes is accurate at a

Re: Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism - rejoinder

> This is a very good point. The appeal of autonomism is that you can call > yourself a revolutionary without actually forming organizations and taking > responsibility for anything. This was also the appeal of the New Left in > the 1960s. But, with due respect, even there I think you are mistaken

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Are we playing burden of proof here? What on earth is your point? I can think of lots of good things to do. Given my time, I defend habeas cases pro bono, go to NLG meetings, volunteer with the ACLU as a cooperating attorney, gove talks on the Patriot Act, participate as a legal observer at marche

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Joel Blau wrote: Could we introduce a little perspective here? I spent Saturday afternoon at the conference too. Some interesting information, a few sharp insights, certainly worth a Saturday afternoon. But it was just a conference of 2000 predominantly academic leftists--not a sit-in, march, demo

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

At 7:54 AM -0800 3/16/04, andie nachgeborenen wrote: It was your terms, "useful," so I thought you meant something by it. I'd like somethging useful for me, of course, or useful for Solidarity, or useful for people on this list, or useful for people who are trying to engage in activities that promo

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Surely. I don't think it makes sense to ask questions about a subject in which one isn't interested, and those who do so don't have any useful thoughts about them, however wise they may be on all other subjects, nor will they be able to hear others' opinions about it, unle

Re: corporations/More Side Issue

Charles asked:   > How do you avoid touching during sex ?  Must be quite a trick.   This is a slightly "schizo" answer maybe, but I would say, it could happen in a dream. John Lennon explains this as follows in his track #9 Dream, as follows:   On a river of soundThru the mirror go round,

Revolutionary Socialism: A one sentence explanation

It sounds better than "communism."

Re: Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism

Jurriaan wrote: The very term ""recruiting" is problematic, because this suggests that people are being conscripted into a military service under a Marx commander, a Marxist boss. And this is one of the factors which gave rise to autonomism in the first place. This is a very good point. The appeal

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Could we introduce a little perspective here? I spent Saturday afternoon at the conference too. Some interesting information, a few sharp insights, certainly worth a Saturday afternoon. But it was just a conference of 2000 predominantly academic leftists--not a sit-in, march, demonstration, or any

Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism

Louis wrote: >B-52's raining Volkswagen size bombs on peasant villages recruited me to socialism, not elegant descriptions of the "benefits" of a future world. I do not see how the one need exclude the other, and it really avoids the question of what would "recruit" young people to socialism the

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

It takes genuine interest > in a subject to > >>come up with useful thoughts about it. > >>-- > >>Yoshie > > > >Yoshie, please suggest a useful thought, then. This > is a genuine > >question. I'm kind of at the end of my rope. > > > >jks > > Use, after all, is a topic of practice. Useful for > wha

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Coxian? Carroll has not done anything here. On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:32:16AM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote: > The defensive > hostility of your answers suggests that you don't really know, and > want to turn the question into a Coxian accusation of "bad faith." > Please convince me to the contrary.

Re: Revolutionary socialism

I am glad to see that recruitment is working, but I am not so sure about the ample numbers. On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:37:54AM -0500, Louis Proyect wrote: > > Michael, the system is recruiting people to socialism in ample numbers. > Just the other day I got email from a 9th grade student doing a p

Re: Revolutionary socialism

Michael Perelman: Yes, what can we do to spread the kind of enthusiasm you are describing with the lefthook people? Michael, the system is recruiting people to socialism in ample numbers. Just the other day I got email from a 9th grade student doing a paper on Che Guevara and the Cuban revolution.

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Surely. I don't think it makes sense to ask questions about a subject in which one isn't interested, and those who do so don't have any useful thoughts about them, however wise they may be on all other subjects, nor will they be able to hear others' opinions about it, unle

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

There is nothing wrong with not being interested in revolutionary socialism -- few in the United States are. Leftists who are not interested in revolutionary socialism should ask the questions that really interest them. It takes genuine interest in a subject to come up with useful thoughts about

Re: Revolutionary socialism

On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:18:54AM -0500, Louis Proyect wrote: > > Yeah, that's true. But not so comical to the young people who launched > lefthook.org a few months ago. When I met with them this weekend, we kicked > around some ideas about what role that their website might play in a couple Yes,

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

I think that you could find a less abrasive way of making your point. Surely. I don't think it makes sense to ask questions about a subject in which one isn't interested, and those who do so don't have any useful thoughts about them, however wise they may be on all other subjects, nor will they be

Is a revolution in the USA possible ?

Doug asked: >I'd like to hear someone argue to the contrary. At the risk of appearing impossibly arrogant and irresponsible, I think it is quite possible to unleash a revolution in the United States, you just need to attack the weakest links in the chain there. All that is required is to create a

Re: Revolutionary socialism

Michael Perelman wrote: I suppose that we must look rather comical to some sitting in front of our computers, laying out a strategy for revolutionary socialism. Yeah, that's true. But not so comical to the young people who launched lefthook.org a few months ago. When I met with them this weekend, w

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

> > There is nothing wrong with not being interested in > revolutionary > socialism -- few in the United States are. Leftists > who are not > interested in revolutionary socialism should ask the > questions that > really interest them. It takes genuine interest in > a subject to come > up with us

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

I think that you could find a less abrasive way of making your point. On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:07:30AM -0500, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > >Yoshie, Doug is correct that "fake questions" implies that he is not > >communicating in good faith. > > I didn't imply it -- I stated it. Doug isn't interest

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Yoshie, Doug is correct that "fake questions" implies that he is not communicating in good faith. I didn't imply it -- I stated it. Doug isn't interested in the questions he asked, nor is he in any answers to them or thoughts about them given by anyone here or anywhere else, based on my long acqua

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

On Tuesday, March 16, 2004 at 09:47:59 (-0500) Doug Henwood writes: >Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >>... >>The first thing to do is to quit asking fake questions in which you >>aren't really interested. > >Those are real questions. Who are you to declare them fake? I could >just as easily declare your re

Revolutionary socialism

I suppose that we must look rather comical to some sitting in front of our computers, laying out a strategy for revolutionary socialism. First we need to be able to communicate why someone who has no idea about the potential benefits of socialism should be interested in the subject. Then we would

corporations/More Side Issue

   >the westerners don't come close to us indians when it comes to being >conservative about this stuff. we literally wrote the book on sex, but >now we don't even touch or kiss each other during sex ;-) ;-). > > --ravi ^^ How do you avoid touching during sex ?  Must be quite a trick.  

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

At 9:47 AM -0500 3/16/04, Doug Henwood wrote: Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Michael Hoover wrote: i confess to not knowing what constitutes revolutionary socialism Me either, and I wish someone would explain it to me. Armed takeover of the White House and the New York Stock Exchange? Really, could some

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Yoshie, Doug is correct that "fake questions" implies that he is not communicating in good faith. On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 09:47:59AM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote: > Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > > >>Michael Hoover wrote: > >> > >>>i confess to not knowing what constitutes revolutionary socialism > >> > >

Spain and Iraq

Although the new Spanish socialist government, reflecting the strong pressure of its supporters, says it will leave Iraq, analysts interviewed in today’s Wall Street Journal are sceptical it will do so. The US has been working behind the scenes with Germany and other European states to effect a no

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Michael Hoover wrote: i confess to not knowing what constitutes revolutionary socialism Me either, and I wish someone would explain it to me. Armed takeover of the White House and the New York Stock Exchange? Really, could some self-identified RS clarify? Doug The first th

A Cambridge lesson for US Democrats: how Prof. Eatwell answered Alan Greenspan... 11 years ago

Professor Lord John Eatwell, one of the brightest British reformist economists(http://www.jims.cam.ac.uk/people/faculty/eatwellj.html) wrote a very simple but quite prophetic article at the beginning of the Clinton era, which I've edited a little, with ten new subheads to fit with the current situa

Re: Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference

Ken Hanley wrote: I have no idea what Classical Marxism is supposed to mean. Marxism-Leninism seems to be included. Is Maoism classical Marxism? Most certainly. The observation that political power grows out of the barrel of a gun is about as classical as you can get. What drives me crazy about aut

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Today is the one year anniversary of the death of Rachel Corrie. Please join a vigil in your city or fax, call, and/or email your Representative in Congress and ask him/her to cosponsor the Rachel Corrie Resolution (House Concurrent Resolution 111) -- click on

Brown University to Examine Debt to Slave Trade

* The New York Times March 13, 2004 Brown University to Examine Debt to Slave Trade By PAM BELLUCK PROVIDENCE, R.I., - When Ruth J. Simmons became the president of Brown University nearly three years ago, one striking fact could not be overlooked. A great-granddaughter of slaves, Dr. Simmons

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