Let me give a few answers to some comments made on my chronology of
Russian-Chechen relations.
* I refered to a Russian puppet government set up in 1996. Chris Doss took this
as a typo or an odd reference to the Maskhadov govt. Actually, it was a
reference to the puppet Chechen
David, I cannot help noticing that you have written close to 1000 words
about what a fantastic chap Thomas Sowell is, and not a single word about
the actual (IMO lousy) boilerplate free trade hackwork that was forwarded to
the list. This also, is a form of argumentum ad hominem.
dd
I thought only Congress can declare war. It's in the Constitution.
(One of the main excuses of the ABB crowd for backing the pro-war, DLC,
Joe Lieberman wannabe John Kerry is that we need to reverse the
rightward drift of the Supreme Court. Leaving aside the question of John
Kerry announcing
A short time ago, some participants were arguing
that immediate US withdrawal from Iraq would "destabilize" the country and
damage the inhabitants.
The GAO has issued a report, available at:http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04902r.pdf that shows just
how beneficial the occupation has been, (and
American Prospect
No Tie -- Cobb!
The true story of how a man you've barely heard of beat Ralph Nader for
the Green Party nomination.
By Garance Franke-Ruta
Web Exclusive: 06.28.04
MILWAUKEE -- For Ralph Nader campaign spokesman Kevin Zeese, the map
explains it all. Hand drawn in black ballpoint
by Andy Borowitz--
IRAQ TRIES TO GIVE SOVEREIGNTY BACK
No Way, Says Cheney
One day after the United States transferred sovereignty to Iraq, Iraq unsuccessfully
attempted to give sovereignty back to the United States.
The decision to return sovereignty to the U.S. surprised many in diplomatic
David Shemano writes:
Why do the bourgeoise fund universities which employ Profs. Perelman and Devine? The
answer must lay elsewhere.
I work for a branch of the Catholic Church, the Jesuits. In general, academia is not
simply capitalist (i.e., funded by rich Catholic folk). There's a big
Jim, please don't send pictures to the list.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
David makes a good point, but with so much money and so many resources flowing to
amenable conservatives, careerism is a legitimate suspicion. To raise such a
suspicion is not to deny that conservatives are real people.
I do not mean to imply that careerism is a part of most conservatives
by David B. Shemano
That the Left has not the same is not a matter of luck. The bourgeoisie do
not pay people to be revolutionary propagandists and agitators or public
intellectuals, unsurprisingly.
Nonsense. The bourgeoise would sell the rope to a revolutionary if it would
make a profit,
No doubt this question has been asked before. Is there a FAQ?
Anyway, here goes. This Fall I am teaching freshman undergrad micro at the
University of Illinois-Urbana. I have not taught this course before.
After some consultation with various folks, I have ordered Stiglitz' text,
and also Hahnel's
sartesian wrote:
I am not so foolish to think that those arguing for stabilization under US
occupation will, having read this report, change their view, but I think it would be
nice for them to explain the dismal reality in light of their previous arguments.
I've just taken to ignoring
The book is by Goodwin, Nelson, Ackerman, and Weisskopf and its title is
MICROECONOMICS IN CONTEXT. Its focus is to not just give the standard neoclassical
stuff but also alternative theories. It's not radical like Hahnel. Rather, it's more
sophisticated than the standard textbook. Thus it
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American Prospect
No Tie -- Cobb!
The true story of how a man you've barely heard of beat Ralph Nader for
the Green Party nomination.
By Garance Franke-Ruta
Web Exclusive: 06.28.04
Make no mistake: Had Nader chosen to fight for it over the past year, he
could
Hi Michael,
Sorry about that. Just thought I would share. I'll not do it again. Hope
you are well.
Jim
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Perelman
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [PEN-L] FW:
boy are they politically incorrect, though!
jd
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Sent: Wed 6/30/2004 9:48 AM
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Cc:
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Hi
As a Lefty myself, I have never really thought very much about whether
Sowell and Thomas really believe what they say or not. My criticism of them
is not based on their insincerety , but on the atrocious content of their
political positions in general and on racism in particular.
As a Black
Time to hear from a left hack, radical chic jab from the left...
Cheers, Ken Hanly
www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15ItemID=5786
ZNet | Iraq June 26, 2004
The Robbery of Reconstruction
by Naomi Klein
Good news out of Baghdad: the Program Management Office, which oversees the
for what it's worth...
noticed that thomas voted with supreme court majority yesterday in
opposition to
federal law re. pornography children, his very first dissent from
conservative bloc
on court was in case involving porno (whether feds had entrapped some
guy to
purchase some stuff through
In his ongoing capacity as chief ideologist of the Demogreen/Realo
faction of the US Green Party, Ted Glick has an article on the Zmag
website that talks about every aspect of the recently concluded Green
Party convention except the politics. I will try to draw this out with
bracketed comments on
Not an hour after comparing Ted Glick to Gus Hall, I discover that David
Cobb's running mate is open to voting for John Kerry:
LaMarche Says She'll Vote for Whoever Can Beat Bush
by Joshua L Weinstein
AUGUSTA Pat LaMarche, the Green Party's newly nominated candidate for
vice president, said
From David Cobb's website:
In the years since Holland, LaMarche has been employed at a radio
station in Maine's capital under the pseudonym Genny Judge, which she
borrowed from her late mother. Genny Judge is known throughout central
Maine as an altruist in the truest sense of the term. She has
The farmer who scared Washington, DC just got his sentence reduced to 18 months. He
was a farmer who was down and out, not a real threat to society. Even so, can you
imagine what would happen to an anti-Bush protester
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Daniel Davies writes:
David, I cannot help noticing that you have written close to 1000 words
about what a fantastic chap Thomas Sowell is, and not a single word about
the actual (IMO lousy) boilerplate free trade hackwork that was forwarded to
the list. This also, is a form of argumentum ad
Jim Devine writes:
Also, I don't know if Sowell is a careerist or not. I also wasn't saying that
conservatives
are wrong, though that's true. (Thanks for bringing that issue up!) They often
don't
believe in their own rhetoric. The leaders, such as Karl Rove, are quite cynical.
On the
I'm always glad to be a hack from your perspective, David.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
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Shemano
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:49 PM
I wrote: I'll let David define [conservative].
David Shemano answers:
A true conservative is somebody who agrees with me. That was easy.
the Wikipedia has an interesting article on conservatism at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative. Here's the introduction:
Conservatism or
Charles Brown writes:
The answer , in general, is right where it seems to be. With very rare
exceptions (if Moore is really one), the right , not the left will get gigs
like Sowell's because of the right has money and the left doesn't, natch,
obviously. Why do you think Sowell switched ?
I think that someone's move from left to right on the political spectrum varies a
lot among individuals. Sometimes, a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged (to
quote the cliché). On a larger scale, a lot of people have shifted right simply
because the leftist mass movement has atomized
Charles Brown writes:
Hey , on an old thread, I haven't seen you since Enron. What to you think
about bookcooking on Wall Street,now ?
What do I think about it? I am against it.
Look, fraud is illegal in a capitalist economy. There is a certain percentage of the
population that is going to
Same Donkey, Different Saddle (the title comes from an Iraqi
proverb that perfectly describes not only the transfer of
sovereignty in Iraq but also US and UK politics at home):
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/06/same-donkey-different-saddle.html
Charles Brown writes:
Hey , on an old thread, I haven't seen you since Enron. What to you
think about bookcooking on Wall Street,now ?
David Shemano writes:
What do I think about it? I am against it.
Look, fraud is illegal in a capitalist economy. There is a certain
percentage of the
Title: bush vent
A good site for
venting.
http://www.spankbush.com/index.asp?ref=593949
While many of us might agree with Jim, we should address David more respectfully.
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 03:34:35PM -0700, Craven, Jim wrote:
David Shemano writes:
What do I think about it? I am against it.
Look, fraud is illegal in a capitalist economy. There is a certain
percentage of
Thomas Sowell
June 29, 2004 /10 Tamuz, 5764
Excerpt
"Just as an artificially high price for wheat set by the government leads
to a chronic surplus of wheat, so an artificially high price for labor set by
the government leads to a surplus of labor better known as unemployment.
"Since all
While many of us might agree with Jim, we should address David more
respectfully.
Response Jim C: I'm sorry, did I break some list protocol? This guy can
make snotty passive/aggressive sarcasm (about fraud being not possible
under socialism) and basically pimp a totally bullshit
David is a conservative. He speaks English with a right wing dialect, but he does so
with humor (not snottiness). We can disagree with him. I usually do, but we can
still be polite.
I don't see him as a red meat class warrior, but as a sincere [albeit misguided]
conservative].
On Wed, Jun 30,
David is a conservative. He speaks English with a right wing dialect,
but he does so with humor (not snottiness). We can disagree with him.
I usually do, but we can still be polite.
I don't see him as a red meat class warrior, but as a sincere [albeit
misguided] conservative].
Response: Jim C
Well, sort of.
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,64021,00.html
Solar to Keep Army on the Go
By John Gartner 02:00 AM Jun. 29, 2004 PT
During a battle, the ability to move troops swiftly and without
detection can mean the difference between victory and defeat. The U.S.
Army is
The Green Party's Political Suicide (The Green Party vice
presidential candidate Pat LaMarche announced to the press that she
would not commit to voting for herself and her running mate, Texas
lawyer David Cobb!!!):
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/06/green-partys-political-suicide.html
Yoshie
You are right. Bush claims that Congress gave him the power, but in reality Congress
was not empowered according to the Constitution to adbicate that right.
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 09:13:31AM +0200, Gassler Robert wrote:
I thought only Congress can declare war. It's in the Constitution.
--
I seem to remember from university days that the power of Congress to decide
whether or not the USA is at war or not, is one that has repeatedly been
ignored by successive US Presidents to the point where it is more or less
universally regarded as part of the dignified apparatus of the US
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/30/bush.nader/index.html
Bush allies illegally helping Nader in Oregon
Complaint filed with Federal Election Commission
Wednesday, June 30, 2004 Posted: 8:19 PM EDT (0019 GMT)
America Votes 2004
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Efforts by two conservative groups to help
Dan Scanlan wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/30/bush.nader/index.html
Bush allies illegally helping Nader in Oregon
Complaint filed with Federal Election Commission
Wednesday, June 30, 2004 Posted: 8:19 PM EDT (0019 GMT)
America Votes 2004
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Efforts by two
Title: election concern
Voting official
seeks process for canceling Election Day over terrorism
Friday, June 25, 2004
BY ERICA WERNER
ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON - The government needs to establish guidelines for
canceling or rescheduling elections if terrorists strike the United
States
Louis wrote...
That's nothing in comparison to Gore inspiring more than 200,000
registered Democrats in Florida to crossover and vote for George W. Bush
in the last election. The Democrats should not worry about the tiny
number of Democrats who vote for Nader. They should try to figure out
how to
In defense of David Shemano, Michael Perelman writes:
David is a conservative. He speaks English with a right wing dialect, but he does
so
with humor (not snottiness). We can disagree with him. I usually do, but we can
still be polite.
I don't see him as a red meat class warrior, but as
We used to get conservatives here who came to convert us. All they did
was to create irritation. David never has done that. Sometimes he
tweaks us -- always in good humor.
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA
95929
As a I said when I first participated
Michael Hoover wrote..
i posted comments yesterday about why electoral campaigns are not good
vehicles for building mass movements, above article reflects those
remarks...
have never understood green party's desire for nader, he stiffed them in
96 by refusing to campaign, his 'party of person'
Does anybody on the list know how to contact him?
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Horseshit. Capitalism is not legalized fraud and theft. Capital is the
expropriation of labor through its force organization as wage-labor. Such
compelled organization entails the social immiseration of the overwhelming
majority of the world's population.
Property is not theft. It's class
David, if you want to play here, you can't behave like that!
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:21:54PM -0700, sartesian wrote:
Horseshit. Capitalism is not legalized fraud and theft. Capital is the
expropriation of labor through its force organization as wage-labor. Such
compelled organization
From: Daniel Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I seem to remember from university days that the power of Congress to
decide
whether or not the USA is at war or not, is one that has repeatedly been
ignored by successive US Presidents ...
Hey, credit where it's due! This provision has been ignored by
Iraq is worse off than before the war began, GAO reports
By Seth Borenstein
Knight Ridder Newspapers
WASHINGTON - In a few key areas - electricity, the judicial system and
overall security - the Iraq that America handed back to its residents Monday
is worse off than before the war began last
Why does the statement assume the justness of private property? Surely it
assumes the opposite. Of course the thesis is common Proudhon in fact wrote
a book on property that coined the expression property as theft. In spite of
the great bitterness Marx shows towards his views, Proudhon ,as Marx,
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: Enron
In defense of David Shemano, Michael Perelman writes:
David is a conservative. He speaks English with a right wing dialect,
but he does so
Sorry about the Lockean tabula rasa.. I meant to add a few comments to my
earlier reply.
If you mean by private property, personal property appropriated in a
certain manner then perhaps the justness of private property in that sense
is assumed in saying that private property is theft. However the
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