[PEN-L:7077] Re: Re: Re: Re: FW: this guys for real

1999-05-20 Thread S Pawlett
Thomas Kruse wrote: > All over, really, but like much else in this world it is quite diverse, > with marked class differences. Mormons, for example, seem to be a much > more upper middle class thing, with the occasional geture to the unwashed > masses, welcome in small numbers if they wash and c

[PEN-L:7014] Re: Re: FW: this guys for real

1999-05-19 Thread S Pawlett
Thomas Kruse wrote: > > > The other day we were up in Tunari National Foerest, overlooking > Cochabamba. I syped a new construction; a massive thing rising on the > northern edge of the city. Back down in the city we went to investigate. > Turns out the Mormons are building their Operations HQ

[PEN-L:7013] Re: Encyclopaedia of Radical Political Economy

1999-05-19 Thread S Pawlett
Max Sawicky wrote: > Democratic Republic of Vietnam. Used military force to violate national > sovereignty of Democratic Kampuchea. Not quite. Vietnam had since Feb. 1975 tried to settle border disputes through diplomacy. The CPK delegation walked out of talks in 1977. Vietnam invaded DK to se

[PEN-L:7012] [Fwd: TIME: Suharto Inc. all in the family]

1999-05-19 Thread S Pawlett
Suharto Inc. all in the family == Time Magazine - May 24, 1999 A Time investigation into the wealth of Indonesia's Suharto and his children uncovers a $15 billion fortune in cash, property, art, jewelry and jets. By John Colmey and David Liebhold Jakarta -- Whe

[PEN-L:6909] Re: Kurds and Kosovars

1999-05-17 Thread S Pawlett
J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. wrote: > Neither case can be called genocide, however. The attempt > by NATO leaders to rhetorically link Milosevic with Hitler does > not wash. The numbers killled by neither the Turks nor the Serbs > come anywhere close to justifying such a claim and do not > const

[PEN-L:6895] Re: Re: Re: Re: "military euro"

1999-05-17 Thread S Pawlett
Doug Henwood wrote: > Peter Dorman wrote: > > >Bark, I've heard the figure "one million displacements" tossed around > >regarding Turkey and the Kurds. Can you or anyone else verify? And > >what does displacement mean in this context? Were they expelled through > >terror the way the ethnic Alb

[PEN-L:6865] Re: Re: RE: Old "foggies"/"fogeys"

1999-05-15 Thread S Pawlett
Peter Dorman wrote: > I don't think this is a useful analysis, for two reasons. > > 1. It assumes a stark opposition between neoclassical economics and > Marxism, with neither overlap nor third alternatives. This doesn't > describe the actual political/ideological/methodological situation > with

[PEN-L:6792] [Fwd: Dismantle NATO]-R Fisk

1999-05-13 Thread S Pawlett
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[PEN-L:6758] Re: Balkan Action Committee

1999-05-13 Thread S Pawlett
Louis Proyect wrote: > William Howard Taft This isn't the same Taft of the Taft-Hartley law is it? Still alive? Lame Kirkland? Sam Pawlett

[PEN-L:6731] [Fwd: Eqbal Ahmad [1932-1999]: Scholar, Writer, Activist]

1999-05-12 Thread S Pawlett
Dawn Newspaper, Pakistan http://www.dawn.com/daily/19990512/top5.htm ISLAMABAD, May 11: Dr Eqbal Ahmad, renowned scholar and a columnist of Dawn, passed away in Islamabad in the early hours of May 11, 1999 after a brief illness. He was 67. He will be buried in Islamabad (H-8 graveyard) on We

[PEN-L:6681] Re: Re: Re: Re: Econometrics

1999-05-11 Thread S Pawlett
Jim Devine wrote: > Economics is a more ideological subject than biology or physics, partly > because economics is so much more crucial to legitimating the system. That > is, economics' corruption is more systematic: individual biologists sell > out to drug industry, but the dominant school of ec

[PEN-L:6546] Re: Re: Brenner

1999-05-09 Thread S Pawlett
Jim D, thanks for your great post on Brenner. I was going to put together a reply but I don't really disagree much.I would just add that the Fine article does the value-theoretic critique of Brenner (Rakesh B will like this article.) I'm generally sceptical of the globalisation thesis, but interpr

[PEN-L:6545] Re: Swift in Russia

1999-05-09 Thread S Pawlett
Michael Perelman wrote: > A friend whose wife is Russian assures me that street children are > disappearing in Russia, supposedly to cannibalism. I don't know how > common this rumor is, but her friends firmly believe it. > > Also, I recall that the CIA spread rumors of cannibalism right before

[PEN-L:6469] Re: renner

1999-05-06 Thread S Pawlett
Jim Devine wrote: > > I wanted to add that Bob Brenner's excellent new book argues that > international competition between the advanced capitalist countries led to > the crisis of the 1970s, while a similar analysis applies to the > competition in East Asia that led to the 1997 crisis. One of t

[PEN-L:6447] Re: Re: randomness and Yugo war

1999-05-05 Thread S Pawlett
Jim Devine wrote: > There is always a role for randomness in real-world historical events. > Capitalism, contrary to some Marxists like Paul Baran in his POLITICAL > ECONOMY OF GROWTH (1956?), is not some sort of monolithic force. It always > involves a dynamic competition of capitals, always str

[PEN-L:6283] Re: Re: Another Note---severed heads in the garden

1999-04-30 Thread S Pawlett
"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote > Again, I would reserve the word "partition" for the > idea of dividing up Kosovo-Metohija somehow, not a > separation of some sort of the whole province from Serbia. > This would keep our discussion clear. The example to think > of is Bosnia-Herzegovina which has

[PEN-L:6238] Re: Re: Re: U.S. HOUSE REJECTS NATO'S WAR

1999-04-30 Thread S Pawlett
> > Yoshie's posting on Vuk Draskovic is a classic example. We used to call > those people "nomenklatura" - implying a list of names that would pop up > whenever a political opportunity arises, and saying the most opportune > things for the occasion (Milan Kundera's novel _The Joke_ contains a

[PEN-L:6180] Re: Re: Re: A note of thanks to all

1999-04-29 Thread S Pawlett
Carrol Cox wrote: > S Pawlett wrote: > > > All arguments are subject to counter-arguments. One person's modus tollens is > > another persons modus podens. One person's transcendental argument is another's > > petitio principii. > > As a mere empirical

[PEN-L:6153] Re: A note of thanks to all

1999-04-29 Thread S Pawlett
Louis Proyect wrote: > > I honestly don't understand why people have been "debating" Max for the > past few weeks, since the arguments have tended to repeat themselves. > Mostly what I have seen recently are posts of a philosophical or ethical > nature that inherently are not subject to counterar

[PEN-L:6137] [Fwd: Zinn: A Diplomatic Solution]

1999-04-28 Thread S Pawlett
Original Message Subject: Zinn: A Diplomatic Solution Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:53:48 -0700 From: Phil Gasper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Progressive May 1999 A Diplomatic Solution by Howard Zinn A FRIEND WROTE to ask my opinion on Kosovo. He said many peop

[PEN-L:6110] Re: Poverty Rate Note

1999-04-28 Thread S Pawlett
Tim Stroshane wrote: > > At a conference last week, I heard it said that in some > California rental markets, something like 80 percent of the > tenants pay more than 50 percent of their incomes in rent. > (Until I get the reports from which this is quoted, please, > everyone on the list, conside

[PEN-L:6021] Re: Re: Re: Re: graffitti

1999-04-27 Thread S Pawlett
Thomas Kruse wrote: > Graffitti here is pretty amazing, ranging from highly political, to > personal and poetic. There is little tagging. Many people find the walls > the place to write verse; some if it is relly pretty good. > > A student om mine did a research project on it and found that the

[PEN-L:6020] Stiglitz Bites Bullet: Poverty Increasing

1999-04-27 Thread S Pawlett
Reuters ran a story today summarizing the findings of a recent World Bank Study. (the annual development report?): Stiglitz:" We must be more cautious of programs that promote growth in ways that are not sustainable or which save the economy, or at least the exchange rate, but at the cost of incr

[PEN-L:5834] Re: Re: Race, Gender, and Guns (was Re: Re: Re: Highschool)

1999-04-23 Thread S Pawlett
> Naturally everyone is sorry about the innocent victims, and horrified, > disgusted, repelled by what those two poor miserable psycho bastards > Harris and Klebold did. But they're not alive any more for us to hate; > fear and rage ate their minds, they went mad and now they're dead. So > I, a

[PEN-L:5779] Re: Re: Re: aftermath of school schootings

1999-04-22 Thread S Pawlett
Jim Devine wrote: > Sam P. wrote: > >... There is no causal link between gun ownership and crime. In > Switzerland, I believe, every male is required to have a gun yet > Switzerland has a low crime rate.< > > But each has a gun as part of the national armed forces and so gun use is > highly r

[PEN-L:5740] Re: aftermath of school schootings

1999-04-21 Thread S Pawlett
Michael Perelman wrote: > Each senseless act of front page violence is followed up by repressive > legislation. What do you think will be the followup of the shootings in > > Colo.? > Reminds me a lot of the Stockton schoolyard massacre a few years back when Clayton Purdy a homeless drifter w

[PEN-L:5651] Re: Re: Young Democratic Socialists position on Kosovo

1999-04-20 Thread S Pawlett
Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > At 04:31 PM 4/20/99 -0400, you wrote: > > >> Yes it does by modus todus. If P then Q. ~P so ~ Q. If bombing > >leads to > >the destruction of Kosovo then not bombing will lead to not > >destroying > >Kosovo. > > > Modus tollens, I presume which takes the form if p the

[PEN-L:5628] [Fwd: Fwd: Interview with Noam Chomsky]

1999-04-20 Thread S Pawlett
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[PEN-L:5627] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Young Democratic Socialists position onKosovo

1999-04-20 Thread S Pawlett
> > The more pertinent question for us is what should we do? To me > the greater human emergency is the Muslims, not the Serbs. > Muslims are suffering more in aggregate and individually than > Serbs. My starting point and priority is how to effect the > rescue of Muslims. I further think th

[PEN-L:5592] Re: RE: Re: Young Democratic Socialists position on Kosovo

1999-04-20 Thread S Pawlett
> > Bombing is not immoral. The burden of proof is on you to show this. Lets have some reasons. I take it as a starting point (i.e.self-evident) that peace is everywhere and always preferable to war. > People who send bombers can be. Anybody can be immoral. What theory of morality are you wo

[PEN-L:5572] Commandante Soros?

1999-04-19 Thread S Pawlett
The National Post (Canada's new Connie Black propaganda tool) had an article today that stated that George Soros and his Open Society operation are funding the KLA. I guess the big boys just want be sure that the KLA will act like local gendarmes for imperialism. Another reason not to support the

[PEN-L:5507] Re: Re: Saudi Arabia

1999-04-19 Thread S Pawlett
"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote: >This guy Aburish is way off one detail. Britain did > not support Abdulaziz ("Ibn Saud"). They supported the > Hashemites who were the local viceroys of the Ottomans > in Mecca before WW I. After Prince Faisal saw Arab > protesters in Beirut gunned do

[PEN-L:5437] Saudi Arabia

1999-04-17 Thread S Pawlett
>From _The Great Deception. Anglo-American Power and World Order_ by Mark Curtis. Pluto Press. 1999. "Saudi Arabia, perhaps the most repressive and illiberal of all the Gulf states, has been the biggest Western prize in the region in terms of oil and long-standing Western policy has been to suppo

[PEN-L:5407] Re: Re: Re: NGO analysis by Salvadoran and James Petras (fwd)

1999-04-16 Thread S Pawlett
> It is a good one, although I've heard a similar story about a Communist > Party apparatchik in x-USSR. The punchline was "Be careful the communists > do not take notice and take everything away." > "Will we have money under communism? No we will not have that either." I misspelled an author

[PEN-L:5375] Re: RE: RE: NYC antiwar rally set for Friday

1999-04-15 Thread S Pawlett
> If 'planning regime' is intended to describe our present system, I'd say off > the top of my head that you have a formidable challenge in motivating any > but the most broad notion of planning. Its hard to imagine our elites > planning anything. > except the subversion and destruction of oth

[PEN-L:5331] Re: NGO analysis by Salvadoran and James Petras (fwd)

1999-04-15 Thread S Pawlett
Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > I'll try to answer numerous concerns raised in replies to the original > posting in this thread. > > 1. Most people who responded agree that NGOs can be many diffrent things, > some of them better than others. That is precisely the point I tried to > get across. NGO

[PEN-L:5283] Re: NGO analysis by Salvadoran and James Petras (fwd)

1999-04-14 Thread S Pawlett
Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > Here is what I see as an important issue, as far as Left organizing is > concerned. The enclosed posting argues that the development of NGOs (in > Latin America, but the argument can be extended to other regions as well) > has a detrimental effect on Left organizing, b

[PEN-L:5157] Re: Re: Re: Marcus Gee on the Bombing

1999-04-12 Thread S Pawlett
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > Sam wrote: > < because we are losing.>> > > Anthony Lewis, on the Balkan issues, have been consistently more hawkish > than usual suspects, I think. Has he changed his tune? > Maybe, I only read the NYT sporadically now. I was referring more to the generic Anthony Lew

[PEN-L:5128] Re: Marcus Gee on the Bombing

1999-04-11 Thread S Pawlett
Ken Hanly wrote: > Here is the sort of thing I was talking about from the Globe. Gee > had one or two other critical articles but the last stuff I have > seen by him is typical trash that fits well with the demonisation > process involved as part of NATO psychological warfare. Who > knows, mayb

[PEN-L:5122] Re: Canadian Poll

1999-04-11 Thread S Pawlett
> CBC reports a poll of Canadians shows that 57% favor sending > ground troops to Kosovo and > 79% support the bombing. THe defence minister claims this > reflects Canadian values. > However, I think it also reflects that fact that the CBC has now > overtaken and surpassed CNN > in its role of pro