Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Carrol Cox
I would disagree. It seems to me that maillists are primarily conversational, and attempts to make them replace printed journals are mostly wishful thinking. I my only rarely either read or write posts much longer than 4 or 5 screens. Moreover, issues that really do depend on large amounts of empi

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Carl Remick
>From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >the best any thread on pen-l (and lbo-talk?) seems to be able to do is to >clarify differences. Yes, clearly there's little difference between pen-l and lbo on that score :) Carl _ MSN

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:28996] Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism Louis writes: > I know this is an onerous burden to place on pen-l'ers, but > you should search for ways to impart some kind of concrete information > whenever you post. That's good, but I like a weaker stan

RE: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:28995] Re: Re: Re: : liberalism the best any thread on pen-l (and lbo-talk?) seems to be able to do is to clarify differences. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > -Original Message- > From: Doug Henwood [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Gil Skillman
Michael writes: > I would only add that in >these debates nobody seems to learn anything from anybody else -- at >least, you can pretty well predict what the few participants in such >debates will write. To be sure, most postings in most PEN-L debates appear as predictable rehearsals of existi

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Michael Perelman
Lou expressed my thought better than I did. I would only add that in these debates nobody seems to learn anything from anybody else -- at least, you can pretty well predict what the few participants in such debates will write. On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 10:25:32AM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote: > In

Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Louis Proyect
>Michael Perelman wrote: > >>Is this discussion or the elitism thread going anywhere? > >Not really, but does any thread ever go anywhere? > >Doug I know this is an onerous burden to place on pen-l'ers, but you should search for ways to impart some kind of concrete information whenever you pos

Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: >Is this discussion or the elitism thread going anywhere? Not really, but does any thread ever go anywhere? Doug

RE: Re: RE: liberalism

2002-07-31 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:28970] Re: RE: liberalism I wrote: >>It's important to remember that the New Deal also had lots of support for businesses, too.<< Justin: >Like I said, it saved c pitalism.< there's a difference: individual businesses often care about nothing but their own profit. It's on

Re: RE: Re: Re: liberalism

2002-07-31 Thread Justin Schwartz
> > >As I said, almost everyone. jks > >Almost everyone is right; as far as I can tell, yer man Posner is not in >favour of representative government or of "extensive civil rights and >liberties" in as much as these can't be derived from property rights. That's unfair to Posner. His notion of

RE: Re: Re: liberalism

2002-07-31 Thread Davies, Daniel
>As I said, almost everyone. jks Almost everyone is right; as far as I can tell, yer man Posner is not in favour of representative government or of "extensive civil rights and liberties" in as much as these can't be derived from property rights. What's your argument against his utopia of a smal

RE: Re: Re: liberalism

2002-07-31 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:28943] Re: Re: liberalism >>Justin Schwartz wrote: >>> As I said before, almost everyone here--you too--favors > > > univ. suffrage --- Yes [Carrol's response] > > > extensive civil rights and liberties Yes [ditto] > > > representative govt  -  NO [ditt