Re: Re: wynne godley (Attn., Charles & Yoshie)

Some secondary sources on Bukharin below, for Charles and y'all.Mark Selden, below, btw, edited a great collection of docs for MR Press on the CCP and PRC back in the 80's or late 70's. His articles in the Bulletin of Concerned Asian Scholars along with counterpoints by Edward Friedman and Maur

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/19/01 08:18PM >>> neither. It says that Lenin felt and said that Bukharin's book was more complete and accurate than his own little pamphlet on the subject. Bukharin's analysis doesn't fit today's imperialism very well at all, since his emphasis was on the aggressiv

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I wrote: >I don't think the current day fits Lenin's sketch very well at all. Lenin >himself once wrote that Bukharin's book on imperialism was superior. Charles writes: >CB: Are you saying 1) that Bukharin's analysis of imperialism of that >period contradicted Lenin's main points , or elaborate

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I wrote: >(On net these days, the US is _importing_ tremendous amounts of capital.) Charles writes: >CB: What is the comparison between US export of capital and export of goods ? US net exports of goods and services + net US income earned on foreign operations = a negative number these days (

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To that extent tax competition is on point. In the main, urban fiscal problems are due to the city-suburb (city-state legislature) relationship, IMO. mbs Max, I don't understand your point. Toledo gave away tax breaks to lure companies, such as Chrysler, which gutted its tax base.

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Max, I don't understand your point. Toledo gave away tax breaks to lure companies, such as Chrysler, which gutted its tax base. On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 04:49:04PM -0400, Max Sawicky wrote: > I don't think it's quite right as an > analogy. There's a city/suburb problem > that you can appreciate

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I don't think it's quite right as an analogy. There's a city/suburb problem that you can appreciate wherein better-off people reside in suburbs and use the cities for job locations, services, and certain amenities not available in suburbs (museums, sports teams, etc.). This way they avoid, with

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>CB: Cutting taxes on multinationals, but not on workers ? Cutting wages or >working class incomes , in part, by cutting social spending , this >neo-liberalist austerity ? yup. >CB: Is it the pushing exports and the cutting taxes and wages that could >lead to deepening world depresssion , o

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Like the U.S. Business Industrial Council. Marc Cooper on Radio Nation had on one of their ideologues. http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/98profiles/24303.htm 1998 DATA* (1997 DATA ALSO AVAILABLE) US Business & Industrial Council Total Lobbying Expenditures: $60,000 Lobbying Firms Hired

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Charles wrote: >CB: What is competitive austerity ? Is it competition between governments >to see who can cut social spending and public enterprise the most ? Is the >difference between this and the 1930 situation that there weren't welfare >state institutions as much in place then as in the pe

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There is tax competition between states and countries, but the effect in distorting tax structures is much more important, IMO, than the impact on the size of government. There is pressure on the size of Gov, but it stems from ideological and (anti-)redistributive concerns, not very much from act

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Max Sawicky wrote, >If the discussion is not fruitful, >I'm sure it will be nutful. Beans are a fruit, aren't they? Tom Walker Bowen Island, BC 604 947 2213

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> In any event, the world political economy has changed, undermining >the political basis for "protectionism" Jim, I check the archives often, and have learned a great deal from your posts. Not sure I agree here. Wouldn't the US state like to run a trade deficit to its own mnc's and thus ac

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Mark Jones wrote: >Incidentally, the Godley paper lays policy emphasis on import controls. This >looks like impish humour, since it is hard to imagine how such a policy >could be implemented without doing even more damage. As Jim Devine says, the >cure is worse than the disease: > > >>To summarize

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. . . The effects of any form of undisguised wall-to-wall US protectionism on world trade today would be presumably, completely catastrophic, the debacle even worse than 1929-31. Is the Godley view that this debacle is inevitable anyway, so it's a case of sauve qui peut? Mark Jones I presume a

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At 09:37 AM 7/17/01 -0700, you wrote: >Although Godley is not signing on for a while, his co-author and >ex-penner, Alex Izurieta, is coming on board. You can direct some of >these questions for him, although you might wait a couple of hours. folks, be polite! Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & htt

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Although Godley is not signing on for a while, his co-author and ex-penner, Alex Izurieta, is coming on board. You can direct some of these questions for him, although you might wait a couple of hours. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 53

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At 04:08 PM 7/17/01 +, you wrote: >Ah, we're talking economics again, are we? is that allowed? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine "Is it peace or is it Prozac?" -- Cheryl Wheeler.

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This also creates a bind regarding the dollar. If the dollar threatens to depreciate, the damn foreigners will refuse to continue financing "our binge", dump their securities, drop the market and spoil our fun. Rob Schaap wrote: > Ah, we're talking economics again, are we? > > Well, Prudent Bea

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At 17/07/01 02:00 +0100, you wrote: >Michael Perelman: > > > > I think that Godley may sign up to pen-l after he returns from England. I > > hope that we can discuss his paper fruitfully. > >I'd be specially interested to discuss his views about import controls. > >Mark Wynne Godley is a though

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Ah, we're talking economics again, are we? Well, Prudent Bear Marshall Auerback talked about Wynn Godley's thoughts on private sector debt last August (when, to my mind, things looked bad, but not as bad as now - Kenichi Ohmae's war

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--- Original Message - From: Mark Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 6:00 PM Subject: [PEN-L:15210] RE: wynne godley > Michael Perelman: > > > > I think that Godley may sign up to pen-l after he returns from England. I &g

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Worse than that, it makes sense -- a violation of basic academic principles. On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 04:29:07PM -0500, Forstater, Mathew wrote: > his work is very important i think. he sets up scenarios with simple > models, like > > Y = C + I + G + X -M > > or > -- Michael Perelman Econom

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elman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:15206] Re: RE: wynne godley I was hoping for more fruit and less nuts. On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 03:48:15PM -0400, Max Sawicky wrote: > If the discussion is not fruitful, > I'm sure i

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I was hoping for more fruit and less nuts. On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 03:48:15PM -0400, Max Sawicky wrote: > If the discussion is not fruitful, > I'm sure it will be nutful. > > mbs > > > Jim Devine has brought up Wynne Godley's work several times. He has a new > paper writter with a former penn

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If the discussion is not fruitful, I'm sure it will be nutful. mbs Jim Devine has brought up Wynne Godley's work several times. He has a new paper writter with a former penner, who had promised to return. I think that Godley may sign up to pen-l after he returns from England. I hope that we

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I read it a while ago, and thought it was pretty persuasive, but I'd be interested in any critiques. Joel Blau Michael Perelman wrote: > Jim Devine has referred to Wynne Godley's 7 unsustainable processes > before. Does anybody else have any opinions about the article? > > -- > Michael Perelma