Re: [PEN-L] Away with Sarbanes Oxley?

2007-12-31 Thread Marvin Gandall
Michael Perelman wrote: Whatever happened to the rabid calls for eliminating Sarbanes Oxley? Does anybody even Enron, Tyco, Worldcom, etc? After calls for strong regulation to prevent such things from happening again, we Congress gave us the weak Sarbanes Oxley. Not long after, the business

Re: [PEN-L] Download uproar

2007-12-31 Thread Leigh Meyers
Ok... for a start... They COULD make money owning the servers the file-sharers use and you know, they already do! Most of the portals for information (it's been years since darpanet's concept of 'flexible routing' truly meant anything) such as AOL are owned by the same media conglomerates

Re: [PEN-L] Escaped tigers

2007-12-31 Thread Charles Brown
Today the newspaper reported that the wall is only 12 feet tall, not 18 (!) . Duh. Charles Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/27/2007 1:06 PM Until the assassination of Benazir Bhutto occurred, the cable news networks were consumed with the news of a tiger escaping from its cage in the San

[PEN-L] Mich.'s tough times drawing to a close (?) but...

2007-12-31 Thread Charles Brown
http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071228/BIZ/712280344 Friday, December 28, 2007 2008 industry outlook Mich.'s tough times drawing to a close But more pain expected before gain Louis Aguilar and Sofia Kosmetatos / The Detroit News Michigan's economy in the past few years has

Re: [PEN-L] [Marxism] Escaped Tigers

2007-12-31 Thread Louis Proyect
Charles Brown wrote: Today the newspaper reported that the wall is only 12.5 feet tall, not 18 (!) . Duh. And evidently this zoo has a very troubled past. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/30/MNNQU63KP.DTL S.F. Zoo's history of mismanagement; morale down under new

[PEN-L] Zoo knew about inadequate wall

2007-12-31 Thread Louis Proyect
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/30/MN00U6PR7.DTL S.F. ZOO TIGER ATTACK BELOVED BUT BELEAGUERED ZOO GROTTO DESIGN: Keepers say many people were aware of potential for tigers to escape; 2 victims released from hospital Steve Rubenstein, Chronicle Staff Writer Sunday,

[PEN-L] De-concentrating the Media: Example - Times Square, IAVW, Digital Billboard, Text Messaging

2007-12-31 Thread Leigh Meyers
My message is #337. Dear IAVA Supporter, While we get ready to attend New Year's Eve parties and celebrations tonight, many of our service members will be ringing in 2008 in Iraq and Afghanistan - thousands of miles away from their families. Tonight, you have a unique opportunity to show how

[PEN-L] (Mis)Understanding a Banking Industry in Transition

2007-12-31 Thread Charles Brown
Under deregulation the industry became dysfunctional - but economists still won't revise their anti-regulation script. by William K Black http://www.dollarsandsense.org (November / December 2007) This article is from the November / December 2007 issue of Dollars Sense: The Magazine of Economic

[PEN-L] Top economist says America could plunge into recession

2007-12-31 Thread Charles Brown
I doubt it. As we speak, the Economic Wizards are blowing up new bubbles. Double Bubble, Toil and Prosperity. CB http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20071224/024472.html From The Times December 31, 2007 Top economist says America could plunge into

[PEN-L] Stone Age Economics

2007-12-31 Thread Charles Brown
http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10278703 Hunter-gatherers Noble or savage? Dec 19th 2007 The era of the hunter-gatherer was not the social and environmental Eden that some suggest Hemis.fr HUMAN beings have spent most of their time on the planet as hunter-gatherers. From

Re: [PEN-L] Stone Age Economics

2007-12-31 Thread Louis Proyect
Despite the fact that the Economist article includes the observation that Friedrich Engels was probably right to identify agriculture with a loss of political innocence, it is basically an attack on the noble savage mythology that has been found in a variety of places, including the atrocious The

Re: [PEN-L] Stone Age Economics

2007-12-31 Thread Louis Proyect
Louis Proyect wrote: Despite the fact that the Economist article includes the observation that Friedrich Engels was probably right to identify agriculture with a loss of political innocence, it is basically an attack on the noble savage mythology that has been found in a variety of places,

[PEN-L] query: Cynthia McKinney

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Devine
a friend referred to Cynthia McKinney (who might be nominated as the California Green Party's presidential candidate) as an anti-Semite. I checked out and the allegations seem to be entirely based on the presence of members of the New Black Panther Party in her entourage. In the quotes from the

Re: [PEN-L] query: Cynthia McKinney

2007-12-31 Thread Max B. Sawicky
I followed this a while back. She would stumble periodically into a tasteless remark, I think more out of insensitivity before the fact and unwillingness to admit a mistake after (understandable, in light of the attacks to which she was subjected). The upshot, unfortunately, is that she made

Re: [PEN-L] query: Cynthia McKinney

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Devine
Max wrote: I followed this a while back. She would stumble periodically into a tasteless remark, I think more out of insensitivity before the fact and unwillingness to admit a mistake after (understandable, in light of the attacks to which she was subjected). The upshot, unfortunately, is

Re: [PEN-L] query: Cynthia McKinney

2007-12-31 Thread Leigh Meyers
On Dec 31, 2007 12:52 PM, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Max wrote: I followed this a while back. She would stumble periodically into a tasteless remark, I think more out of insensitivity before the fact and unwillingness to admit a mistake after (understandable, in light of the

Re: [PEN-L] query: Cynthia McKinney

2007-12-31 Thread Max B. Sawicky
I wasn't aware the NBPP had any following at all, beyond the dozen you need to inspire some kind of lurid press tidbit. From what I've seen, the old Panthers are not fond of the NBPP. I once found a web site dedicated to their legacy that takes pains to distinguish itself from the NBPP.

[PEN-L] you've got to be kidding!

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Devine
from SLATE: the LA [TIMES] takes a look at how religion infused Mike Huckabee's governorship and would likely do the same in his presidency. The paper focuses on an instance in which Huckabee held up relief legislation after a 1997 tornado because he objected to the catastrophe—which the bill had

[PEN-L] happy new year!

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Devine
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-na-budget31dec31,1,526527.story Mortgage crisis takes a bite out of states and cities Tax revenue is down considerably across the nation, creating budget shortfalls and forcing hard choices on what to cut. By Stephanie Simon Staff Writer Los Angeles Times /

Re: [PEN-L] you've got to be kidding!

2007-12-31 Thread Michael Perelman
And God spake: Heck of a job Huckie. On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 02:05:44PM -0800, Jim Devine wrote: from SLATE: the LA [TIMES] takes a look at how religion infused Mike Huckabee's governorship and would likely do the same in his presidency. The paper focuses on an instance in which Huckabee held

Re: [PEN-L] Stone Age Economics

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Devine
At first, anthropologists were inclined to think this a modern pathology. But it is increasingly looking as if it is the natural state. Richard Wrangham of Harvard University says that chimpanzees and human beings are the only animals in which males engage in co-operative and systematic homicidal

Re: [PEN-L] Stone Age Economics

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Devine
The ECONOMIST: Notice a close parallel with the industrial revolution. When rural peasants swapped their hovels for the textile mills of Lancashire, did it feel like an improvement? The Dickensian view is that factories replaced a rural idyll with urban misery, poverty, pollution and illness.

Re: [PEN-L] Stone Age Economics

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Devine
BTW, I don't blame the Sentinelese for resisting invasions with armed force. The ECONOMIST assumes that people who go to visit them have good intentions and know all of the implications of the opening of Sentinelese society to global capitalism. If nothing else, there's the problem of bringing

[PEN-L] [Fwd: Howie Klein: How To Destroy A Profitable Industry In Just A FewEasySteps]

2007-12-31 Thread Carrol Cox
Perhaps this is relevant to a current thread. Carrol Original Message Subject: Howie Klein: How To Destroy A Profitable Industry In Just A Few EasySteps Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:35:31 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How To Destroy

Re: [PEN-L] [Fwd: Howie Klein: How To Destroy A Profitable Industry In Just A FewEasySteps]

2007-12-31 Thread Leigh Meyers
On Dec 31, 2007 3:58 PM, Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps this is relevant to a current thread. They didn't give connected music consumers any alternative to piracy. Absolutely... Further, Howie Klein posts/hosts the Late Night (YouTube) Music on Crooks and Liars: (He's currently

[PEN-L] Readings for the new year

2007-12-31 Thread Leigh Meyers
The Fable of Greebey Vather, Time Traveler Extraordinaire from Jesus' General by nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez [I see a screenplay blooming. Dealing with a favorite theme: time travel. You now think you'll steal this zeitgeisty gem from me, but you cannot because in the future, I have already

[PEN-L] Leon Walras and the Nobel Peace Prize

2007-12-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Kissinger's nauseating Nobel Peace Prize award might deflate some of the interest in beyond Leon Walras's nomination. Walras wrote his own nomination and had some colleagues submit it. The basis of his nomination was his work in mathematical economics. Although he wrote almost about free

[PEN-L] Download Dysfunction - When the RIAA loses its mind

2007-12-31 Thread Leigh Meyers
When the RIAA loses its mind from Crooks and Liars by Steve Benen I appreciate the fact that the music business is in the midst of considerable turmoil. CD sales are abysmal, record companies are losing a lot of money, and music pirating has become fairly routine, prompting thousands of lawsuits

Re: [PEN-L] you've got to be kidding!

2007-12-31 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Actually that makes some sense. It's a reverse Pat Robertson, as long as you don't get hung up on internal consistency (i.e., the Almighty unable to prevent a tornado). Jim Devine wrote: from SLATE: the LA [TIMES] takes a look at how religion infused Mike Huckabee's governorship and would

Re: [PEN-L] Leon Walras and the Nobel Peace Prize

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Devine
On Dec 31, 2007 5:07 PM, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kissinger's nauseating Nobel Peace Prize award might deflate some of the interest in beyond Leon Walras's nomination. Walras wrote his own nomination and had some colleagues submit it. The basis of his nomination was his

Re: [PEN-L] Leon Walras and the Nobel Peace Prize

2007-12-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Yes, almost nothing, according to the article. He was interested in showing how markets work, but free trade, as I understand it, usually refers to international trade. On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 06:06:47PM -0800, Jim Devine wrote: almost _nothing_ about free trade? -- -- Michael Perelman

[PEN-L] More Health Care Outrages

2007-12-31 Thread Michael Perelman
As if the health care situation were not bad enough, Business Week has an very good report showing how medical providers are signing unwitting patients up to transfer their bills onto credit cards that charge unconscionable rates. How much further can this crap go? Grow, Brian and Robert Berner.