Re: [PEN-L] Peak Oil expert

On 9/13/07, Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: whose picture is it? (some hippie with a guitar?) Moi? http://www.leighm.net/images/me_sm2.jpg

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Yeah, something like that, but a bit more personal. Let me propose this. So as to not burden the list, I will forward it to those who request it of me -- off list is probably better. And I'll start by sending it to you in a few minutes. Gene On Sep 13, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Jim Devine wrote: G

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Gene, can you tell us the point? whose picture is it? (some hippie with a guitar?) On 9/13/07, Eugene Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for the misguided attempt. I'll remove the mysterious photo > which none of you are receiving anyway. > > Gene Coyle Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e

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If it's on the web, send a link. On 9/13/07, Eugene Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for the misguided attempt. I'll remove the mysterious photo > which none of you are receiving anyway. > > Gene Coyle > > > On Sep 13, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Jim Devine wrote: > > > Eugene Coyle wrote: > >>> Lo

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Sorry for the misguided attempt. I'll remove the mysterious photo which none of you are receiving anyway. Gene Coyle On Sep 13, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Jim Devine wrote: Eugene Coyle wrote: Look at the tiny photo. Did this message pass through some content-removal filter? -- Jim Devine / "Segu

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Eugene Coyle wrote: > > Look at the tiny photo. Did this message pass through some content-removal filter? -- Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

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On 9/13/07, Eugene Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look at the tiny photo. No tiny photo in my copy. Maybe stripped out.

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Look at the tiny photo. Gene Coyle On Sep 13, 2007, at 1:57 PM, The Buffalo In Da' Midst wrote: Maybe he doesn't rely on anyone... On 9/13/07, Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did this message pass through some antecedent-removal filter? On Sep 13, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Eugene Coyle wro

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Maybe he doesn't rely on anyone... On 9/13/07, Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did this message pass through some antecedent-removal filter? > > On Sep 13, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Eugene Coyle wrote: > > > Some one I rely on for discussion of peak oil. > > > > Gene Coyle >

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Did this message pass through some antecedent-removal filter? On Sep 13, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Eugene Coyle wrote: Some one I rely on for discussion of peak oil. Gene Coyle

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Some one I rely on for discussion of peak oil. Gene Coyle

Re: [PEN-L] Peak (Oil) Math - In Defense of the Hubbert Linearization Method

The linear correlation, date and size of field, has been disproven. - Original Message - From: "The Buffalo In Da' Midst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: [PEN-L] Peak (Oil) Math - In Defense of the Hubbert Linearization Method

[PEN-L] Peak (Oil) Math - In Defense of the Hubbert Linearization Method

Courtesy of Bill Totten @ [a-list]: by Jeffrey J Brown and "Khebab" The Oil Drum - DrumBeat (June 25 2007) The Hubbert Linearization (HL) method (the Hubbert Linearization term was coined by Stuart Staniford, with The Oil Drum) is essentially based on the mathematical observation that a parabo

Re: [PEN-L] peak oil

No. What I am saying is that lifting costs are (largely) unrelated to peak oil. Discovery, transportation, upgrade and capital costs are related to peak oil if peak oil is properly understood to be the peak of conventional oil (as Hubbert described it) though the concept can be applied to oil plu

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n? Is it nature or is it capital? Is it supply or is it value? And I think careful analysis will show first, it is most definitely NOT both, and it is most definitely value. - Original Message - From: "Paul Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:

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oug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] peak oil > Thanks. The source I saw all those years ago did it by the barrel. As > I recall, it was like $2/barrel in Saudi Arabia. I suppose I could do > the math on this, but it'd b

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carcity" theory. - Original Message - From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] peak oil On Jul 10, 2007, at 3:30 PM, s.artesian wrote: Will somebody please, please look at actual lifting costs before banging this di

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http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/perfpro/btab17.html Once you factor out taxes and royalties, doesn't seem to correlate with "scarcity" theory. - Original Message - From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-

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1995-2005 at: http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/perfpro/btab17.html Once you factor out taxes and royalties, doesn't seem to correlate with "scarcity" theory. - Original Message - From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:46 P

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Energy Information Agency has them on its website. - Original Message - From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] peak oil > On Jul 10, 2007, at 3:30 PM, s.artesian wrote: > > > Will somebody p

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On 7/10/07, s.artesian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Will somebody please, please look at actual lifting costs before banging this dismal drum about running out of cheap oil? And how about looking at historical costs, including the costs in such inaccessible, sensitive places like the North Sea?

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On Jul 10, 2007, at 3:30 PM, s.artesian wrote: Will somebody please, please look at actual lifting costs before banging this dismal drum about running out of cheap oil? Where do you find them? I once saw, in a BP publication I think, comparisons of lifting costs around the world. But that was

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ng of conventional, light crude reserves despite the decline in production? -Original Message- >From: Paul Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jul 10, 2007 1:17 PM >To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU >Subject: Re: [PEN-L] peak oil > >I think that Hargreaves is out of her

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Paul Phillips wrote: What she is saying is that, Al Gore notwithstanding, America and China have no concern for the threat posed by Global Warming/Climate Change. (Does not the fire situation in the US west raise any concerns?) they don't _seem_ to care yet. interestingly, she suggests a new s

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I think that Hargreaves is out of her tree when she says "There is plenty of oil out there. It just happens to be in inaccessible and environmentally sensitive areas of the world. Oil companies have the technology to develop these reserves, but it is expensive. When the oil price is high enough, t

[PEN-L] peak oil

[comments?] Feeling peaky Deborah Hargreaves July 10, 2007 3:30 PM http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/deborah_hargreaves/2007/07/feeling_peaky.html The world could be facing an oil-supply crunch in the next five years, according to the International Energy Agency. The west's energy watchdog wa

Re: [PEN-L] Peak oil warning

Too hectic to transcribe the segment on Shell oil/Reserve replacment right now, but this just showed up on my site newsfeed , and says it all: "...there is enough to last about 40 years." "...the world's oil reserves are up to 80 percent less than predicted." "They (

Re: [PEN-L] peak oil vs. fish

I think Michael is absolutely right - "At some point, production must peak" since oil is a non-renewable resource. The only issue is when? I think the end-of-oil activists are probably correct that we are at, or just passed, the peak for conventional, sweet, light crude - the figures for the decl

Re: [PEN-L] peak oil vs. fish

Peak Birds, you hypothesized it, and presto! From Audubon, courtesy of ResourceShelf/Docuticker: State of the Birds: Common Birds in Decline Source: National Audubon Society Audubon's unprecedented analysis of forty years of citizen-science bird population data from our own Christmas Bird C

[PEN-L] peak oil vs. fish

David's point about declining fish stock and peak oil was interesting. Obviously, unless oil is being "produced" at a rapid rate the stocks decline -- At some point, production must peak -- maybe not next year; maybe in decades. My suspicion is that it is not too far off. Peak fish [a plug sh

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Not again! On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 12:28:24PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: > > Some of them, but a lot of them are also 9/11 conspiracists. Because > of peak oil, Cheney blew up the WTC, which paved the way for the > invasion of Iraq, giving the U.S. control over some of the world's > largest oil re

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hing. Anyway, I endorse fish supporters, and not the peak oilers. - Original Message - From: "Louis Proyect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Peak oil warning Carrol Cox wrote: And worse -- it doesn't make any

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istence practices in favor of commercial fishing. Anyway, I endorse fish supporters, and not the peak oilers. - Original Message - From: "Louis Proyect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Peak oil warning > Carrol Cox

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On Jun 16, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: The people who write about peak oil tend to be geologists Some of them, but a lot of them are also 9/11 conspiracists. Because of peak oil, Cheney blew up the WTC, which paved the way for the invasion of Iraq, giving the U.S. control over some

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Carrol Cox wrote: And worse -- it doesn't make any difference. I have never, _once_, seen a hint of a suggestion by peak-oil freaks of how the view can be embodied in actual political practice. My own view is that those who push the peak-oil thesis are actually quite frightened of doing any actu

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sartesian wrote: > > There is no argument about the destruction and brutality, the poverty, > produced in the extraction of the commodity of oil. Actually, I think > it's the industrial capitalist equivalent of the plantation sugarcane > economy. > > I don't know, however, what that has to do wit

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7;s first work in predicting hydrocarbon depletion identified the looming shortage of coal. - Original Message - From: "Leigh Meyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Peak oil warning > Still working on the transcripti

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fternoon, but It's not on the internet. I'll transcribe this evening. Leigh On 6/15/07, sartesian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Replacement rates and reserves are economic categories. Peak oil is > scarcity economics all dressed up with nowhere to go. > > - Origina

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-- From: "Leigh Meyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Peak oil warning > Replacement rates are a physical reality dependent on a number of > factors NONE OF WHICH are currently (or in the foreseeable future) in > favor o

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Replacement rates and reserves are economic categories. Peak oil is scarcity economics all dressed up with nowhere to go. - Original Message - From: "Leigh Meyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Peak oil warning >

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s on > development rather than exploration. > > Anyway, while I do not think the oil is running out, that is no reason > not to deal with the issues of waste, pollution, and destructive > expropriation of resources. > - Original Message - > From: "Leigh Meyers&

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o reason not to deal with the issues of waste, pollution, and destructive expropriation of resources. - Original Message - From: "Leigh Meyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Peak oil warning > It's been a number

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Leigh Meyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Peak oil warning > It's been a number of years since the oil companies have been able to > produce enough at the wellhead to prevent depletion. > > On 6/14/07, s.a

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t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jun 14, 2007 9:59 AM >To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU >Subject: [PEN-L] Peak oil warning > >http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article2656034.ece

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s.artesian wrote: Have supplies, reserves, "peaked," and no future discoveries, extensions of reserves, or new technologies to access remaining reserves (usually half the amounts actually extracted) will ever reverse the depletion? Or have supplies of the "cheap stuff" peaked? And if the latter

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atter, isn't cheap a social, not a geological, category? -Original Message- >From: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jun 14, 2007 9:59 AM >To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU >Subject: [PEN-L] Peak oil warning > >http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article2656034.ece

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http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article2656034.ece

[PEN-L] Peak Oil: Why 'Reserves', When Feedstock Is The Issue...?

Denial & Rationalization... That's why. The Saudis have reserves stored away (at cost) for use as a 'capacity cleanser' amongst other economic uses, but despite the fact that SA petro-projects continue at an unprecedented clip, there is concern: MEES Agenda: EPC Costs, Feedstock Availability Rem

[PEN-L] Peak Oil as 'Soap Opera': As the Gaddafi turns...

These are the days of our remaining oil supply... Gaddafi call on 'foreign aggressors' http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/0310/breaking34.htm Muammar Gaddafi called on Libyans to devote themselves to military training to deter "foreign aggressors" from occupying the country and steal

[PEN-L] Peak... Oil, That Is... PEMEX Cantrell - Peak To Pooft... 3 years

The Beverly Hillbillies: http://www.siglandia.net/Immagini/TF%20USA/beverly%20hillbillies.jpg Wire services El Universal January 31, 2006 For more than a quarter of a century, the cluster of platforms off southern Mexico´s Gulf coast has been the main source of the country´s vast oil exports,

[PEN-L] Peak oil and echoes of premature anti-fascism

The idea that the world is fast approaching peak oil production is very controversial, but perhaps nowhere more so than with oil producers. During the run-up World War II, communists who opposed fascism were later labeled premature anti-fascists -- an Orwellian sounding term which had ominous cons

[PEN-L] Peak Oil: It's going to be a bumpy ride

One oil platform down causes India economic grief. The Indian Express Friday, July 29, 2005 Business Day after, refiners, ONGC count mounting losses ONGC FIRE: Marketing firms may lose Rs 1,000 cr, production hit ENS ECONOMIC BUREAU http://www.indianexpress.com/print.php?content_id=75258