On 22/06/2010 09:07, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
I was going to suggest this too after reading PM's post. I would suggest
that for whatever reason a list operator was used on a scalar, including
a hold over form another language (Ruby and perl5), a warning should be
issued. Most likely to be an err
chromatic via RT did write:
garaud and I hope to have fixed this as of r16139, though he still has
some dynext and dynpmc failures on his FreeBSD 6.2-tobe box.
Can anyone still confirm?
I just synched to 16207, but the test suite produces the following:
Failed Test Stat Wstat
chromatic via RT did write:
garaud and I hope to have fixed this as of r16139, though he still has
some dynext and dynpmc failures on his FreeBSD 6.2-tobe box.
Can anyone still confirm?
Let me have a look and I'll get back to you.
David
--
"It's overkill of course, but you can never have too
Nicholas Clark wrote:
[...]
Suggestions for a better name for BIND welcome. 4 letters or fewer.
An alias, eh? That's like a nickname, isn't it?
Well, since you're asking, I propose
NICK
Nicholas Clark
PS blead source is at rsync://public.activestate.com/perl-current/
--
Much of the
Chip Salzenberg via RT wrote:
Is this bug still reproducible this even after removing everything
Parrot-related from /usr/local? (Also /usr/bin and /usr/lib if you
happen to have installed e.g. Debian's parrot packages.)
I deleted /usr/local/{bin,doc,include,lib}/parrot (or something very
clo
Shlomi Fish wrote:
On Friday 07 July 2006 18:39, Andy Lester wrote:
Those who disagree with Shlomi on licenses are small-headed and
ignorant. Got it.
Keep digging that hole, Mr. Fish!
That's not what I said or meant. What I meant was that someone here said and I
quote:
http://www.mail-ar
demerphq wrote:
On 7/13/06, David Landgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>> They strike me as the teams most intuitively recognizable and least
open
>> to misinterpretation.
I choose to disagree.
If so i think you might be disagreing with yourself. :-)
That was
demerphq wrote:
On 7/12/06, Smylers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
David Landgren writes:
> Expected and actual has a long tradition in scientific endeavour,
And are still sucky as they are different lengths meaning the two
outputs are offset on the screen making it harder to see th
Jonathan T. Rockway wrote:
I agree that "got" is generally a good word to avoid in formal writing,
but in a testing protocol I think that it's an acceptable abbreviation
No! Do not accept inferior substitutes, strive for perfection.
for "the actual result". Especially since "received" doesn'
Shlomi Fish n wrote:
I don't see using the X11 licence for my software as anti-social. Like I said,
But it is. You are forcing people to spend some of their precious time
to understand the ramifications of this different license, and consider
the differences between it and the GPL and AL.
Smylers wrote:
David Cantrell writes:
rsnapshot (for example) has its own code for traversing a directory
tree, its own cut-down Memoize, and probably a few others that I've
not found yet.
That said, I don't want to see those things go into the core, because
I'm in the "the core is too big al
demerphq wrote:
On 4/4/06, Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(*) Yes, I know that the core Perl distribution includes many modules,
but ask any P5Porter and he'll answer you that the core is over-crowed
and that all core modules that can be made dual-life should be released
o
Tels wrote:
Moin,
My modules are usually so feature crammed that they need a few examples
for showing what you can all do with it or to enable the user oto use the
modul without having to write/use perl code first.
Plus, the code cut and pasted from Synopses winds up with 8 space
leading i
Steve Peters wrote:
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:52:18PM +0100, David Landgren wrote:
[...]
/eg scripts are a nice "hands-on" way of finding out how a module works
in real life.
No distribution should be without one!
Unless, of course, it has an examples/ directory, which would
Hey! It's been over two months since we last had one of these suggestions!
I did battle with a module that shall remain nameless the other day. I
had a difficult time figuring out how to use it. In times like these, I
like being about to go to the build directory and p(aw|ore) through the
eg/
David Cantrell wrote:
brian d foy wrote:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hopefully it will be something like:
$I::don't::bother::to::write::portable::code=1;
;-)
Seriously though, I would expect things in Win32::* to only work on
Windows, things in Linux::* only to work on linux, and so on for many
Tels did write:
Moin,
[...]
So, MakeMaker should be fixed to generate proper META.ymls without the
kludges nec that I needed. Of course, Schwern wills say "patches welcome"
and I am not up to patch MakeMaker :-(
(The other way would be the META.yml file for CPAN to be generated, but
that
David Cantrell wrote:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Ian Langworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-14 18:15]:
PS. If you feel that sarcasm and satire are not best reflected
in email, I cordially suggest that you eat a helicopter.
What wine is more appropriate with helicopters, though, white or
red?
If t
James E Keenan wrote:
Rob Bloodgood wrote:
Adam Kennedy wrote:
Doesn't makemaker only like you if you have a single .pm file just in
the root directory?
And otherwise you have to have your lib files actually under lib?
lib/Tree/Splay.pm
lib/Tree/Splay/Node.pm
lib/Tree/Splay/IntRange.pm
t/01_
Chris Dolan wrote:
On Nov 2, 2005, at 10:19 AM, David Landgren wrote:
Chris Dolan wrote:
In the last year as a Fink maintainer (Mac OS X debian-like package
manager), I've come across a couple CPAN modules that have no
license information at all. It's very frustrating. I
Chris Dolan wrote:
In the last year as a Fink maintainer (Mac OS X debian-like package
manager), I've come across a couple CPAN modules that have no license
information at all. It's very frustrating. I've submitted RT bugs,
but one of them has been fixed (thanks Ken Williams).
To encoura
Fergal Daly wrote:
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/257538
shows a fail for Test-Benchmark but the fail seems to be caused by
CPANPLUS not installing dependencies:
Apparently it's a bug in CPANPLUS that stops it from keeping track of
grand children dependencies. @INC winds up
Dave Cross wrote:
David Landgren wrote:
Gavin Henry wrote:
Dear List,
In "Perl Testing - A Developers Notebook" it has a section on
Test::Kwalitee.
I can't find this module anywhere, nothing on the CPAN or on Google.
It would only be POD, I imagine.
Anyone know wh
Gavin Henry wrote:
Dear List,
In "Perl Testing - A Developers Notebook" it has a section on Test::Kwalitee.
I can't find this module anywhere, nothing on the CPAN or on Google.
It would only be POD, I imagine.
Anyone know where it's hosted?
Kwalitee, as in cpants.perl.org, is run by Thoma
Thomas Klausner wrote:
Hi!
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:41:31PM +0100, Gavin Henry wrote:
I have just re-read the summary of this list;
"A list for discussing and planning CPANTS, the quality assurance effort
for CPAN modules."
and realised this is the wrong list for my last post.
No it's
Adam Kennedy wrote:
Michael Graham wrote:
[...]
But I think a more useful measure of kwalitee would be a 20%-30%
coverage test.
Something like that sounds much more reasonable than a high number.
Of course, if you've seen the first third of the PPI talk you realise we
still have all the pr
demerphq wrote:
On 9/21/05, David Landgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I know I had my eyes opened by Devel::Cover. I thought I had pretty good
coverage in Regexp::Assemble. In fact I had about 60%. I lifted it up to
100% statement coverage (some branching and conditional paths are never
David Cantrell wrote:
demerphq wrote:
On 9/15/05, David Landgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As I was downloading the newest version of Devel::Cover this morning, I
pondered on the concept of 1 Kwalitee point for coverage >= 80% ...
I have to wonder about how you handle modules
Gábor Szabó wrote:
What do you think about adding a has_license kwalitee to CPANTS ?
Checking if the META.yml has that entry ?
This will penalise all the modules that use ExtUtils::MakeMaker, which,
last time I looked, does not generate the license metadata, even though
the module may clearly
Thomas Klausner wrote:
Hi!
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 09:30:03PM +0200, David Landgren wrote:
Yeah, but I'm loathe to dedicate two separate test files merely to score
two points of Kwalitee. As it is, I'd just much rather bundle both tests
in a 00_basic.t file along with all the othe
Thomas Klausner wrote:
[...]
The cpants analysis fails to recognise this as valid. What is it looking
for and/or could it be taught to look for this? I thought that it was
only looking for a string eval of "use Test::Pod".
It does, but the qq{} you're using isn't recognised by the regex. I'l
Andrew Savige wrote:
I based mine on the Test::Pod::Coverage docs:
use Test::More;
eval "use Test::Pod::Coverage 1.00";
plan skip_all => "Test::Pod::Coverage 1.00 required for testing POD coverage"
if $@;
all_pod_coverage_ok();
and scored the coverage kwalitee point...
Yeah, but I'm loat
Thomas Klausner wrote:
Hi!
Data using the new metric 'has_changelog' is now available from
http://cpants.perl.org
Ooh! my kwalitee improved :) except other people's kwalitee improved
more than mine :(
Thanks again to Adam Kennedy, H.Merijn Brand and Smylers for various
suggestions/help wi
Ricardo SIGNES wrote:
* "Christopher H. Laco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-15T08:23:57]
Would this look for Change OR ChangeLog?
Both seem to be popular on CPAN.
...and some modules have a HISTORY or CHANGES section of POD, and DBI
has DBI::Changes.
As long as you use a recent ExtUtils::M
Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 07:35:40PM -0400, Ian Langworth wrote:
I'd like to improve HTTP::Recorder. I've contacted Linda Julien
(http://search.cpan.org/~leira/) via her CPAN email address, but I've
received no response. The module hasn't been touched in over a year
and e
Michael G Schwern wrote:
[...]
That said, here's the main differences:
* No qr//. Even if you target 5.5.4 qr// still has lots of bugs.
[...]
Once you go through the initial pain of backporting its not too big a deal
to keep things working as long as you're not doing XS. qr// is the only
Ben Evans wrote:
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 02:00:57PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
Michael G Schwern wrote:
I'm going through some work to restore Test::More and Test::Harness to work
on 5.4.5, minor stuff really, and I'm wondering if its worth the trouble.
Has anyone seen 5.004_xx in the wild?
Konovalov, Vadim wrote:
I've just been through the should-I-shouldn't-I-support-5.4 with my
(painfully slow) rewrite of Compress::Zlib. In the end I
...
I always thought that Compress::Zlib is just a wrapper around zlib which in
turn is C and developed elsewhere (and in stable state for a lo
demerphq wrote:
On 6/30/05, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yves has some controversial ideas about what is and is not data structure
equivalence. I'd like comments on it.
Well while im disappointed that its considered to be a controversial
position (why is accuracy and correct
Michael G Schwern wrote:
I just went to go patch in the code ref stuff to is_deeply() and found that
I had unfinished changes to the diagnostic output. Remember, it was about
including the description in the failure diagnostics. So instead of this:
/Users/schwern/tmp/test...NOK 1
Tels wrote :
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Moin,
On Sunday 26 June 2005 07:18, Collin Winter wrote:
[...]
After tinkering with B::Deparse for a bit, I think this particular
"oddity" may just be a result of poorly-written docs (or, more
probably, poorly-read on my part). The module seems
Kevin Scaldeferri wrote:
My understanding is that inclusion on the Phalanx 100 doesn't constitute
any sort of endorsement of the modules. It's hopefully a statement that
the module is widely used, but not a judgment on whether it ought to be.
They are not endorsed, but they are considered "im
Ian Langworth wrote:
On 5/13/05, David Landgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So what I *really* think about Perl's test reporting is that the results
are shown in the wrong order, and that it would also be better to use a
less ambiguous word than 'got'. 'actual
Michael G Schwern wrote:
[...]
This is what I morphed it into.
/Users/schwern/tmp/duringNOK 1
# Failed test (/Users/schwern/tmp/during.t at line 5)
# got: '23'
# expected: '42'
/Users/schwern/tmp/duringNOK 2
Jonathan Worthington wrote:
"Juerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You both use "iff". What does that mean?
I believe it's to be read "if and only if".
Yes, but that doesn't explain what it means. Rather than me try to
explain it (poorly)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_and_only_if
David
Aaron Sherman wrote:
So hold on to your socks... what about:
@x @y;
This reminds me of AWK's string concatenation behaviour:
print "this " $1 " that " $2
This was nice feature at the time, but caused problems down the track
when they wanted to add functions to the language in a subsequen
Uri Guttman wrote:
[...]
i think so but i can't read larry's mind (nor would i want to! :)
XP = extreme programming
DBC = design by contract (or even designed by conway :)
MP = ??
Modular Programming
David
Mark Lentczner wrote:
All -
Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current design
of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators - well
over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a few
months to get around to drawing it...
http://www.o
Damian Conway wrote:
[...]
Hence, I would argue, one ought to simply mark it with a trait:
sub foo() {
my $s is retained = 0;
$s++;
}
Other possible trait names:
is kept
is preserved
is permanent
is reused
is saved
is stored
is restored
is irr
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