Thank you for your insightful comment Vijay. You’re right.
Perl6’s evangelists will typically be current Perlers who are running up
against Perl5’s limitations.
So I think you’ve circumscribed the issue: what is Perl6 for?
* Perl6 could be “better than Go” for microservices – IF it’s
I think a name change is too radical. And yet.
I think Steve has a point, though I don’t know what to do about it. The
developers in my little corner of the world may not be up on the
new-language-of-the-week, but even they see Perl as a has-been, write-only
language, so when their brain
* What's the counter word for computer languages, anyway?
-mai? As an abstraction from paper printouts?
From: Brent Laabs [mailto:bsla...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:51 PM
To: Aaron Sherman
Cc: yary ; Perl6
d it, with the "say" line it works, without the say the
server exits. no message, but this time I checked the exit code which is
141 consistently across multiple runs. perhaps that helps a bit...
regards robert
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rakudo and moar much more than get this working.
thanks robet
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I don't understand why some people feel so strongly that one-liners should
be strict. That would undermine what a one-liner is — a quick way to get
something done. I use perl5 one-liners very frequently for text processing,
especially when stringing / piping together shell code. When I need to
Please delete this obsolete ticket. Use [71456] instead.
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Subject: [perl #71454] AutoReply: Method 'prime' not found for invocant of
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# New Ticket Created by Robert G. Jakabosky
# Please include the string: [perl #57568]
# in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue.
# URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=57568
I have separated the bugfixes into different patch files and included one
# New Ticket Created by Robert G. Jakabosky
# Please include the string: [perl #57504]
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Hello everyone,
This is my first patch to the parrot project
Dear parroteers-
A small number of people have reported periodic issues committing to
the parrot subversion repository.
As of yet, we've been unable to create a repeatable test, find
anything obviously wrong that might be causing this issue, or even
logs that show a horrible error on our side.
.sub _other_meth :method
print in other_meth\n
.end
and to store the variables in some hash and access them via a C callback.
does not look right to me. so i am looking for suggestions or pointers
on how to implement such a language in PIR, any help welcome!
thanks robert
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:38:11PM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote:
Content-Description: message body text
This reports unknown method names when generating C code for PMCs.
WDOT? Is this the right place for it? Should it die instead of warn?
-- Bob Rogers
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 12:31:17PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: larry
Date: Tue Jan 30 12:31:16 2007
New Revision: 13551
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod
Log:
Braino spotted by TSa++
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod
Finally, the moment you've all been waiting for is here!
perlbug (http://rt.perl.org/rt3/) has been upgraded to the latest and
greatest version (RT 3.6).
Here are some changes you might notice:
- a new shiny look
- no more auth.perl.org, we now authenticate directly from bitcard.org
- a
I was going to suggest keeping an archive of this one outside the
repository, but it's only 2 files, so I'll just keep a copy for
myself. (I'd like to revive it at some point in PGE/TGE and the old
implementation could be useful.)
Nothing is actually _deleted_ from SVN... it just gets harder
the thing that generates the coverage reports
currently is C code or something? So isn't there anything CPANish to
do this?
K.
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Given the recent explosion of svn commits in the synopses, and the fact that
the versions of the synopses on the dev.perl.org/perl6 site are lagging a
bit, would it make sense to add a link to the svn site to the
Synopses page?
I'd rather not.
The ones on the dev site shouldn't have been
(If so, as a bit of background it's discussed at the bottom of #38217
on RT, and I tried to put together a patch in r11320 but I caused some
breakage so it's been backed out. I need to revive it)
Thank you, Nick. How do I get a username and password for RT?
http://auth.perl.org/
or just
I'm with Aristotle. I think it's an urge that's come out of the
development community -- specifically, *certain* development
communities -- rather than from an end-user desire for quality. Many
of the best -tested pieces of software are the infrastructure type
things that only developers
Applied in 11755, 11756, and 11758. (Ticket not closed; I don't have
permission.)
You shouldn't say things like that. You have permission now.
-R (pulling an Audrey.)
Upgrade complete. You shouldn't notice anything different, except
some operations might be faster.
-R
At Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:25:22 -0800,
Robert Spier wrote:
FYI -
At some point later this week, or maybe this weekend, I will be taking
the perl.org Subversion server down to move
FYI -
At some point later this week, or maybe this weekend, I will be taking
the perl.org Subversion server down to move it to different hardware.
This most likely won't happen until after the imminent Parrot release.
From an end user perspective, nothing should change. (Although we are
snapshots or releases. And, since a checkout takes about an hour (last
time I checked) I tend to be too lazy to fetch one just to make a patch.
Only if you're checking out to a Commodore 64.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp$ time svn co http://svn.perl.org/parrot/trunk
parrot-trunk /dev/null
real
Sigh. I wish it were that simple, or that funny.
$ time wget http://cvs.perl.org/snapshots/parrot/parrot-latest.tar.gz
real0m16.84s
user0m0.09s
sys 0m0.20s
$ time svn co http://svn.perl.org/parrot/trunk parrot-trunk
real 2:01:50.3
user 1:02.0
sys44.9
Does anyone else find that SKIP: { } blocks bugger up the debugger?
I'll be happily bouncing on the n key to get to round about the
vicinity of the failing test, and then blam, it sees a skipped test
and just fast-forwards to the end.
K.
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Kirrily Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http
... seems to be dead for about a day now, though I know commits are
going through.
Fixed.
BCCing webmaster at perl dot org, where this will hopefully open a
ticket.
THANK YOU. This meant the message got seen much earlier than it
otherwise would, and because of the BCC, no collateral
No, it isn't. =)
The mail list strips out .t attachments (Robert? is this necessary?)
We don't strip .t We strip troff attachments. Really, it's a bad
mailer that is labeling the .t file a troff mime-type.
I've removed the troff types from the bad mime list.
-R
are defunct, and I should be
looking at RT instead.
Any suggestions and preferences?
Robert
We've actually done a merge. It is complete. All committed changes
on the leo-ctx5 branch are now on trunk as of rev 9260. The leo-ctx5
branch was deleted as rev 9261.
If you have any checkouts of the leo-ctx5 branch, you will need to
switch them to trunk
cd
What happened to the Pixigreg site? I have not been able to get to it
for a while now.
Robert
thing
until I started reading the Perl Testing notebook that just came out.
It would not stop me from uploading though. I would either ignore it or
strive to get my kwalitee higher.
I did not look at any kwalitee levels for the modules that I have installed.
I need 'em, so I use 'em.
Robert
Grégoire Péan wrote:
Sorry Gmail hid your last email Robert.
I installed PXPerl. When I go to install DBD::SQLite I get make errors and
it won't install. Since I have never dealt with this on Windows, do I talk
to the PXPerl guy(s) or the DBD::SQLite guy? I am guessing that DBD::SQLite
Dave Cross wrote:
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 11:32:45AM -0400, Robert wrote:
I am creating my first module (finally) and I was told a while ago to
use Module::Starter. Which I did. I am fine there. When I look at the
code generated I see that all the POD stuff is inline while I prefer
to see POD
Just started here and I found PXPerl. What are the benefits of this over the
ActiveState version?
Robert
*nix friendly)?
Robert
or Windows (or a combo of them).
Robert
fine with that and will continue to chug along. If not, I will move it to
the end and I would make a request to the M::S author to have a command line
switch added to indicate which POD style to use (defaulting to whatever the
auther wishes of course).
Thanks!
Robert
I just saw that this morning. I have no idea where that email address came
from as that is a real old address. I will have to check my settings when I
get back to work.
Robert
On 8/6/05 6:03 AM, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tels
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Robert
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 11:53:01AM -0700, Robert Spier wrote:
Thanks, applied.
Thanks! However, the rendered form is still of an old revision:
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/faq.html
It was still in my staging copy. It should be up now.
-R
Thanks, applied.
At Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:39:42 +0800,
Autrijus Tang wrote:
[1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)]
Below is a patch to remove the first QA from:
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/faq.html
When I go to the donation page and attempt to make a donation, the
drop-down box does not give DBI as a valid recipient. Is it possible
several people may not have donated as they noticed the same results, or
maybe they did and it all went into the Perl Development Fund instead?
Updated. (Sorry for the delay.)
-R
At Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:18:38 +0100,
Roger Browne wrote:
By the way, the website
http://www.parrotcode.org/
still refers to 0.2.0 as the latest version.
Regards,
Roger Browne
The list server keeps eating my attached homework. Won't let me attach a
.t file.
This is because your mailer is declaring it to be an
application/x-troff file.
Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 11:43:53AM -0400, Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Go look at Module::Starter.
Seems it is not available as a PPM for ActiveStates Perl distro.
Please don't let that be an impediment. Install
On 5/6/05 1:50 PM, in article
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Peters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 11:43:53AM -0400, Robert wrote:
Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 10:12:14AM -0400, Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote
Leopold Toetsch wrote:
http://www.parrotcode.org/resources.html still has CVS and CVS
instructions mentioned. Please replace it with equivalent SVN hints.
... which are at http://www.parrotcode.org/source.html
Updated.
As always, patches for this kind of thing are welcome.
(You can
Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 10:12:14AM -0400, Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Is there an article on the current best practices about creating a module
with tests? I know there is h2xs but I somewhere in the back of my foggy
is the best
place to ask and I will re-direct my question.
Robert
I noticed that the favicon.ico for http://www.parrotcode.org is a Camel.
Can we have a Parrot for that, in order to do the many non-Perl Parrot
based languages justice?
Good idea.
I've put one in place. If someone wants to make a nicer one, I won't
kick and scream too much.
-R
Robert Spier wrote:
Doesn't work when svk is used to check out the copy. But in that case
svk list -R does.
Hmm. Maybe this should be a commit action and not a test.
It was under CVS. I'm pretty sure everyone ignored it there :)
Well, it always depends, how responds looks like
Well, it always depends, how responds looks like:
Committed revision 1234
*
ATT MAINFEST ERROR
missing bla.bla ...
*
This is very similar to what it did under CVS, although maybe not
quite as big.
Anyway, if this is
At Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:07:05 -0400,
Roger Hale wrote:
Robert Spier wrote:
Could that be added as 4th line?
Good ideas, all of them. I've updated the page to add that, and to
switch to bz2.
-R
Following Nicholas Clark:
bzcat svk-mirror-dump.bz2 | svnadmin load --ignore-uuid ~/.svk
Doesn't work when svk is used to check out the copy. But in that case
svk list -R does.
Hmm. Maybe this should be a commit action and not a test.
It was under CVS. I'm pretty sure everyone ignored it there :)
-R
Could that be added as 4th line?
Good ideas, all of them. I've updated the page to add that, and to
switch to bz2.
-R
Fixed hopefully.
$ find -name '*.t' | xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain
$ svn ci ...
Yes, that'll fix it.
Probably worth checking the mime-types for all the other files.
and that dam.. check in runs for more then 10 minutes now
Ick. The network pipe is a little congested today, and
I've disabled all CVS write permissions as part of the transition.
(Yes, this means wheels are turning.)
CVS will stay readable, but un-writable until tomorrow morning, when I
hope to announce SVN being up. The import is running while I sleep.
I caught I minor issue halfway into the previous
The conversion is done.
http://www.parrotcode.org/source.html
Have fun!
If there are issues, let me know, and I'll fix em when I get back.
Everyone who could commit before, should be able to commit now.
If you find things slow, it's because everyone is trying to check out
at once.
-R
The conversion is done.
http://www.parrotcode.org/source.html
Have fun!
Sweet! Is there any particular reason why everyone should use https?
Shouldn't http do for non-committers? Or am I nitpicking here?
Not really. http is fine for non-committers. But it was easier to
just document
I've disabled all CVS write permissions as part of the transition.
(Yes, this means wheels are turning.)
I'm all for something like this, though I prefer requires_libraries
instead. (Listing libraries distinct from applications is a grey area,
so best to put them under one term.)
Come to think of it, why not recommends_libraries too?
What is needed is some standard set of library and application
Same here.
On 08/04/2005 20:02 Ken Williams wrote:
On Apr 8, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote:
die NA: $reason;
Since, at the moment, we're having trouble putting together a system to
cover the possible reasons for an NA report let the module author
figure it
out. Its simple and
It was on parrotcode or dev.perl.org at some point.
Maybe that can be reused?
Our tinderbox.perl.org volunteer is working on it. We've been nudging
him, and he's got some cool stuff going on.
Due to popular demand, among many other reasons, parrot will be
switching to Subversion at some point in the next few days.
I've placed a test conversion at https://svn.perl.org/parrot-test/
(It mirrors the state of the CVS repository as of this morning.)
Please take a look at it, and make
Any questions?
I assume current committer bits will be transitioned over too?
Actually, this would be a great time to get signed committer
agreements from everyone. But, since that probably isn't going to
happen, I'll just move over all the bits.
-R
Is there a way tests to determine that a module cannot be installed on a
platform so that CPANPLUS or CPAN::YACSmoke can issue an NA (Not
Applicable) report?
CPANPLUS relies on module names (e.g. Solaris:: or Win32::) but that
is not always appropriate in cases where a module runs on many
The definitive answer is + -- the pod document at
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/synopsis/S03.html is out of date.
This has been corrected in the perl6 svn repository for some time
(http://svn.perl.org/perl6/doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod), but I don't
know the magic for getting updates in the svn
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 06:28:21PM +, Adrian Howard wrote:
PS O'Reilly will have a small book soon ?
Oh yeah, that's the developer's testing notebook Ian Langworth and
chromatic
are working on.
On slide 13:
This isn't a bundle. It just provides a list of modules, though I guess
something could parse the Bundle::Phalanx, thanks.
On 20/03/2005 23:43 Andy Lester wrote:
On Mar 20, 2005, at 4:18 PM, Robert Rothenberg wrote:
FYI, I've uploaded Module::Phalanx100 to CPAN in to
$CPAN/authors/id/R/RR/RRWO
FYI, I've uploaded Module::Phalanx100 to CPAN in to
$CPAN/authors/id/R/RR/RRWO/Module-Phalanx100-0.01.tar.gz
It simply contains a list of the Phalanx distributions from the project
web site at http://qa.perl.org/phalanx/.
It's provided so that anyone who needs a consistent list can use it
cpanratings.perl.org?
Ian Langworth wrote:
Fair enough.
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:37:26 -0600, Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd rather it didn't. What people think of as popularity is not what
Phalanx measures.
Let's not stir the mud.
Indeed curious. The first version was the gzip file, but utf8 encoded.
Double weird that it would only happen once. Did you do it the same way
both times, Jarkko?
specifically and Perl as well.
Robert
be about a
level 4. I am also on Windows (work) and OSX (home). How can I help?
Robert
From: O'Reilly Conferences [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OSCON Call For Proposals Now Open
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:30:03 -0800
The Call for Proposals has just opened for the
7th Annual O'Reilly Open Source Convention
http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/
OSCON is headed back to friendly,
Parrot is now listed on CIA
(insert-at-point (spook))
Ooo. spook's phrasebook is strictly US-ASCII. That's totally CIA-compatible,
isn't it?
Probably. But they're still after those computer criminals. And
folks who use laser pointers.
-R
Parrot is now listed on CIA
http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/parrot
This will track all future commits, making them available as a RSS
feed, etc.
This slows down commits a little because of some work the script does
to try and merge requests. I can tweak a little if people start
noticing a
Mr. Cowgill's computer did not send such a message to the list. (It's
not in the archive.) He sent it to you directly.
-R
At Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:27:51 -0800 (PST),
Ovid wrote:
OK, everyone send Mr. Cowgilll a polite message letting him know that,
in the future, he needs to not send these
While I personally like the idea, I think it is unlikely given how
much slower svn is on sizable repositories. Of course I have not
tried it recently, so maybe that has changed...
All that being said, I am in absolutely no position of authority about this...
This is, and always has been,
I'd like to see:
...
http://rt.perl.org/rt3/NoAuth/parrot/Overview.html
(In my opinion, the line-ending issue isn't a problem for Parrot in
terms of this test--it's legitimate to expect that you can process a
particular file, not matter what platform you happen to be on, and no
matter if the file happens to have been created on another platform.)
Also, the proper
Is there anything that can be learned/reused from libjit?
http://www.southern-storm.com.au/libjit.html
-R
Maybe there are some good links to Tinderbox or Bonsai or ViewCVS or they
are only temporarily down, I don't know, but having non-functional
references in documentation is not very good.
Tinderbox is temporarily down. Either Zach needs to fix it, or I need
to finish my replacement for it.
I understand Dan's view that parrot should be 100% self contained, but I
really think its silly to inline CPAN modules into our CVS repository.
I have a compromise solution, which might satisfy Dan.
1. I create a new parrot-external-dependencies CVS repository. All
external dependencies that Dan
does anyone know what happend with http://tinderbox.perl.org?
It is offline for quite some time now :-(
It died as part of the meltdown of onion a while back. It's on the list
'o things to get back, but it hasn't gotten there yet. I'll go nudge and
see what's up.
Last I checked, Zach was busy
on about all available platforms today, configure written in sh
- does proper cross compiler handling
- c89 handling is no problem
- everyone is used to configure/make/make install
Robert
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Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science
:-)
It seems to be a little bit strange to me that the ability to be
compiled on prehistoric systems seems to be more important than a
correct cross compiler environment.
Robert
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Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry
script could be ... quiet nasty.
Frameworked properly, however, such a script could work both for
unknown and known targets. (Robert is likely screaming: Your
re-inventing autoconf!!!)
How did you know :-) It's just my experience that people normally start
with thinking that they can do it much
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 11:23:36AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
No offense, but it *doesn't* *matter*. We're not using autoconf, as
the subject of this thread makes clear. That's not negotiable.
A really convincing argumentation.
Robert
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[ We're down a handful this week... but not by much... thanks to Steve
Peters for going through some of the old ones and identifiying things
that can be closed. ]
Perl5 Bug Summary
http://rt.perl.org/rt3/NoAuth/perl5/Overview.html
Generated at Mon Sep 6 13:00:02 2004 GMT
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:00:14PM +0200, Jens Rieks wrote:
On Tuesday 07 September 2004 07:52, Robert Schwebel wrote:
Would autoconf/automake be an option for the C part of parrot?
No, its only available on a few systems.
How do you mean that? You surely don't want to run the compiler
.
Autoconf handles this for example with --host and --build, using CC and
CC_FOR_BUILD in the Makefiles. I assume the variant you propose will
have similar functionality?
*) Configure probes environment
How do you probe a cross environment? The build process will in this
case run on i686.
Robert
to be
really useful for coding, but anyway. Being able to use Perl on embedded
systems would be pretty cool - it was never really possible with perl 5.
Robert
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Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry
Handelsregister
::RunSteps', 'cc',
'arm-softfloat-linux-gnu-gcc', 'ld', 'arm-softfloat-linux-gnu-gcc', 'debugging', 1)
called at Configure.pl line 376
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/parrot
--8--
Robert
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Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science
a Subversion mirror of the parrot cvs repository with
svk. Will try to keep it in sync until Robert have time to do similar
setup on perl.org.
So you could now use the Subversion repository (readonly) at:
svn://svn.clkao.org/parrot/cvs/trunk
web interface at http://svn.clkao.org/svnweb/parrot
on
that module, either.
K.
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There's too much blood in my caffeine system.
Matt and Steve's postings about their Parrot related blogs triggered me
to create 'Planet Parrot' - http://planet.parrotcode.org
It's an aggregator of:
Matt
chromatic
Dan Suglaski
It only has a link to Steve's blog right now, because he doesn't provide
RSS. (The
,
why burden new authors with it?
I raised this on [EMAIL PROTECTED] the other day in fact. Register
namespace is useful in some ways and not in others, it seems. The most
useless part of it is the published modules list, and IMO we should
get rid of the thing.
K.
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Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
At Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:05:34 -0400,
William Coleda wrote:
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Attached find a patch to http://www.parrotcode.org/examples/index.html that:
(0) depends on a patch I sent to the webmaster folks earlier adding back in the
docs/* hierarchy (a small shim of .html
there.
Thinking of attacking perlmodlib next, and removing a lot of those long
lists. I'm pretty sure we're better off pointing to web resources for
most of the gunk that's in there.
K.
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Fist it. It's my solution to everything
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