Re: optimizer?

What's the reason behind the request? On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 7:24 AM Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > $ raku --help > > ... > --optimize=level use the given level of optimization (0..3) > ... > > > On 7 Jan 2024, at 07:09, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < > perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > > > > Hi

A suitable task for Raku?

In https://youtu.be/L2jnRk2GYwg?si=ffds1MWsyZaB09HR Cassie talks about creating a language for prompting AI bots. Isn't creating specialised DSs a Raku strong point?

Rust community in distress

See https://youtu.be/QEnuzwCWpgQ This is not meant to be an example of schadenfreude. Rust is an interesting language, whose ecological niche has little in common with Perl's or Raku's. Its principal rival is Go, which is definitely more corporate. Alphabet already controls far too much. (Yes,

A conspicuous omission

If you read this StackOverflow article: https://stackoverflow.blog/2023/03/29/from-web2-to-web3-how-developers-can-upskill-and- build-with-blockchain/ and look at the languages mentioned with APIs, you may notice some missing. That could render them irrelevant to the future. What can we do about

Re: Upcoming documentation meetings

I think I had problems finding the audio options on Jitsi, and wasted a couple of meetings doing so. I'd suggest a "test" setup meeting, where the whole agenda is ensuring that everyone has all the settings right. Maybe set up a static video shot with background music to give feedback? On 2/2/23,

Re: folder size

This https://raku.land/zef:lizmat/path-utils might be what you're seeking. (So new the electrons have barely settled into their new orbits.)

Re: Problem defining factorial operator in .rakumod file

The cause of the problem may well need to be fixed for other reasons, but re-purposing an almost universal operator like "!" ("not") sounds like a thoroughly bad idea, the route to non-standard code. If you must have a factorial operator, what's wrong with defining "Fact"? On 10/14/22, Elizabeth

Re: steps of a path

> > That said, right now gmail is claiming whipupitude is misspelled... > An alternative is "whipitupitude" (the difference being the first "it". Given the examples I've seen over the years, there's a need for an opposite to "idiomatic", for programming that arrives at a solution by a Rube Goldber

Re: Ping Larry Wall: excessive compile times

Surely Jonathan Worthington (or one of the other people who've worked on the compiler) would be in a better position to answer this sort of question. Assuming that you write in a normal "interpreted-language" style, (i.e. gradually adding features, testing, and moving on to the next one, do you no

A natural opportunity for Raku?

In this article, "Every Simple Language Will Eventually End Up Turing Complete" https://solutionspace.blog/2021/12/04/every-simple-language-will-eventually-end-up-turing-complete the author points out an unfortunate tendency for "simple" languages to accrete features and morph into misshapen monste

Latest Rakudo*

https://rakudo.org/star shows the latest Rakudo* bundle for Linux as 2021.04 - is that really the latest?

Re: about binary protocol porting

Just to reinforce Geoff's message, remember Tony Hoare's "Premature optimisation is the root of all evil" https://effectiviology.com/premature-optimization/ as quoted by Rob Pike https://users.ece.utexas.edu/~adnan/pike.html

Re: Should I start learning Perl?

A great analysis of, and answer to, the question. Worthy of being enshrined in a blog posting.

Language conversion and comparisons

https://doordash.engineering/2021/05/04/migrating-from-python-to-kotlin-for-our-backend-services/ Obviously, it's too late to persuade them to consider Raku, but it's an interesting thought experiment to add that to the comparisons. I posted this to the Perl 6 group on LinkedIn, in the absence of

Re: Comparing Int and Num

What do these enormous numbers represent? On 4/13/21, sisyphus wrote: > Hi, > > C:\>raku -e "say 1.8446744073709552e+19 == 18446744073709551615" > True > > I think I understand why raku deems this to be true. > The LHS is 0x1p+64, which is identical to the double that the RHS rounds > to. > (AFAI

Re: Please create a Raku community channel

I'n not familiar with list managers today, but in old Unix systems it used to be possible to put a ".forward" file in one's home directory that would automatically forward mail to another address. Conceptually, an alias or symbolic link, so that more than one address ultimately pointed to one acco

Re: 'CALL-ME' Math problem?

> Doing so would, of course, be a very bad idea. But still, you _could_. Something of an understatement, I think. :-)* Seriously, this made me wonder if inscrutable error messages might be clarifed by a (reverse) trace of the last few steps in parsing. That would show you what the compiler thoug

Re: list assignment

The fundamental problem here seems to be the imprint of Perl's behaviour on the mental model. Assigning arrays flattens them into a list of their contents, which then gets used as input to the assignment. That means that more complicated structures, such as arrays of arrays need some faking. Raku

Re: Is the cosine page wrong?

ed fix the problem. > > Richard > > On 28/12/2020 15:35, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: >> https://github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3753 >> >>> On 28 Dec 2020, at 16:23, Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I just went to the page at docs.r

Re: Is the cosine page wrong?

I just went to the page at docs.raku.org on multi-line comments, to suggest a couple of clarifying edits. The pencil icon invoked a 404 from GitHub. When one goes to make a fix, and the fixer is broken, it's a bit recursive. Can anyone cure problem #1, so I can get to step #2? :-)* On 12/28/20, E

Re: I need help understanding ".contains" method construction

"Definition of invoke transitive verb 1a : to petition for help or support b : to appeal to or cite as authority 2 : to call forth by incantation : conjure 3 : to make an earnest request for : solicit 4 : to put into effect or operation : implement

Re: How do I address individual elements inside an object

Although it's a standard term, "class" has a misleading connotation of "set". Using the "fruit" example, the class Fruit should indicate a set of relevant properties for a fruit, such as name, colour, taste, size, possibly cost/kilo. Individual variables can be defined as Fruit-type objects. Then $

Re: classes and objects questions

Raku allows for several different programming paradigms; procedural, functional, (as in languages like LISP), and object-oriented. It is possible to write purely procedural Raku, while ignoring O-O features completely, though it does take some dodging. Object-oriented.programming first surfaced in

Re: The ,= operator

P.S. My apologies for top-posting in the quoted text, and my apologies to William for the duplication. On 11/29/20, Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Having a consistent ("regular", in the linguistic sense), structure > for something like the op= form is obviousl

Fwd: The ,= operator

Having a consistent ("regular", in the linguistic sense), structure for something like the op= form is obviously very desirable. It's so much easier to teach and learn a rule like "op= has the same effect, whatever "op" is; it takes the variable on the LHS, applies the operator to its contents and

Re: Subset w/ Inline::Perl5 RE as constraint

Can you provide some samples of what you are trying to match and exclude? There might be alternative solutions.

List name and raku installation options

As I was about to post my other question, it occurred to me that perhaps we should have a raku-users list, (and corresponding ones for the other, formerly perl6-flavoured lists? And now for the actual question. I'm experimenting with installing Raku on an ARM machine, (specifically a PineBook Pro)

Re: lines :$nl-in question

Possibly OT, the "-er/-ee" boundary has become corrupted in recent usage. I suppose "standees" in a bus might be tolerated, depending on your view of transit riders as active or passive, but when a jail-break occurs, the former prisoners should become "escapers", not "escapees". The prison author

Re: print particular lines question

That will golf a little (and improve it) to: $ raku -e '.say for lines()[3,2,5]' lines.txt but you have to remember that it's zero-based. I used the first sample file and got Line 4 Line 3 Line 6 "The three great problems of computer science: compiler complexity and 'off-by-one' errors". On 8/

Re: Pod6 examples

com/Raku/doc/tree/master/doc directory. > > Richard > > On 21/07/2020 15:40, Parrot Raiser wrote: >> Can anyone point me at examples of pod6 in use? I'm trying to relate >> the syntax shown in https://docs.raku.org/language/pod to actual >> results. Concise would be nice, tutorial even better. >

Pod6 examples

Can anyone point me at examples of pod6 in use? I'm trying to relate the syntax shown in https://docs.raku.org/language/pod to actual results. Concise would be nice, tutorial even better.

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

Perhaps with a grammar? On 7/16/20, Tom Browder wrote: > An opportunity for Raku golfers to show off Raku on the Debian users list. > > Best regards, > > -Tom > > -- Forwarded message - > From: Albretch Mueller > Date: Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 07:52 > Subject: delimiters with more th

Re: Rakudo+ versions quoted in the documentation

Wouldn't the responsibility be on the web pages to keep up-to-date? That would be more a matter of agreement on the place to watch?

Rakudo+ versions quoted in the documentation

I just happened to look at the raku.org and raskudo.org download pages, and noticed that both quote 2020.01 as the most recent versions. Patrick Spek's dist.tyil.nl/raku/rakudo-star/ has both 2020.03 and 2020.05 for download following that. Should the sites be synchronised, preferably with a mech

Re: junctions and parenthesis

It seems to me that arbitrarily changing the precedence of a function would produce a horrible maintenance nightmare. It would mean recognising what had been done, interpreting the first example found in a different way than any other code, then tracking down any other place the trick had been used

Re: just curious to know

There is potentially a place for Raku in education, as a language that can evolve from simple expressions in the REPL to one-liners, basic scripts and through to complete CS courses with the various programming paradigms (procedural, O-O, functional) and into language design with grammars. The cha

Re: changing name of module

Create an updated version, perhaps with an "rk" prefix, (preserving any text alignment, since "p6" and "rk" are the same length), then change the "pk" version simply to invoke the "rk"? Existing code should continue to work, albeit nanoseconds slower, while new code can be culturally consistent.

Re: I reproduced one of the errors!

I suspect that "methods" were originally distinguished from "subroutines" because it made the rain-dance about the new cure for all civilisation's ills and the heartbreak of psoriasis, Object-Oriented Programming, look more impressive. After one has seen a few programming religions launched, the s

Re: the state of the build and install instructions

Working with p.spek p.s...@tyil.nl on a revised Rakudo Star we encountered a problem with the Configure step; it might be worthwhile contacting him to coordinate any changes. On 5/14/20, Will Coleda wrote: > I think it's out of date, yes. > > Need a "make install" to install the binaries (by defa

Re: Rakudo Star v2020.01

it's going to take careful untangling, locating every reference to files before renaming them. On 3/3/20, Patrick Spek wrote: > On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 16:41:47 -0500 > Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I've managed to download 2020.01, and run it with an exp

Re: Rakudo Star v2020.01

I've managed to download 2020.01, and run it with an explicit path, but the directory structure that my script used to follow, is broken in some way. (I'll investigate further, to see if I can spot the change, but a required directory tree might help me find it, if you could provide one.) A fair

Re: perl6 vs ruby

> we use ruby for Biological data analysis. I wish perl6 should have got that > capability. Would you like to give us a sample problem,, to see if someone can show a potential solution?

Re: perl6 vs ruby

Since Ruby was designed to fix what Matz considered mis-features of Perl 5, and the motivation for Rakudo was much the same, it's hardly surprising they're similar. One feature of any Open Source product to consider when investing any effort in it is the supporting community. Though Ruby was consi

Re: Is LibraryMake still current?

With the name change to Raku, has anyone considered a naming suffix policy for modules? I don't have a problem with .pm6, and I don't want to cause an outbreak of bikeshedding, but some might consider it inconsistent. As an aside, I deplore the practice of identifying the language of a directly e

Re: Raku, docs, help [was: Re: vulgar?]

That looks like a great recommendation. On 12/9/19, Mike Stok wrote: > >> On Dec 9, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Curt Tilmes wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 10:07 AM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users >> mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote: >> On 2019-12-09 02:00, JJ Merelo wrote: >> > Other than that, it's

Re: Perl6 vs Julia

I agree with you. Improving an existing one is different, even if fixing the original does give turn out to produce what is effectively a new one. Addressing a completely new class of problem would also be different, but that would be moving up the stack.

Re: Perl6 vs Julia

Who initiated the project, and why? What deficiencies in existing languages are they trying to address? The belief that Yet Another Programming Language is the answer to the world's problems is a persistent, but (IMNSHO) a naive one. On 12/8/19, Andrew Shitov wrote: > Let’s not hide the fact tha

Re: comment on the new name change

Should users of Raku be termed "Rakuuns"? :-)*

Re: vulgar?

It has been said that any sound the human voice can utter is rude in some language. It is also rather obvious that people who acquire second and subsequent languages informally tend to learn a very high proportion of "taboo" expressions. (Possibly because in many cases their principal source is mi

Re: getting comb to return match objects

What do the official tests for this show? On 11/16/19, Joseph Brenner wrote: > William Michelswrote: > >> I went over this with Joe as well, and I was >> equally confused. > > Part of our trouble was we were playing around with the > routine form of comb (rather than the Str method), whic

Who's who of the ecosystem?

Raku is the product of collaboration by many people. Some of these are well known, but there are many parts of the ecosystem whose mavens are anonymous or obscure. When a problem arises, it would be nice to be able to direct them to someone knowledgeable, rather than essentially yelling them in pub

Re: Rakudo Star 2019.07.1

When I report a problem, I try to supply as complete a picture as possible, without imposing my filter on the data. So many times I've had a vital clue omitted by someone who "didn't think that X was important". With so many parties involved, it's not surprising that errors reveal issues entirely

Re: Rakudo Star 2019.07.1

generated by zef. The warning > already tells you which module the filename pertains to (Linenoise), > so I guess I'm not understanding the problem. You can locate the your > Linenoise module using the command below, and work from there. > >> mbook:~ homedir$ zef locate Linen

Re: Rakudo Star 2019.07.1

After a few difficulties caused by subtly different paths and version identification (like -n vs .n for sub-version ids) the download and installation appears to have worked, but trying the REPL produced the following error message: "I ran into a problem while trying to set up Linenoise: Failed to

Re: processing a file in chunks

CatHandle? Is that an alias for "tail"? :-)* On 10/22/19, Marcel Timmerman wrote: > On 10/22/19 1:05 PM, Marcel Timmerman wrote: >> On 10/20/19 11:38 PM, Joseph Brenner wrote: >>> I was just thinking about the case of processing a large file in >>> chunks of an arbitrary size (where "lines" or "

p6doc issue - #2387

https://github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2387 Coke closed the issue , but for me, "p6doc build" is still broken. It looks as though whatever was "fixed in HEAD" hasn't made it into Rakudo*. Could we have details (or at least an issue number) to help implement the fix, please?

Re: learning resources for perl6 beginner

Some books: "Think Perl 6"http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920065883.do "Learning Perl 6"http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920062776.do "Perl 6 At a Glance" https://perl6.online/perl6-at-a-glance/ (which Andrew did mention) On 8/24/19, William Michels via perl6-users w

Re: perl6's new name?

"5" is a version number of Perl. To run it, $/usr/bin/perl "6" is part of the name of Perl6. To run it, $/usr/bin/perl6. With the production version of Perl incremented by 2 every year, it's still about 35 years before the version gets to an inconvenient 3 digits. (Will there really be enough wort

Re: Downloading documentation

Hmm, downloaded to pdf, but at 1730 pages, maybe I'd better rethink the printing. :-)*

Re: Downloading documentation

On 6/21/19, Brad Gilbert wrote: > The specification is the test suite. That is true, but as a guide to learning the language, it has its limitations. > I believe you are asking for downloading the documentation as one file. > On docs.perl6.org there is a link for viewing the entire thing as a >

Downloading documentation

Is there a convenient way to download the Perl 6 specification as one file, rather than having to download each topic separately?

rakudobug failure

I tried to report a failure to rakudobug, which generated the following report from the mailer: - --- Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 15:59:32 -0700 (PDT) ** Message not delivered ** Your message couldn't be delivered to rakudo...@per

Re: lp0

ication's. On 3/10/19, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> How do I output data to a printer on /dev/lp0 (LPT1)? > >> > >> Many thanks, > >> -T > >> > > On 3/10/19 11:28 AM, Par

Re: lp0

Do you have the printer set up in CUPS? (Common Unix Printing System.) See "man cups". Applications shouldn't normally be writing to explicit device IDs. On 3/10/19, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: > Hi All, > > How do I output data to a printer on /dev/lp0 (LPT1)? > > Many thanks, > -T >

Re: Exactly what is type match?

> If you get a crash using it, I suspect you made another mistake somewhere. Possibly a compiler version difference? A perl6 -v output might be worth including.

Re: Performance of parallel computing.

Is it possible that OS caching is having an effect on the performance? It's sometimes necessary to run the same code several times before it settles down to consistent results. On 12/7/18, Vadim Belman wrote: > There is not need for filling in the channel prior to starting workers. > First of all

Re: More efficient of two coding styles?

On 11/15/18, Richard Hainsworth wrote: > There are two styles in Perl 6 to code this and my question is whether > one is more efficient (speed/memory) than the other. > First, define efficiency. Which is cheaper, computer time or programmer time? Is whatever is being considered a constraint of an

Error in p6doc build

Attempting to build the P6doc index produced the following result: - $ p6doc build Too many positionals passed; expected 1 argument but got 2 in sub build_index at /home/guru/rakudo/rakudo-star-2018.06/install/share/perl6/site/resources/C8DD97308D226DDE4AA60EA017CB6BB59F9AA625 line 193 in sub M

Re: words[] question

Would it be correct to say: [ ] aka square brackets, always surround the subscript of an array or list, i.e. here "n: is an integer, [n] always means the nth item, while ( ), round brackets or parentheses, separate and group items to control processing order, and identify subroutine calls, surrou

Re: Installing Perl6 on shared server

P.S. By today's standards, that's a pretty chintzy service; are their limits aimed at IoT thingies?

Re: Installing Perl6 on shared server

> I'm not sure which of these is limiting the compilation of rakudo. 2 out of 3 ain’t bad? :-( Unfortunately, they're && not ||. :-)* On 9/26/18, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: >> On 26 Sep 2018, at 06:03, Richard Hainsworth >> wrote: >> >> Further to this question. Support staff at hosting comp

Fwd: escape codes

-- Forwarded message -- From: Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 09:41:44 -0400 Subject: Re: escape codes To: ToddAndMargo Those (\t & \n) aren't "escape characters", (though the \ is an escape, so you might classify t & n a

Re: ->

On 9/14/18, Brandon Allbery wrote: > And then you discover <->. > Elbows?

Re: ->

Obviously, discussions about "->" will be easier if it has a name. How about "lance", or, if you want to be less martial, "poker'?

Re: .new?

> Do a search for objects. What do you mean? Into you favourite search engine, e.g. duckduckgo, type perl6 objects

Re: how do I do this index in p6?

https://docs.perl6.org/language/terms#Identifier_terms On 9/13/18, ToddAndMargo wrote: > On 09/12/2018 07:14 AM, Parrot Raiser wrote: >> Built-in constants: >> pi, tau, e, i > > Do you know where I can find the list ? > > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=perl6+built

Re: how do I do this index in p6?

Neat. The answer's round about right. On 9/12/18, Fernando Santagata wrote: > Patched :-) > say (e**(i*pi)+1).round(10⁻¹²) > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 4:28 PM Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just for giggles, say e**(i*pi) + 1 prints 0+1.2246

Re: how do I do this index in p6?

Just for giggles, say e**(i*pi) + 1 prints 0+1.2246467991473532e-16i which isn't exactly right, but close enough for government work. (You could call it really right, the error is imaginary. :-)* ) On 9/12/18, Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Built-in constants: &

Re: how do I do this index in p6?

Built-in constants: pi, tau, e, i perl6 -e 'say pi ~ " " ~ tau ~ " " ~ e ~ " " ~ i'; 3.141592653589793 6.283185307179586 2.718281828459045 0+1i (tau is 2pi, useful if you want to calculate the circumference of your tuits. Pi and tau can also be accessed as the Unicode characters. User-de

Re: A comparison between P5 docs and p6 docs

One of the paradoxes of documentation, and the teaching of many abstract topics, is that those with the most in-depth knowledge of the topic,are the least suitable to explain it, precisely because of that knowledge. They can't remember what it felt like not to know something, and they've usually l

Re: Introducing P6 into a P5 user environment

As an exercise, I'm porting some small coding utilities written in P5 to P6, and it's interesting how much less code is required, even using what I suspect will seem embarrassingly naive P6 code in a little while. On 9/5/18, Vadim Belman wrote: > Let me correct you in one aspect. It's not my comp

Re: Appropriate last words

exit note "message"; seems to work well as a substitute. "note" outputs the message, and exit sends the return code (1) to the OS, marking a failure.

Re: Appropriate last words

If I understand that correctly, "die" needs to be documented as always outputting the line number, and that for user-oriented messages, one of the other techniques should be used. Otherwise, this question is likely to come up a lot.

Re: Handing over control

But this: perl6 -e 'shell("vim sample"); exit' behaves acceptably. On 9/3/18, Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is Windows really that brain-dead? Pity it has to sabotage everyone else. > > This invokes vim successfully, but leaves an ugly error

Re: Handing over control

ne 1 On 9/3/18, Brandon Allbery wrote: > It's not basic: Windows doesn't have it at all, it has to be simulated. The > intent is that system dependent things like that should be external to the > core. > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 12:56 PM Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.

Re: Handing over control

n 3 Sep 2018, at 18:41, Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> In Perl 5, a program can hand over control to another with exec: >> https://perldoc.perl.org/functions/exec.html >> e.g perl -e 'exec vim' opens up vim >> >> What's the Perl 6 equivalent? >

Handing over control

In Perl 5, a program can hand over control to another with exec: https://perldoc.perl.org/functions/exec.html e.g perl -e 'exec vim' opens up vim What's the Perl 6 equivalent?

Appropriate last words

perl6 -v This is Rakudo Star version 2018.06 built on MoarVM version 2018.06 implementing Perl 6.c. In Perl 5: die "Message"; outputs Message, followed by the program line number. die "Message\n" outputs Message without further ado. Perl 6 "die" produces line numbers regardless of the line endi

Re: Introspection

Thanks. That's exactly what I wanted. On 8/29/18, Fernando Santagata wrote: > That's documented here: > > https://docs.perl6.org/language/variables#&?ROUTINE > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 5:51 PM Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Could s

Introspection

Could someone supply a link to a clear example of a Perl 6 subroutine finding its own name, please? I know there's a method, but haven't managed to produce an effective search string for an example of its use.

Re: OT: catch the bash error?

That's the problem with using multiple related-but-not-identical languages. If you aren't completely on the ball, one of the others may grab you by the ankle and trip you. On 8/5/18, ToddAndMargo wrote: >>> It is "do G=" not "do $G=" >>> >>> > > On 08/04/2018 01:14 AM, Laurent Rosenfeld via p

Re: need regex help

If I've interpreted this https://docs.perl6.org/language/regexes#Enumerated_character_classes_and_ranges correctly, ^ is "start of string" +alnum means "in the alphanumeric set" -alpha means "not in the purely alphabetic set" i.e. <+alnum -alpha> means "alphanumeric but not a letter", i.e 0-9_ +

Re: odd and even

The result of a modulus-2 is always going to be 0 or 1, so if you can put the "even" and "odd" results in a 2 -element array, using it as a subscript would be a way to achieve the outcome. On 5/1/18, ToddAndMargo wrote: > On 04/30/2018 06:47 AM, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > >> Perhaps this is a s

Re: Perl 6: Protecting Intellectual Property for Commercial Code

Frankly, if you're worried about this sort of thing, you have too much faith in "secret sauces", and not enough in understanding situations thoroughly. Code is trivial, implementation isn't. Back in the days of dBase II, I was a contractor for one ministry of the local government. They asked me to

Re: who own my code?

I agree that this is really not the appropriate forum for this. Type a question like "if I write the same code for several clients, who owns it?" into a search engine, and you'll get a plethora of links. In this case, I would say the fairest thing is to write the sharable portion once on your own

Re: variable size limit?

Donald Knuth was proud of getting an entire compiler into 1023 bytes. It wasn't a game of golf; the machine only had 1024 available. https://cacm.acm.org/news/175194-twenty-questions-for-donald-knuth/fulltext On 10/2/17, ToddAndMargo wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:22 PM, ToddAndMargo >>

Re: Any way to get hashes to loop in order?

Prepending the real key value with an order indicator, then sorting the retrieved list on the key would achieve that, (though the maximum number size would have to be known in advance. E.g. 001First_key => data1, 002Second => data2

Re: -f ???

>> In other words, I think we should change the Perl 6 spec to define .f as >> "exists and is a file". >> >> -- >> Mark Montague Mark and I appear to be having a vigorous agreement about the principle of Least Surprise. If -f X is defined as meaning "X exists and is a file", then obviously if

Re: -f ???

Discussing the full implications of these tests could probably keep a philosophy class busy for an afternnon. It might even rise to an LPU[1] paper. -e is fairly easy. It asks if something exists. Ignoring Schrodinger, either it does (i.e True) or it doesn't. (False) -f is more ambiguous. It asks

Re: user and group of a file?

This is the capability provided by Perl 5's "stat". Would a clone with the same properties and behaviours be the right thing, or are there "features" to fix? On 9/26/17, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:11 AM, ToddAndMargo > wrote: > >> Does Perl 6 have one of those fancy subs

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