Re: [Pharo-dev] [Inspiration] Toward a better programming

2014-04-03 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 02/04/2014 22:51, Pharo4Stef a écrit : On 02 Apr 2014, at 13:31, Goubier Thierry wrote: Le 02/04/2014 08:12, Tudor Girba a écrit : The language itself is less interesting for me, but what makes it stand out is that it has a coherent and robust philosophy behind and phenomenal goals to

Re: [Pharo-dev] I think the tree nodes should be based on name-matching and not only per-package. For example: In 4.0, let's query the Metacello configuratio

2014-04-03 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 03/04/2014 01:03, Igor Stasenko a écrit : cool +1 but that means we need a resident configs in image, which IMO is a plus. right now we don't. You can cope with a pre-existing classification for stuff already in the image, and configs for the additional stuff. Works. A touch is the abil

Re: [Pharo-dev] I think the tree nodes should be based on name-matching and not only per-package. For example: In 4.0, let's query the Metacello configuratio

2014-04-03 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Igor Stasenko wrote > cool Yes, very! - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Re-Nautilus-Package-Tree-tp4738896p4752462.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] af5386: 30809

2014-04-03 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
GitHub wrote > 13143 Integrate Versionner 2.7 > ... > Which include these:... Great job! Thanks, Christophe (and Marcus for integrating so quickly) :) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/pharo-project-pharo-core-af5386-30809-tp4752340p4752464.html Sent fro

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thanks to all of you who asked

2014-04-03 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Tudor Girba-2 wrote > I just read the news. > > I am happy you are fine! +1 to both. And thank you for letting us know you are okay! - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Thanks-to-all-of-you-who-asked-tp4752334p4752465.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk De

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: Re: Fwd: Font problem is still there

2014-04-03 Thread J.F. Rick
Cool. I just loaded the latest NB and Athens (as Igor sent around) but my image is not fully up to date. I'll try downloading a new one and reloading my work from packages. I just wanted to make sure that this was worth the effort. If that doesn't work, then I'll send Igor my image. Cheers, Jeff

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thanks to all of you who asked

2014-04-03 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Crossed my mind: create some visualizations using Roassal about the quake(s) in Chile and advertise your local biz presence. #datajournalism, This can turn big. Le 3 avr. 2014 10:22, "Sean P. DeNigris" a écrit : > Tudor Girba-2 wrote > > I just read the news. > > > > I am happy you are fine! > >

[Pharo-dev] strange creation time

2014-04-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I just stumbled across a strange piece of code, and I am wondering about the reasons behind it: FileSystemStore>>creationTime: aPath self nodeAt: aPath ifPresent: [ :entry | ^ self basicCreationTime: entry ] ifAbsent: [ ^ false ]. In what case does returning "false" make sense? Doru -- ww

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-04-03 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30810 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 1e1e45: 30810

2014-04-03 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 1e1e45faf48b5245176cde218225385cc2e8d76b https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/1e1e45faf48b5245176cde218225385cc2e8d76b Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-04-03 (Thu, 03 Apr 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Two fixes for review

2014-04-03 Thread Ben Coman
Ben Coman wrote: I am requesting that the following fix be integrated. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13065/Windows-FileSystem-test-bar-not-an-absolute-path This corrects semantics on Windows where '/tmp/bar/'  is not considered an absolute path name, so that gets located under the imag

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-04-03 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30811 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] a80092: 30811

2014-04-03 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: a80092aabb962bd0cca04b93df1b2f300973487c https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/a80092aabb962bd0cca04b93df1b2f300973487c Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-04-03 (Thu, 03 Apr 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thanks to all of you who asked

2014-04-03 Thread kilon alios
I was pleasantly surprised that you had not loads of casualties with such a big earthquake. And I was also wondering how many people are from Chile in this mailing list. As a Greek I have plenty of experience with quakes though none as big as that one. Should have been quite a shaking. I guess even

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange creation time

2014-04-03 Thread Max Leske
+1 methods should return one single type of object. The only question: what time should be returned? Or should it be nil? On 03.04.2014, at 11:12, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > I just stumbled across a strange piece of code, and I am wondering about the > reasons behind it: > > FileSystemSt

[Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
Hi all do you see a glitch when I resize a window? Because it is not really nice. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Tudor Girba
I see it on Mac. On Windows it works fine. I thought this was a known issue. Doru On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Pharo4Stef wrote: > Hi all > > do you see a glitch when I resize a window? > Because it is not really nice. > Stef > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange creation time

2014-04-03 Thread Tudor Girba
I think it should be either a NoDate object, or an exception. Doru On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Max Leske wrote: > +1 > > methods should return one single type of object. The only question: what > time should be returned? Or should it be nil? > > On 03.04.2014, at 11:12, Tudor Girba wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Camille Teruel
On 3 avr. 2014, at 13:54, Pharo4Stef wrote: > Hi all > > do you see a glitch when I resize a window? > Because it is not really nice. Nope, nothing in latest image at least. Does it happen in a fresh image? > Stef >

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange creation time

2014-04-03 Thread Max Leske
exception sounds reasonable to me, since you will usually know if a path exists beforehand. On 03.04.2014, at 14:14, Tudor Girba wrote: > I think it should be either a NoDate object, or an exception. > > Doru > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Max Leske wrote: > +1 > > methods should r

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Camille Teruel
On 3 avr. 2014, at 14:15, Tudor Girba wrote: > I see it on Mac. On Windows it works fine. I thought this was a known issue. Weird I'm on osx too and I see nothing. In what image/VM does it happen for you? > > Doru > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Pharo4Stef wrote: > Hi all > > do yo

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Tudor Girba
It happens all the time on Mac. It is not so obvious in the default Pharo image because of the background. In the Moose image, the background is white and you see it immediately when resizing or dragging a window. Doru On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Camille Teruel wrote: > > On 3 avr. 2014, at

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Camille Teruel
On 3 avr. 2014, at 14:21, Tudor Girba wrote: > It happens all the time on Mac. It is not so obvious in the default Pharo > image because of the background. In the Moose image, the background is white > and you see it immediately when resizing or dragging a window. I tried with many windows in

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-04-03 13:21 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba : > It happens all the time on Mac. It is not so obvious in the default Pharo > image because of the background. In the Moose image, the background is > white and you see it immediately when resizing or dragging a window. > > Doru > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Here it is on the very latest of Pharo 3: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hfi5j64e9kyim14/Screenshot%202014-04-03%2014.56.33.png Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30811 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Mar 20 2014 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlu

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Camille Teruel
On 3 avr. 2014, at 14:58, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Here it is on the very latest of Pharo 3: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/hfi5j64e9kyim14/Screenshot%202014-04-03%2014.56.33.png Ok, now I remember that I had that once several months ago, but I don't remember under which setting. I solved i

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lock-free Atomic Counter ?

2014-04-03 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 3 April 2014 00:11, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Hi, Is it possible to have a simple lock-free atomic counter in Pharo 3.0 ? nextId   ^ idCounter := idCounter + 1 Or is it still possible that two process entering th

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Funny that you do not see the same issues. I reproduce it consistently like this: - On 10.9.2 on a MacBook Pro with Retina display - Download the latest Pharo 3 and the latest VM and run it: curl -L get.pharo.org/30+vmLatest | sh - Open a workspace or any other window and drag it around Doru D

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lock-free Atomic Counter ?

2014-04-03 Thread Benjamin Pollack
I hate to bust this old evilness out, but is it feasible to abuse #become: for this purpose? I haven't used it in so long I don't actually remember whether that's feasible semantics with ivars. On Thu, Apr 3, 2014, at 09:08 AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-04-03 15:32 GMT+01:00 Serge Stinckwich : > This is this kind of glitches (see screenshot) ? > I already talk about that some months ago in the mailing-list. > Mine are usually more noticeable, but yes, something on those lines (pun absolutely intended). Cheers, Sergi

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-04-03 14:04 GMT+01:00 Camille Teruel : > I solved it with 'start drawing/stepping again' as Sergi said. > But I said not to quote me! ;-) Cheers, Sergi

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
that happens in retina displays. I’m aware… no time yet to fix it :( Esteban, still on holidays On 03 Apr 2014, at 11:32, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > This is this kind of glitches (see screenshot) ? > I already talk about that some months ago in the mailing-list. > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:11

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: Re: Fwd: Font problem is still there

2014-04-03 Thread Igor Stasenko
Okay. One more time. This is interference between Cairo and Freetype plugin.. if you using same font as rest of pharo (drawn outside of Athens) and then the very same font for rendering with Athens, then you will get weird font artifacts, because in-image freetype code uses different scale units

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
On 03 Apr 2014, at 16:42, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > that happens in retina displays. > I’m aware… no time yet to fix it :( esteban do you think that this is related to the VM? I would find that strange. > > Esteban, still on holidays > > On 03 Apr 2014, at 11:32, Serge Stinckwich wrote: >

[Pharo-dev] Puzzled

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
Hi guys I need your brain cells. When I execute the test testBasic | context process debugger printedString | context := [ 20 factorial ] asContext. process := Process forContext: context priority: Processor userInterruptPriority.

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-04-03 17:33 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : > Can all those with the problem report their graphics card? My System > > System Reporter > GFX Hardware Details are... > NVIDIA Geforce 630 here.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Puzzled

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
even using ensure: to make sure that the process is terminated it is not really working. I have the impression that there is a problem and that the tests does not really finishes but this is really difficult to debug. > Hi guys > > I need your brain cells. > > When I execute the test > > te

Re: [Pharo-dev] Puzzled

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
When I use | context process | context := [ 20 factorial ] asContext. process := Process forContext: context priority: Processor userInterruptPriority. [ debugger := Smalltalk tools debugger new process: p

Re: [Pharo-dev] Puzzled

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
| context process debugger | context := [ 20 factorial ] asContext. process := Process forContext: context priority: Processor userInterruptPriority. [ debugger := Smalltalk tools debugger new process: pro

Re: [Pharo-dev] Don't do this X(

2014-04-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Apr 2, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Goubier Thierry wrote: > MCWorkingCopyBrowser>>basicSaveVersionIn: > basicSaveVersionIn: aRepository > | newVersion waitForVersion | > waitForVersion := Semaphore new. > > UIManager default defer: [ > newVersion := workingCopy n

[Pharo-dev] endless number of call to initializePresenter when opening a debugger!!!

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
Can one of you do the following experience to let me know if I’m totally mad or not? 1 - Add Transcript show:'initializePresenter'; cr. in the SpecDebugger>>initializePresenter as below: initializePresenter super initializePresenter. Transcript show:'initializePresenter';

Re: [Pharo-dev] endless number of call to initializePresenter when opening a debugger!!!

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
Indeed this is normal because initializeAutoRefresh does not exist! So a nice endless loop. On 03 Apr 2014, at 21:21, Pharo4Stef wrote: > Can one of you do the following experience to let me know if I’m totally mad > or not? > > 1 - Add Transcript show:'initializePresenter'; cr. > in th

Re: [Pharo-dev] endless number of call to initializePresenter when opening a debugger!!!

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
And now I understand because we forgot to remove this message sent when removing the polling behavior of inspector. On 03 Apr 2014, at 21:23, Pharo4Stef wrote: > Indeed this is normal because initializeAutoRefresh does not exist! > So a nice endless loop. > > > On 03 Apr 2014, at 21:21, Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Puzzled

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
ok now I understand: an endless loop inside the debugger creation. I do not understand why we did not address it with clement because we open the debugger and other when we fixed the logic of the inspector (to avoid polling refresh). Stef On 03 Apr 2014, at 21:13, Pharo4Stef wrote: > > | cont

Re: [Pharo-dev] Don't do this X(

2014-04-03 Thread Chris Cunningham
Could it be that one of the processes called from this code is specifically setting the cursor back to normal? That would defeat the whole Cursor wait showWhile: process. Progress bars or other non-shared state do seem safer to utilize for core activities like this. -cbc On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at

[Pharo-dev] where is the jenkins monkey job?

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
Hi I would like to know if the monkey is currently running and not stalled but I cannot find the jenkins job doing it. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] where is the jenkins monkey job?

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Issue-Validator/ On 03 Apr 2014, at 22:02, Pharo4Stef wrote: > Hi > > I would like to know if the monkey is currently running and not stalled but I > cannot find the jenkins job doing it. > > Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] left over when resizing window

2014-04-03 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 3 April 2014 16:42, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > that happens in retina displays. > I’m aware… no time yet to fix it :( > > Esteban, still on holidays > btw, again and again i forgetting ask you to show me what i should change to disable "half resolution" mode while on retina displays.. i wann

Re: [Pharo-dev] Puzzled

2014-04-03 Thread Clément Bera
Hey, I remembered removing the initializeAutoRefresh code from the debugger. Perhaps I didn't commit that package. Or I forgot this one. 2014-04-03 12:34 GMT-07:00 Pharo4Stef : > ok now I understand: an endless loop inside the debugger creation. I do > not understand why we did not address it w

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: Re: Fwd: Font problem is still there

2014-04-03 Thread Igor Stasenko
Okay, i think i got it.. Here is what happens: - the font size is usually specified in points, not x@y points, but typographical points, which is 1/72 inch TextStyle pointsToPixels: 14 TextStyle pointsToPixels: 14 => 18.668 pointsToPixels: points ^points * self pixelsPerInch /

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: Re: Fwd: Font problem is still there

2014-04-03 Thread David T. Lewis
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:55:01AM +0200, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > there is one caveat, that if you really want to see exactly , say 16 points > sized font on your screen, > it is not possible without knowing the display resolution - how many pixels > in one inch (hence > #pixelsPerInch ). > Unfor

Re: [Pharo-dev] Puzzled

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
I’m sorry but I will stop working on this issue since I do not have time for pharo anymore this week and the next one. Apparently I’m the only one to care about this bogus logic so let it be but be prepared to have too many hanging process around. Stef > Hey, > > I remembered removing the ini

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: Re: Fwd: Font problem is still there

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
Igor I was wondering the following: ? But TextStyle is not about strikefont? Stef On 04 Apr 2014, at 02:55, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Okay, i think i got it.. > > Here is what happens: > - the font size is usually specified in points, not x@y points, but > typographical points, > which is > 1

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: Re: Fwd: Font problem is still there

2014-04-03 Thread Pharo4Stef
> > I don't think there is any way for the VM to know the #pixelsPerInch of the > display, regardless of the display resolution. There is no api in the OS for that? It would be really strange that we cannot know such information. > Maybe that implies that some > calibration would be needed in t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Puzzled

2014-04-03 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
It is hard for everyone to get a complex issue cleanly integrated. On 04 Apr 2014, at 08:30, Pharo4Stef wrote: > I’m sorry but I will stop working on this issue since I do not have time for > pharo anymore this week and the next one. > Apparently I’m the only one to care about this bogus logic