Re: [Pharo-dev] Doubt in Pharo | Newbie

2014-07-15 Thread stepharo
Superb! I like the two proposals :) On 15/7/14 08:47, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: Already answered here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24750371/dictionary-to-string On 15 Jul 2014, at 08:00, Dokania, Harshit wrote: Hello All, I am trying to create a database table using pharo, sqlite. I have

[Pharo-dev] Busy week :)

2014-07-15 Thread stepharo
http://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2014/07/15/another-busy-week-in-pharoland/ Such list is always providing a warm and positive feeling. Thanks you for your contributions. 40084 13548 Move LabelMorph, FuzzyLabelMorph and MultistateLabelMorph to the Package of StringMorph https://pharo.fogbugz.c

[Pharo-dev] Package Dependencies Analyzer

2014-07-15 Thread Baptiste Quide
Hello Pharo developers, let me introduce a new tool that I developed in the RMOD team: package dependencies analyzer. This project provides a tool able to analyze Smalltalk project packages and detect dependencies to other packages. It enables automatic dependency analysis to detect wrong pr

Re: [Pharo-dev] Package Dependencies Analyzer

2014-07-15 Thread Norbert Hartl
Great. I was about to write myself a little tool. thanks for that, Norbert Am 15.07.2014 um 10:31 schrieb Baptiste Quide : > Hello Pharo developers, > > let me introduce a new tool that I developed in the RMOD team: package > dependencies analyzer. > > This project provides a tool able to an

Re: [Pharo-dev] Doc of mustache

2014-07-15 Thread Norbert Hartl
Stef, thanks for that important work. There is hopefully more to come. The current implementation reflects the mustache spec to a big extent. There are people (like Damien) that would like to see extensions to it. SoI hope I find (some time and) a way to make it extendable while keeping the ori

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-07-15 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40085 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 186a7d: 40085

2014-07-15 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 186a7da818ee90092420c2973a1c59355cd04920 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/186a7da818ee90092420c2973a1c59355cd04920 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-07-15 (Tue, 15 Jul 2014

[Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread Goubier Thierry
I'm scanning a bit among scientific / computation languages (including GUIs) and I'd like to know if some work has been done on interactive notebooks gui concepts? I'm thinking of something like: http://ipython.org/notebook.html I know that the Pharo text editing capabilities are not up to tha

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread Ben Coman
Goubier Thierry wrote: I'm scanning a bit among scientific / computation languages (including GUIs) and I'd like to know if some work has been done on interactive notebooks gui concepts? I'm thinking of something like: http://ipython.org/notebook.html I know that the Pharo text editing capabi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 15/07/2014 14:05, Ben Coman a écrit : Goubier Thierry wrote: I'm scanning a bit among scientific / computation languages (including GUIs) and I'd like to know if some work has been done on interactive notebooks gui concepts? I'm thinking of something like: http://ipython.org/notebook.html

[Pharo-dev] STON questions

2014-07-15 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hi, I read the STON paper and the STON chapter in EnterprisePharo but I did not find answers to some questions: how do you tell STON to not serialize some variables of an object? is there a way to avoid the class tag? What I mean is that I would like a synthetic STON String. If a STON entry has

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi: On 15 Jul 2014, at 13:33, Goubier Thierry wrote: > I'm scanning a bit among scientific / computation languages (including GUIs) > and I'd like to know if some work has been done on interactive notebooks gui > concepts? > > I’m thinking of something like: http://ipython.org/notebook.html

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 15/07/2014 15:19, Stefan Marr a écrit : Hi: On 15 Jul 2014, at 13:33, Goubier Thierry wrote: I'm scanning a bit among scientific / computation languages (including GUIs) and I'd like to know if some work has been done on interactive notebooks gui concepts? I’m thinking of something li

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread Nicolas Cellier
We had this kind of workbook 20 years ago in VW with mathematical formulae and graphics (plot) embedded. What we did was to avoid continous scrolling of the whole document, but rather have the plan of the document on the left pane of the notebook (just an indented tree like word navigation mode), a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread Goubier Thierry
I've never seen that in VW. But your feedback is interesting; maybe there is something to look at. I wonder if looking at some of the GTPlayground stuff with another angle could be interesting (i.e. page approach) or simply study what could be done if we could capture a task by embedding morph

Re: [Pharo-dev] consideration of Smalltalk "DoIt"

2014-07-15 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
I would use "Evaluate". And even go a little bit further, and propose a rename of "DoIt" to "Evaluate". The command line handler is "EvaluateCommandLineHandler". Dolphin used "evaluate", it feels natural even for not-native English speakers like me. Also, REPL stands for read-EVAL-print-loop. So

[Pharo-dev] consideration of Smalltalk "DoIt"

2014-07-15 Thread Ben Coman
Mostly I take for granted that "DoIt" has always been the way to evaluate things with Smalltalk, however I find it awkward to use in writing a tutorial. Some examples... * After saving, select "Grid new" and "DoIt" -- this sounds awkward, and even that you might need select the latter as we

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread stepharo
Thierry I can tell you that I got a demo made by gary chambers and this is impressive and all done in Pharo. In addition with the new text model, it will really change the situation. Stef On 15/7/14 13:33, Goubier Thierry wrote: I'm scanning a bit among scientific / computation languages (inc

Re: [Pharo-dev] consideration of Smalltalk "DoIt"

2014-07-15 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Having evaluate wont hurt but I would NOT remove the traditional do it For sentences with it, I would alternate between Evaluate 'Grid new' and remember that doIt is a message send and button/command like "select 'Grid new' and 'Do it' from the menu" some smalltalk IDEs can say "select 'Gri

Re: [Pharo-dev] consideration of Smalltalk "DoIt"

2014-07-15 Thread stepharo
In general I banned evaluate from the book vocabulary because people think that this is slower. I saw teachers writing that smalltalk is interpreted and java compiled :). I use execute. On 15/7/14 19:20, Ben Coman wrote: Mostly I take for granted that "DoIt" has always been the way to evalua

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread GOUBIER Thierry
Demo of what? New GUI, new text editor? Thierry De : Pharo-dev [pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] de la part de stepharo [steph...@free.fr] Envoyé : mardi 15 juillet 2014 20:00 À : Pharo Development List Objet : Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook Thier

Re: [Pharo-dev] consideration of Smalltalk "DoIt"

2014-07-15 Thread kilon alios
In python there is eval() which evaluates and there is exec() which executes The difference is that one calculates a value which it returns , the other executes code. Personally I find "do it" very good choice because it makes clear what you referring to , in contrast "evaluate" and "execute" ca

Re: [Pharo-dev] Busy week :)

2014-07-15 Thread Craig Latta
> http://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2014/07/15/another-busy-week- > in-pharoland Cool! Typos: “without being forced” (not “without been forced”) and “thank you for your contributions” (not “thanks you”). -C -- Craig Latta http://netjam.org/cv +31 6 2757 7177 (SMS ok) + 1 415 287 3547 (n

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread kilon alios
I have tried to make something similar with Rubric example of Workspace. My dream is a Super Workspace to replace all IDE tools inside pharo, system browser, Monticello, inspector, debugger , versioner , etc inspired by emacs and of course ipython. I am still working on it from time to time, but i

Re: [Pharo-dev] consideration of Smalltalk "DoIt"

2014-07-15 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
I find the "... it" suffix obsolete. "Delete it", "Do it", "Print it", etc. Maybe it made sense in the past, but today it feels weird. There is no "Cut it", "Paste it", etc... nor similar in other software. IMO, if the menu is contextual, the context already applies the "it" (subject). Regards.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Busy week :)

2014-07-15 Thread stepharo
Thank you :) I fixed them. On 15/7/14 20:17, Craig Latta wrote: http://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2014/07/15/another-busy-week- in-pharoland Cool! Typos: “without being forced” (not “without been forced”) and “thank you for your contributions” (not “thanks you”). -C -- Craig Latta http:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-07-15 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40086 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] d8b814: 40087

2014-07-15 Thread GitHub
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[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-07-15 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40087 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 23ba99: 40086

2014-07-15 Thread GitHub
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2014-07-15 17:34 GMT+02:00 Goubier Thierry : > I've never seen that in VW. But your feedback is interesting; maybe there > is something to look at. > > No, sorry for misunderstanding, it was closed source developments in VW... > I wonder if looking at some of the GTPlayground stuff with another

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Indeed, this is where we want to go with the GTPlayground next :). The idea is to have multiple segments that can be previewed and that are stacked on one another. Modifying an upper segment leads to reevaluating the lower ones. @Thierry: would you like to join efforts? Cheers, Doru On T

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread GOUBIER Thierry
I'm not sure about the replacing everything at once. Good tools doing exactly what they are intended for are great; the ability to switch easily from one tool to another allows for very focused work, where you switch from one task to another, and reduce your cognitive overhead because you don't

Re: [Pharo-dev] consideration of Smalltalk "DoIt"

2014-07-15 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2014-07-15 20:27 GMT+02:00 Esteban A. Maringolo : > I find the "... it" suffix obsolete. "Delete it", "Do it", "Print it", etc. > > Maybe it made sense in the past, but today it feels weird. > > There is no "Cut it", "Paste it", etc... nor similar in other software. > IMO, if the menu is contextua

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread GOUBIER Thierry
No worries. What I wrote in VW 20 years ago is not available anymore either ;) But it could have been used to build a interactive notebook :( Thierry De : Pharo-dev [pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] de la part de Nicolas Cellier [nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread GOUBIER Thierry
Hi Doru, I'd be interested, yes, especially if there is a way to hook or build IDEs for other languages / DSLs. And the underlying abstraction which would allow one to understand and manipulate how the stacked environments are linked to each other. Thierry De :

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread kilon alios
Well at least for me , the one thing I don't like about Pharo is the "window hell" . Even with window groups , which by the way are a great addition , is easy to get lost and feel uncomfortable. As I said I am inspired by emacs , I like its workflow very much and it will be great if I manage to br

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interactive Notebook

2014-07-15 Thread GOUBIER Thierry
Then go for your enhanced workspace :) Making good tools in my experience takes a lot of time, refining details here and there, but it's really worth it because it changes the way you work. I can't relate too much to Emacs, I allways found it a too huge investment (shortcuts, configuration time

Re: [Pharo-dev] consideration of Smalltalk "DoIt"

2014-07-15 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-07-15 17:30 GMT-03:00 Nicolas Cellier : > 2014-07-15 20:27 GMT+02:00 Esteban A. Maringolo : > >> I find the "... it" suffix obsolete. "Delete it", "Do it", "Print it", >> etc. >> >> Maybe it made sense in the past, but today it feels weird. >> There is no "Cut it", "Paste it", etc... nor simil

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] Ephestos - Using and Coding Blender from inside Pharo

2014-07-15 Thread kilon alios
Its far from production ready but I am too excited to keep to myself. I present to you Ephestos. Ephestos is a socket bridge that communicates with Blender the most popular and most powerful open source 3d application. http://www.blender.org/ The goal is to expose Blender coders to the power of

[Pharo-dev] Can i be added to Pharo/Pharo40Inbox?

2014-07-15 Thread Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras
hi all, i don't have access to the inbox, could someone add me to the project, please? my username is vonbecmann. MCSmalltalkhubRepository owner: 'Pharo' project: 'Pharo40Inbox' user: '' password: '' Thanks. -- Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South Ameri

Re: [Pharo-dev] consideration of Smalltalk "DoIt"

2014-07-15 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:50 PM, "Esteban A. Maringolo" wrote: > 2014-07-15 17:30 GMT-03:00 Nicolas Cellier > : >> 2014-07-15 20:27 GMT+02:00 Esteban A. Maringolo : >> >>> I find the "... it" suffix obsolete. "Delete it", "Do it", "Print it", >>> etc. >>> >>> Maybe it made sense in the past, bu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Can i be added to Pharo/Pharo40Inbox?

2014-07-15 Thread Marcus Denker
On 16 Jul 2014, at 00:41, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: > hi all, > i don't have access to the inbox, could someone add me to the project, > please? > my username is vonbecmann. > > MCSmalltalkhubRepository > owner: 'Pharo' > project: 'Pharo40Inbox' > user: '' > passw