Re: [Pharo-dev] call for help: answer on HN :)

2018-04-07 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
yeah the guy (martin whatever) is a troll, if I remember correctly its the same dude we had on the reddit forum for Smalltalk that has been attacking Pharo with pure lies. He is a typical troll that blows off steam by annoying other people. I am with Stef with this one, the only way to win against

Re: [Pharo-dev] Discord server vanished!

2018-03-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
at 11:40, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > https://discord.gg/gtKeHne > > > I updated the link on http://pharo.org/community > > Marcus >

[Pharo-dev] Please rejoin Discord

2018-03-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Hey guys after my mistake we got "hacked" and someone banned all our members in Discord I have revoked all the bans but you will have to rejoin . Existing join links are still valid , if you dont have one here is one https://discord.gg/gtKeHne My apologies for this inconvenience, I am still expl

Re: [Pharo-dev] Discord server vanished!

2018-03-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
t 12:40 PM Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > just in case you cannot join back, here is a new invite that never expires > > https://discord.gg/gtKeHne > > Again my apologies for this inconvenience > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:37 PM Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > >> all bans

Re: [Pharo-dev] Discord server vanished!

2018-03-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
just in case you cannot join back, here is a new invite that never expires https://discord.gg/gtKeHne Again my apologies for this inconvenience On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:37 PM Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > all bans have been revoked you should be able now to join the server , if > not

Re: [Pharo-dev] Discord server vanished!

2018-03-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
all bans have been revoked you should be able now to join the server , if not please report it here On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:14 PM Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Yeap I am lazy an I found a mouse recorder to do this automatically for me > , having to unban 933 members it’s not fun to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Discord server vanished!

2018-03-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
t. > > we are very sorry for this disturbance in the force :) > > Esteban > > > On 10 Mar 2018, at 10:26, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > > But, where is the server? > > Phil > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > >> That&#x

Re: [Pharo-dev] Discord server vanished!

2018-03-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
That's my bad, apparently when I transferred ownership to Esteban I forgot to remove the moderation role from my bot Lighthouse. I also made the stupid mistake to post security tokens inside the source of the bot I published in github. Unfortunately I cannot remove the bot because moderation role

Re: [Pharo-dev] About values....

2018-01-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 11:28 PM Stephane Ducasse wrote: > https://youtu.be/keCwRdbwNQY > > I would love to have $ to market Pharo but I like this talk > > Stef > > Let's be sincere here, there would have been no Apple without Steve. Ironically even Steve was not aware of his massive importance.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Hello, Im and a litle confused. Can you help me get started please?

2018-01-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
You got a secret weapon A nuclear weapon The ability to ask questions. Anything you don’t understand ask a question Anything you think you understand ask a question Anything you sure you understand ask a question Then keep asking until you fill the mailing lists with question People hate askin

Re: [Pharo-dev] Simple game framework

2017-12-29 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Problem is that people , coders and users, tend to underestimate the complexity of game development. 99% of the technology we use nowadays is game based. Powerful GPUs utilized by consumer computers and supercomputer alike to deal with highly complex problems like cancer research and simulations

Re: [Pharo-dev] Best wishes for 2018

2017-12-29 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Can’t imagine myself ever coming remotely close to hating you. Big thanks to you and the rest of the community for keeping the dream alive and kicking. Looking back to 2011 when I first joined, Pharo has come a long way and nowadays it looks and is comparable to other far more popular languages and

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 3:18 PM Torsten Bergmann wrote: > A GUI builder is always a nice thing ... and there already was an attempt > for Pharo: > > http://www.squeaksource.com/UIBuilder/ > > Now marked as "Failed attempt of develop a UI builder for Pharo-Smalltalk. > That version > only works

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-24 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
For me 100% bootstrap and anything that helps me minimize the image or completely get rid of it. Second place is a GUI designer. Third place, world peace. Santa hates me :D On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 8:14 PM Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hi. > > Not blocking FFI, please > > 2017-12-23 17:58 GMT+01:0

Re: [Pharo-dev] create snapshots out of github based packages

2017-12-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
nice to hear that my very old complaint about filetrees habit of breaking down everything to small files has caught and there is even a project I am not aware of that deal with this. Though my motivation was mostly readability and not speed of loading. Great work! :) On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 11:35

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

2017-11-23 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:03 PM Juraj Kubelka wrote: > > On Nov 21, 2017, at 19:54, Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > > Well done :) > > Now you can make a discord client inside the Pharo image if you want. > > > Exactly :-) I am looking for integrations that impr

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

2017-11-21 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Well done :) Now you can make a discord client inside the Pharo image if you want. On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 21:03, Juraj Kubelka wrote: > Hi, > > the TechTalk record is available at the same link: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA > and includes outline to simplify navigation. > > Chee

Re: [Pharo-dev] ExternalAddress uniqueness (was Re: Call for help for stability and rewrite of FreeType)

2017-11-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Its the usual case of not being able to have your cake and eat it too. If you want top performance you have to manage memory yourself plus the abilitiy to access thousands of C libraries is not such a bad excuse for a compromise. The FFI is not a problem is a solution to many problems and people u

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc status

2017-10-22 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I agree with Markus on that one , I am really a “release first update later” kind of guy. Which of course means also that I am against the idea of having only 1 release per year for Pharo. The why has been explained in myriads of online blog posts because I am far from the only one to believe in th

Re: [Pharo-dev] UnifiedFFI Docs

2017-10-18 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Sure the documentation could be better, that is definetly important, but is already good enough and UFFI is a very technical subject much more suited to a mailing list . Its not physical possible to cover the massive potential of UFFI. On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 9:32 AM Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Pl

Re: [Pharo-dev] XPath chapter...

2017-10-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Dont worry Stef you are not alone, I may no longer use Pharo as much I used to but I will keep stalking you :D So I have not quit from adding to the pharo documentation. You can at least expect some video tutorials, minor updated to PBE and minor updates to Pharo Wiki. Of course I agree we need m

Re: [Pharo-dev] shameless request: please star pharo-project/pharo in GitHub :)

2017-10-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
done :) On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 5:00 PM Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > just to get better rating ;) > > Esteban > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call for Ruby, Python, Java, Javascript Guide to Pharo

2017-10-08 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Yes I know thats what I am saying , that I dont think its a good idea to learn like this a language. In any case I am adding the Python code snippets and leave the teaching to you. It will take some time but will get it done, no big deal. On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 5:20 PM Peter Uhnák wrote: > Comp

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call for Ruby, Python, Java, Javascript Guide to Pharo

2017-10-08 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Well we certainly have a different way of thinking, I cannot get emotional attached to languages to the level you are passionate about Pharo. To me it’s important to have a general idea of languages and their capabilities as this helps me improve as a coder because obviously each language has its

Re: [Pharo-dev] people on discord are asking were is the wiki to list projects?

2017-10-01 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/tree/master/wiki On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 at 08:36, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-dev] I disabled notifications from github

2017-08-31 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
There are websites that let you automate gmail. For example you could make a small task that when you received a email for the pharo repo with the words "pull" and "request" automatically you will forward the email to the mailing list. I have used IFFT https://ifttt.com/collections/google The l

Re: [Pharo-dev] Github notifications for pharo-project redirected to pharo-dev

2017-08-30 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
If you use gmail (not just you but any other pharo user reading this), gmail comes with a very flexible filter system that allow you to group emails. For example I have a special group for Pharo mailing lists mesages so they dont mix with my other forums and mailing lists I follow. Once you set it

Re: [Pharo-dev] poor state of fuel

2017-08-29 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I am a big fan of Fuel myself. It looks very well designed and is easy to use :) On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:45 PM Max Leske wrote: > And here’s the link to the issue, for completeness: > https://github.com/theseion/Fuel/issues/224 > > Max > > > > On 29 August 2017 at 16:09:06, Tim Mackinnon (tim

Re: [Pharo-dev] Esteban's ChangeLog week of 21 August 2017

2017-08-29 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Yeah I agree with Phil , VM bugs are kinda big deal. Plus we should not forget that the huge news for Pharo 6 was 64 bit support and there was ton of glory in that one. Pretty much in any language VM enhancement are kinda of big deal , especially stability and performance. Hey Esteban I hope you h

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann][Pillar] Travis -> Bintray for PDFs

2017-08-25 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
+100 :) On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 5:45 PM Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Hi > > with Damien Pollet, we went over all the booklets and some of the > Pharo books currently written in Pillar and made sure that each time > you commit > > - a travis job is run > - latex is produced as well as pdf > - the p

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] new chapter on double dispatch for new book :)

2017-08-23 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I read it once without knowing what double dispatch is, after reading it , I did not know what double dispatch is. It took several reads to understand what double dispatch is. My suggestion is starting with explaining as a summary what double dispatch is , instead of leaving it for the conclusion,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] PharmIDE is renamed to TelePharo and moved to github

2017-08-23 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
The usual bikeshed problem :) I use all crazy names for my projects , after all I laugh at people that complain about weird names using a language named after the greek word for lighthouse. But then weird names for programming languages seems to be mandatory in the computing world. And dont even

Re: [Pharo-dev] Catalog statistics (Who know this projects?)

2017-08-22 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Unfortunately making something beginner friendly is A LOT of work, its indeed super important but for most people, which is logical, getting the code to work first is the no 1 priority. Indeed as a beginner you dont see even 0.1% of Pharo capabilities. This is why I started a wiki to expose so

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lowering the pain of newbies

2017-08-21 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
its inconsistent to start using (set) in front of the name of methods and unnecessary className: makes more sense to me Another way to do this instead have something like classMetaData which can be a dictionary containing all the data like name of the class, method dictionary etc this way we ens

Re: [Pharo-dev] Github and Fogbugz integration

2017-08-19 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
ood why Joel is > considered a god), but it's ok, and it's served its purpose. I'd seriously > switching. > > I Tim > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 19 Aug 2017, at 21:40, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:32 PM Sean P. DeNigris

Re: [Pharo-dev] Github and Fogbugz integration

2017-08-19 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:32 PM Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > I see little reason not to allow both ways of reporting bugs. > It seems that the need to create an account in FB to even view/search > issues has been a big barrier to new(er) would-be contributors. I expect > this difficulty would be

Re: [Pharo-dev] Github and Fogbugz integration

2017-08-19 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Useless piece of info , I think I am the first person to actually create a github issue for Pharo. It was not for pharo code it was for pharo documentation https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample/issues/1 Since then not only UPBE but also other pharo doc github repos have

Re: [Pharo-dev] Github and Fogbugz integration

2017-08-19 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Well technically you cannot stop people from using the github issue tracker for reporting bugs and by default if you are a contributor to a repo you will be alerted via email of new issues or replies to existing github issues. Both github and forgbuz issue tracker can happily coexist. There will b

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-17 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
gets much much worse. But then it may be just me :) On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 5:50 PM Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:25 PM Esteban Lorenzano > wrote: > >> hi Dimitris (good to see you around ;) ), >> >> > Not going anywhere , just taking a break fro

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-17 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:25 PM Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > hi Dimitris (good to see you around ;) ), > > Not going anywhere , just taking a break from Pharo :) > thing is… we want to improve our tools. > > great > And improve tools sometime means to add stuff (I’m not very happy with it > eit

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-17 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Is it really necessary ? I am more a modular guy , I would love to get an image that 0.1% the size of the current one and offer me a convenient package manager to install the tools I like. I have used Pillar ALOT probably more than any other Pharo library because I was doing Pharo documentation s

Re: [Pharo-dev] @About posting here

2017-08-17 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Could not agree more with entirety of your post. Especially the part of the massive improvement of Pharo version 1 vs 6 are like and day. Documentation wise even Unreal with its massive community and one of the most profitable game companies pouring massive resources has many doc problems. In pe

Re: [Pharo-dev] @About posting here

2017-08-16 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
calling the system idiotic , you basically say that the people behind this are idiots. Problem is that you have not much proof to provide any basis for your arguments and thats plain rude. World.st forums works, I have used it a lot, before realising that mail was just more convenient for me. Fir

Re: [Pharo-dev] Simply Happy

2017-07-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Pharo is finally in a mature state. I would not recommend Pharo few years back because of severe lack of documentation and libraries and several other issues.I would definetly recommend it now to people who want to try something fresh and well designed. Documentation is in much better state, new li

Re: [Pharo-dev] remote development via VS Code

2017-06-08 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Thanks Eliot for the detailed explanation it makes a lot more sense now. I agree its very interesting. On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 6:46 PM Eliot Miranda wrote: > Hi Dimitris, > > > On Jun 8, 2017, at 3:01 AM, Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > > Can you be a bit more specific I

Re: [Pharo-dev] remote development via VS Code

2017-06-08 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
> > Le 8 juin 2017 10:17, "Dimitris Chloupis" a > écrit : > >> problem is when you try to use a generic ide or an ide made for another >> language is that you get a sub standard experience. For example pyDev is an >> Eclipse extension that allows one to use Ec

Re: [Pharo-dev] remote development via VS Code

2017-06-08 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
problem is when you try to use a generic ide or an ide made for another language is that you get a sub standard experience. For example pyDev is an Eclipse extension that allows one to use Eclipse which is a predominantly Java IDE for Python. I used that in the past now I use PyCharm a Python exclu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

2017-04-30 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
> And IMHO, electron should be killed!! It's really a bad bad idea. You have > like 10 single apps that run a full V8/node stack. Atom, Discord, > LightTable, Chrome itself...it's so RAM & CPU consuming. For me it is like > saying that a desktop application is pure front-end development. > best >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

2017-04-30 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Beyond the barrier of this being a huge vaporware effort, bare in mind that a large percentage of Browsers are implemented in C/C++ for performance reasons. In the cases of Firefox and Chrome its 50% in both cases that is made in C/C++. https://www.openhub.net/p/firefox https://www.openhub.net/p

Re: [Pharo-dev] IMPORTANT: iceberg home changed

2017-04-28 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
And here some info about the HOW TO (teams for Github are named "organisations") https://github.com/blog/674-introducing-organizations On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 6:07 PM Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Why not make a Pharo team , we already have one for the books which also > has a we

Re: [Pharo-dev] IMPORTANT: iceberg home changed

2017-04-28 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Why not make a Pharo team , we already have one for the books which also has a weird name "square bracker associates" , we should make a pharo team and put all the repos there so people can find them in one place On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:31 AM Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > > not really, but

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-21 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
pr 21, 2017 at 3:49 PM Stephan Eggermont wrote: > On 21/04/17 13:26, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:53 PM Ben Coman > > > <mailto:b...@openinworld.com>> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Dimitr

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-21 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:53 PM Ben Coman wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > > You know what amazes me about this discussion ? > > > > not one even bothered posting > > a single screenshot demonstration all these "problems&

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-21 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:52 PM Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote: > Then don't talk about democracy, because you weren't born at Ottoman > Empire nor Nazi occupation, and many of us actually were born and lived > under military dictatorship. > I am perplexed from your reply

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-21 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
< hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2017-04-21 5:10 GMT-03:00 Dimitris Chloupis : > >> Resistance is futile >> >> You know what amazes me about this discussion ? >> >> The one thing that I find amazing is that we have like 58 messages >> already , many of the

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-21 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
making your own theme and frankly its so easy. On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 11:10 AM Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Resistance is futile > > You know what amazes me about this discussion ? > > The one thing that I find amazing is that we have like 58 messages already > , many of them compl

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-21 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
unner hurts. > > > Other than that, so far it looks cool. > > cheers -ben > > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:19 AM, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: > > For the mooc we have normally an image: it is called Pharo 50. > > > > S. > > > > On Mon, A

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-17 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
ut it will provide a quick and dirty way to fetch and create documentation in image. On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 at 12:46, Mark Bestley wrote: > Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > > > --94eb2c190338e56e92054d34764f > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Wow guys se

Re: [Pharo-dev] Remove all Configurations in the Pharo 6 release?

2017-04-16 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
16/04/17 16:14, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > Just for the record the easiest way to load packages in the image the > > Package Browser relies solely on configurations . Is there a plan to > > migrate because as much I am vocal supporter of Pharo moving to git it > > wi

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-16 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
d you publish the blue theme as an autonomous package? > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > >> Me too, even my blue theme is nothing more than a customization of dark >> theme. Plus dark theme is based on darcula dark theme which is by far the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Remove all Configurations in the Pharo 6 release?

2017-04-16 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Just for the record the easiest way to load packages in the image the Package Browser relies solely on configurations . Is there a plan to migrate because as much I am vocal supporter of Pharo moving to git it will be a big lose if Package Browser is not ported . On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 at 09:55, Tudor

Re: [Pharo-dev] Epicea should ask before recovering

2017-04-16 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Me three Recover dialog is standard on all apps anyway On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 at 16:22, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2017-04-16 12:09 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnak : > >> Of course if I am the only person that uses images in such a way then I >> can just work around it myself. (because having endless lists

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-16 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Me too, even my blue theme is nothing more than a customization of dark theme. Plus dark theme is based on darcula dark theme which is by far the most popular dark theme out there. On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 at 14:27, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > clement esteban is using the dark theme since several years!

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-15 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Totally agree Phil even on the documentation front we are light years ahead of version 2. I think it will become a problem that Pharo improves to fast, but that's a blessing problem.kudos to the amazing work of Pharo devs . On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 at 21:32, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Bah, I made GTS

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-15 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Wow guys seriously it's a setting , not the end of the world . Completely agree with Cyril , I find white theme terrible and I never imagined making such a big fuss for a setting. You guys need to chill out. Lol at Phil , funny and true. On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 at 15:45, p...@highoctane.be wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-15 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Thats the illusion of people who complain , because they are so vocal , they think they are a majority when actually they are a small minority. I call this "The tyranny of noise". Its in our nature to focus on the noise and ignore the silence. I am a huge supporter of Dark Themes, they are friend

Re: [Pharo-dev] discord channel request

2017-04-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
+1 On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 9:50 PM Stephane Ducasse wrote: > About the mooc and the social barrier I agree. > We should make sure that shy people ask questions. > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Dimitris Chloupis > w

Re: [Pharo-dev] discord channel request

2017-04-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I forgot to add that yes Mee6 is hosted on its own server and I also created a Heroku account to host my own bot there. Heroku allows to host python apps (including web apps) for free and supports other languages too.

Re: [Pharo-dev] discord channel request

2017-04-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
"I like the idea. What is necessary to make it work? Can you describe a bit more in detail the use case and required infrastructure? Do we have any code I could reuse?" Hey there , Discord has a web API that can be found here https://discordapp.com/developers/docs/intro There are wrappers of the

Re: [Pharo-dev] discord channel request

2017-04-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
#welcome is not necessary there is already a bot in place that provides a welcome message and displays a command for help for newcomers #help is not necessary too, Discord has a search capability which could be potentially used from inside a Pharo image but again the question is who is going to do

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tired of losing messages after 10k. Can we re-discuss moving Slack community to Discord?

2017-04-07 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
That's the solution Unreal followed , they were on Slack , the shut it down and left a message. Moving to Discord is super easy and it literally takes a minute. We can leave an invite link to the closed Slack and that's it. There is no need to wait for a planatery alignment or GSOC. It's far more

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to listen for microsoft os windows messages (WM_MESSAGE's)?

2017-03-15 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
gt; > On 14 Mar 2017, at 13:37, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > > > There are other cross platform APIs e.g. wxWidgets and Gtk > > There used to be a version of squeak with wx bindings wxSqueak but the > code seems not to be on line now. > > > GTK is not a very good c

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to listen for microsoft os windows messages (WM_MESSAGE's)?

2017-03-14 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
> > There are other cross platform APIs e.g. wxWidgets and Gtk > > There used to be a version of squeak with wx bindings wxSqueak but the > code seems not to be on line now. > > GTK is not a very good choice, it works well on Linux but on MacOS and Windows has many issues and a lot less developers

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mini Pharo -> JavaScript translator?

2017-03-14 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
A potential solution would be Pharo -> Slang -> C -> Javascript Slang converts pharo code to C and Emacscripten converts C to Javascript. This approach also should produce minimal JS code but it wont be readable. This C to Js approach also has the advantage of being able to utilize webassembly and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Archive Page for Pharo TechTalks

2017-03-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I live to serve :D On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 2:40 PM Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > thanks @kilon, I will upload them to youtube and add to list/archive > > On 9 Mar 2017, at 13:07, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > I kept the first few talks in this repo > > https://gitlab.com/Kilon

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] What is the craziest bug you ever face

2017-03-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
For me it was when I was making the CPP library. CPP for those that do not know is a library I made that allows Pharo to control a C++ application. Its a very simple IPC bridge using shared memory mapped files. I was surprised how easy it was to make it from the C++ side Pharo side was a different

Re: [Pharo-dev] Archive Page for Pharo TechTalks

2017-03-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I kept the first few talks in this repo https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pharo-techtalks/tree/master I have mentioned it before but I mention it once again to remind people or maybe you want to add those to the website. Its easy to link directly to each audio file if you want. On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 1:1

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

2017-03-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:09 AM Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > No it is not a Spotter bug, Spotter uses multi threading very well. So > well you did not see it ;-) > > UI Monticello actions do indeed block the main UI thread, like almost all > other tool actions. That is not necessarily bad, you

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

2017-03-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
blem with http request blocking > the only thread that we have? > > Uko > > On 9 Mar 2017, at 08:23, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > I do not need to, the problem is obvious as the sun when one uses > Monticello which can easily freeze the image on a slow connection. Still &g

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

2017-03-08 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
hoctane.be wrote: > I see you are not teaching to people or running demos in a crowd with > Pharo. > > Otherwise, you would get the point I can tell you 100% > > Phil > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > > Frankly I fail to see the prob

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

2017-03-07 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Frankly I fail to see the problem, if a tool connects to the internet and does not have some sort of timeout or speed check then is the obligation of the tool to fix that and not of Pharo to offer an airplane mode. Its would make an already complex pharo environment even more complex. Not to exclud

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to listen for microsoft os windows messages (WM_MESSAGE's)?

2017-02-28 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
The first thing is to be very precise in what you want. I thought you wanted a window manager now you mention a full blow GUI API. Frankly if you want to ovehaul Pharo GUI API , personally I think hands down a Pharo QT project will be far more valuable. Windows may have an overwhelming market of

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to listen for windows messages?

2017-02-28 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
> How can I set up a windows message hook in Pharo? > Please keep in mind I'm very new to programming, but I work from home and > have lots of time to learn :-) > First of all Torsten gave you an excellent answer. If read it once, go reread it 10 times and bookmark it. Second of all I cannot answe

Re: [Pharo-dev] Seeking support: Vote for Jigyasa Grover for Red Hat International Women in Open Source Academic Awards 2017

2017-02-18 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I voted too , well done On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 at 21:14, Jigyasa Grover wrote: > Thanks a lot Brad ! > It'd be great if you could kindly urge others to vote for me as well. > Looking forward to the valuable support from all > > Best > Jigyasa Grover > > > > -- > View this message in context: >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slack, fragmentation and design information

2017-02-14 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
the fear of fragmentation. On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:07 PM Pierce Ng wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:51:23PM +0000, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > wiki. They end messy and very badly documented. Especially c2 is quite a > > mess, probably the worst wiki I have ever seen. > &

Re: [Pharo-dev] Project Mirrors: ConfigurationOf vs. BaselineOf

2017-02-13 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
§ On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:31 AM Sean P. DeNigris wrote: An increasing number of projects are hosted both on an mcz repo e.g. StHub, which loads via ConfigurationOf; and GitHub, which loads via a BaselineOf. Do we have an elegant (i.e. not requiring copy/pasting between the config and baseline)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slack, fragmentation and design information

2017-02-13 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
> It's not a problem, it's a dynamics thing. GitHub isn't the same, I > haven't seen big wikis hosted there for a long time. In the long run > Pareto appears, and only a fraction of the users create most of the > content, but it is still useful. > > There is a very good reason for this. The rise o

Re: [Pharo-dev] Working with critiques in Calypso

2017-02-13 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Indeed this is a very nice system browser Denis, well done , quite and improvement from Nautilus On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:56 PM Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > Hey Denis, this is super cool! I will take a look at that and try to > improve. (Sorry, the end of my PhD is approaching, so I don’t have much

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slack, fragmentation and design information

2017-02-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
l c2 wiki. > > Phil > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > > If you miss it so much we have something much better > > Github wikis, we never use > > Each of our books is hosted in a Github repo and each repo always comes > with its own

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slack, fragmentation and design information

2017-02-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
If you miss it so much we have something much better Github wikis, we never use Each of our books is hosted in a Github repo and each repo always comes with its own wiki using very simple markdown as everything else in Github You do not have content but only a snippet of code to offer ? No probl

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Slack, fragmentation and design information

2017-02-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
by 917 users > > Le 10/02/2017 à 12:29, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit : > > e) for personal reason all my favorite software (Blender, Unreal > > etc) is using it > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Slack, fragmentation and design information

2017-02-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I have been pushing for Discord because a) There is no need to host and maintain as Esteban said b) There a ton of communities already using it and its by far the second most mature chat client after Slack c) It has a very powerful Python API yes I know I know its no Pharo but still it mak

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 6 update catalog entries

2017-02-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Fair point, I will make the changes. Glad you find it useful, is there any new feature you want ? On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 at 18:05, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > kilon.alios wrote > > I see little reason to support individual pharo versions because I focus > > always on the latest version. > > I'm not s

Re: [Pharo-dev] How can I create a trivial "spinner" etc, to see if image is busy?

2017-02-05 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Fork can be used to avoid freezing issues unless of course they are caused by the VM. VM usually prefer to crash. I have used fork once to load a very glitchy package when StHub was misbeheaving. You do not need a spinner in this case because you can keep using the image. But if you want to find

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 6 update catalog entries

2017-02-05 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
The release what marked #common with the initial intention to make it compatible with Squeak too since it relies only on Morphic but I never actually bothered testing it, I have marked it #pharo now and it seems to install fine on my end. I see little reason to support individual pharo versions be

Re: [Pharo-dev] I am stuck ProfStef

2017-02-05 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Do not hit yourself too hard, this is why we are here to help you so we are glad you asked. Most people are afraid to ask questions. Also this mailing list is for discussing developing of Pharo , use the Pharo-Users mailing list which is for the users because its more active and you will get your

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 6 update catalog entries

2017-02-03 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
All my projects must be Pharo 6 ready because most of them were created inside Pharo 6 anyway. But thanks for the reminder . Time to make sure they work as expected. On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 at 15:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > On 3 Feb 2017, at 13:48, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > > On 03/02/2017 1

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

2017-01-30 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Also I think its fair that the guy that wrote the code to pick the name, its his baby afterall, whether he is paid for it or not. He earned that right. On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:06 PM Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Just for the record, the name does not matter > > As a matter of fact if

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

2017-01-30 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Just for the record, the name does not matter As a matter of fact if you want the name to really sell the library/ tools then the last thing you want is a name that makes any logical sense You have much better chance to catch attention with "Pink Elephant" than "Pharo Remote tools" or whatever i

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

2017-01-29 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Apostasis (Greek for distance) Background ( playing with words Playground and back end ) Parallax ( distance viewed from two point [eg eyes]) Apex ( tip of) Outpost (distant place) HyperOcean ( another Greek word for a thing that can cross oceans , oceans here being surfing the Internet) Telemachus

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